I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) - The Firearms Forum

armedandsafe · 08-17-2010, 08:58 PM

It is now looking like a hoax. Sorry, folks.

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ON CAPITOL HILL

70 avowed socialists in U.S. Congress
DSA lists members of the 111th session

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Posted: August 15, 2010
4:31 pm Eastern

© 2010 WorldNetDaily

In October 2009, the Democratic Socialists of America released in its newsletter a list of 70 members of the U.S. Congress who are members of the organization:

Co-Chairs

Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)
Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs

Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)
Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members

Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members

Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)
Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)
Hon. André Carson (IN-07)
Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
Hon. William "Lacy" Clay (MO-01)
Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)
Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)
Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)
Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17)
Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)
Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)
Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)
Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Hon. John Hall (NY-19)
Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)
Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)
Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)
Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)
Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)
Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)
Hon. George Miller (CA-07)
Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
Hon. John Olver (MA-01)
Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)
Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)
Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)
Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)
Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)
Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)
Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

If I had the time, I'd do the research to see how many are Dem and how many are not.

I did have to chuckle at how they sooooo carefully put "Hon." in front of each name.

Pops

jack404 · 08-17-2010, 09:35 PM

70 dem's on the list that was published ( NY Times did a review)

what percentage of your government is that ?

what do you think the tipping point of the US is ?

35% ?

30% ?

take a look at the EU nations

Holland Belgium Sweden

25%

UK 35%

France was already gone, a victim similar to Britain with its inherited colonial punishment

Colonial Migration.. and many migrants son's are in their parliament or beholding to migrants ..

Australia went over at just over the 25% point

but the UN here was ridiculous, you could read our laws 2 weeks before they where published here by watching The Bonn Groups discussions

the US had better hope for a 45% mark or better

cause if you go the way the socialists in the other nations have gone

you'll all be working till you die to pay off the welfare bill thats coming

and get set for new laws around mosque area's ( cant use car horns during call to prayer , cant buy booze nor drink any , a mosque moves in near a bar or such the bar will move in a year , not hold hands or kiss your Mrs near one etc etc etc )

you 'll get all those and much much more once you tip over ...

Marlin T · 08-17-2010, 09:47 PM

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Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)

Now you can see why my 2nd Amendment issues go ignored.
He sure didn't get my vote, but he carries a couple of big cities, therefore he is my Rep.

I also noticed that the only muslim is also a socialists. Figures huh?

armedandsafe · 08-17-2010, 11:06 PM

The difference between a Socialist and a muslim government is subtle. In Socialism, the government owns all property and jobs. In Islam, the government owns all the people.

Pops

OcelotZ3 · 08-17-2010, 11:44 PM

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70 dem's on the list that was published ( NY Times did a review)

Do you have a link to the NY Times review? I couldn't find it on their site.

The "source" that was quoted in the original article listing the names listed the Congressional Progressive Caucus as the source. I went there, and it appears that this "list" saying they are Democratic Socialist members is actually just the members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

I did further research and found a conservative web site where they mentioned that the socialist newsletter in question which supposedly released this "list", actually just had a shot of the CPC web page, which is a far cry from saying that those people were all members of the DSA.

From what I can tell, this list purportedly showing members of congress as also being members of the DSA is rubbish.

I'm willing to be proven wrong...

jack404 · 08-18-2010, 12:52 AM

the times link was to the socialists if that helps back after i find it ..

Terry_P · 08-18-2010, 07:00 AM

Can't be right they didn't have the moonbat from my district there, Carolyn Shea-Porter. She worships at the alter of Pelosi.

ofitg · 08-18-2010, 09:28 AM

This appears to be the October 2009 bulletin from the Democratic Socialists of America, naming those 70 congressmen -

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/D...merica-10-1-09

armedandsafe · 08-18-2010, 12:11 PM

Thanks for the link. That helps. You have to scroll down a page or two to find it.

Pops

hogger129 · 08-18-2010, 01:15 PM

Hmm... Tammy Baldwin won't be getting my vote next election. I don't know who the other Wisconsin person is.

hogger129 · 08-18-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by armedandsafe

The difference between a Socialist and a muslim government is subtle. In Socialism, the government owns all property and jobs. In Islam, the government owns all the people.

Pops

Isn't that communism where the government owns all the property? I thought socialism just meant there was some varying degree of government ownership of property? Where capitalism means no government ownership of any property.

ofitg · 08-18-2010, 02:05 PM

Somebody once said, "A Communist is just a Socialist who's in a hurry"

plowhorse · 08-18-2010, 03:55 PM

shocking how many are from CA

OcelotZ3 · 08-19-2010, 01:06 AM

This still appears to be a bogus list.

I went to the DSA page & found archives of all their newsletters. This did not appear in the 2009 newsletters. Plus, they date theirs different than the one that is on scribd.

Also, the newsletter seems to have pieces from the web pages of two different socialist organizations put together, the American Socialist Voter & the Democratic Socialists of America yet saying it's just from the DSA.

Finally, if all those members of congress were REALLY members of the DSA or ASV, you can be they would be posting that information all over their web page with links available from the home page.

I'm pretty sure that someone put this together just to rile some people up.

And, finally, the socialist group themselves even say it's a bunch of hooey:

http://www.americansocialistvoter.co...cofamerica.htm

Yup, it's total fiction.

wpage · 08-19-2010, 05:00 AM

Vote them out

ofitg · 08-19-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OcelotZ3

I'm pretty sure that someone put this together just to rile some people up.

I'm coming to the conclusion that OcelotZ3 is correct - you can find the DSA's publications archived on the DSA site -

http://www.dsausa.org/dl/index.html

The list of congressmen is not there, and the formats are different from the scribd page. This is starting to remind me of last month's reports that Mexican gangsters had crossed the border and captured two ranches near Laredo, TX.

dbrodin · 08-19-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OcelotZ3

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And, finally, the socialist group themselves even say it's a bunch of hooey:

http://www.americansocialistvoter.co...cofamerica.htm

Yup, it's total fiction.

They are just upset that their secret membership list was made public.

Trouble 45-70 · 08-19-2010, 03:33 PM

Scrubbing the net.

ofitg · 08-19-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trouble 45-70

Scrubbing the net.

It's possible.

It's also possible that the list is a hoax.

The WorldNet Daily article stated that the DSA published the list in their October 2009 newsletter. Does anybody have an original copy of that DSA newsletter?

Something else that bothers me - why didn't we hear about it months ago?

Terry_P · 08-20-2010, 08:40 AM

Is there anyone that doesn't think Obama is a socialist? I'd like to see that one poled.

Trouble 45-70 · 08-20-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry_P

Is there anyone that doesn't think Obama is a socialist? I'd like to see that one poled.

I don't think he is a Socialist. I think he is a Marxist if not a full fledged Communist.

ofitg · 08-20-2010, 09:41 AM

And regarding Congress, every one that voted for Obamacare is a de facto socialist. I don't need the DSA to tell me that.

obxned · 08-21-2010, 06:23 AM

Do any of you still need an explanation of the reason for the Second Amendement? Hint: it isn't about hunting, target shooting, or self-defense.

Trouble 45-70 · 08-21-2010, 11:20 AM

What oftig said.

K75RT · 08-21-2010, 06:21 PM

I remember when I applied for jobs in the past and the questions were "are you or have you ever been a member of the communist party" ...this is no longer on an application..
hmmm?

08-17-2010, 09:35 PM	#2
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: I wonder how many will deny this 70 dem's on the list that was published ( NY Times did a review) what percentage of your government is that ? what do you think the tipping point of the US is ? 35% ? 30% ? take a look at the EU nations Holland Belgium Sweden 25% UK 35% France was already gone, a victim similar to Britain with its inherited colonial punishment Colonial Migration.. and many migrants son's are in their parliament or beholding to migrants .. Australia went over at just over the 25% point but the UN here was ridiculous, you could read our laws 2 weeks before they where published here by watching The Bonn Groups discussions the US had better hope for a 45% mark or better cause if you go the way the socialists in the other nations have gone you'll all be working till you die to pay off the welfare bill thats coming and get set for new laws around mosque area's ( cant use car horns during call to prayer , cant buy booze nor drink any , a mosque moves in near a bar or such the bar will move in a year , not hold hands or kiss your Mrs near one etc etc etc ) you 'll get all those and much much more once you tip over ... Last edited by jack404; 08-17-2010 at 09:37 PM..

08-17-2010, 11:06 PM	#4
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: I wonder how many will deny this The difference between a Socialist and a muslim government is subtle. In Socialism, the government owns all property and jobs. In Islam, the government owns all the people. Pops

08-18-2010, 12:52 AM	#6
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: I wonder how many will deny this the times link was to the socialists if that helps back after i find it ..

08-18-2010, 07:00 AM	#7
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: I wonder how many will deny this Can't be right they didn't have the moonbat from my district there, Carolyn Shea-Porter. She worships at the alter of Pelosi. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

08-18-2010, 09:28 AM	#8
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: I wonder how many will deny this This appears to be the October 2009 bulletin from the Democratic Socialists of America, naming those 70 congressmen - http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/D...merica-10-1-09

08-18-2010, 12:11 PM	#9
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: I wonder how many will deny this Thanks for the link. That helps. You have to scroll down a page or two to find it. Pops

08-18-2010, 01:15 PM	#10
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: I wonder how many will deny this Hmm... Tammy Baldwin won't be getting my vote next election. I don't know who the other Wisconsin person is. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

08-18-2010, 02:05 PM	#12
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: I wonder how many will deny this Somebody once said, "A Communist is just a Socialist who's in a hurry"

08-18-2010, 03:55 PM	#13
plowhorse Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 22	Re: I wonder how many will deny this shocking how many are from CA

08-19-2010, 01:06 AM	#14
OcelotZ3 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 73	Re: I wonder how many will deny this This still appears to be a bogus list. I went to the DSA page & found archives of all their newsletters. This did not appear in the 2009 newsletters. Plus, they date theirs different than the one that is on scribd. Also, the newsletter seems to have pieces from the web pages of two different socialist organizations put together, the American Socialist Voter & the Democratic Socialists of America yet saying it's just from the DSA. Finally, if all those members of congress were REALLY members of the DSA or ASV, you can be they would be posting that information all over their web page with links available from the home page. I'm pretty sure that someone put this together just to rile some people up. And, finally, the socialist group themselves even say it's a bunch of hooey: http://www.americansocialistvoter.co...cofamerica.htm Yup, it's total fiction.

08-19-2010, 05:00 AM	#15
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: I wonder how many will deny this Vote them out __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W

08-19-2010, 03:33 PM	#18
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) Scrubbing the net. __________________ Psalm 12 verse 8: The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted.

08-20-2010, 08:40 AM	#20
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) Is there anyone that doesn't think Obama is a socialist? I'd like to see that one poled. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

08-20-2010, 09:41 AM	#22
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) And regarding Congress, every one that voted for Obamacare is a de facto socialist. I don't need the DSA to tell me that.

08-21-2010, 06:23 AM	#23
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) Do any of you still need an explanation of the reason for the Second Amendement? Hint: it isn't about hunting, target shooting, or self-defense. __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

08-21-2010, 11:20 AM	#24
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) What oftig said. __________________ Psalm 12 verse 8: The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted.

08-21-2010, 06:21 PM	#25
K75RT V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Litchfield County, CT Posts: 309	Re: I wonder how many will deny this (hoax?) I remember when I applied for jobs in the past and the questions were "are you or have you ever been a member of the communist party" ...this is no longer on an application.. hmmm? __________________ Political language. . . is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.