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Shizamus · 09-17-2003, 06:43 PM

Subject: Sitrep-Barkley Residence (Michigan)

CONDITION CRITICAL
Judge Richard May, Presiding Judge of the 90th District Court, denied the
Demand For Ex Parte Order submitted to him on Monday afternoon. The
Barkleys were faxed a copy of his Opinion & Order late this afternoon.
Judge May could have rescinded his order pending an appeal to the Circuit
Court, or issued a Stay Of Execution. He did neither. In fact his actions
have escalated the situation. This can only indicate his resolve to resort
to the use of force, and avoid allowing additional time to reach a peaceful
solution. The Appeal to the Circuit Court has been drawn up and is ready to
be submitted on the morning (9-17-03). Judge May has ordered that the
Barkleys submit a bond of $7,800.00 (fine) prior to his approval to have the
matter moved to the Circuit Court. The Barkleys do not have this kind of
money. Both Mr. Barkley and his wife, who is a co-defendant, are indigent
and disabled. The appeals will be filed with the Courts, the attorneys for
Bay Twp. and Charlevoix County Building & Zoning, as well as a copy given to
Sheriff Lassiter, first thing in the morning. Although these parties have
to accept the Appeal documents, they will probably not act on them because
of the inability of the Barkleys to pay the bond (fine). As I write, a
dedicated patriot is drawing up a motion to declare the Barkley's indigent,
and also a request to waive the bond and get an emergency hearing. We hope
to get these documents included with the Notice of Appeal in the A.M. By
his actions, Judge May has shown nothing but contempt for the lives and
well-being of the Barkley family and their children, as well as contempt for
the Constitution itself. He is ultimately responsible for what takes place
very shortly. It is all boiling down to "if you don't have lots of money"
you cannot appeal. The Chickenhawks have raised the ante, If nothing
positive occurs in the morning, their hand needs to be called.

STANLEY NOTE: I spoke with Lyle Barkley tonight. While unhappy with Judge
May's decision, he is still vowing to defend his property. I told him the Pact
would defend his position, regardless of what he decided. There are other
legal maneuvers to be tried in the Court but the hour is drawing to a close.
The Pact is at 690 members now after gaining some today, and losing one to
resignation, and one was removed as a provacatuer and disruptive influence.
There are more coming out of the woodwork as this gets closer. They have no
intention of coming on the trip to defend, so they are trying to disrupt. Still
have a few quiet sleepers but time will tell, as it always does. The only
damage is to that little old lightning rod, Rick Stanley, who is used to it.
Any member dealing with a Chuck Geshlider of Texas, be advised he is the ex-Pact
member relieved of his committment to the Pact, and the Pact has no recognition
of him, from this evening on. One less provacatuer to deal with. We welcome
all provacatuers to the Pact so that they may be exposed for the scum and
traitors that they are to America, the real America. We will delight in their
exposure. I will take personal pleasure in the exposures.

I understand from talking with Lyle tonight that two more militia's from
Michigan have committed to the defense of the Barkley property. One with weapons
and one without. I guess they are going to throw dirtclods at the sheriffs.
Just kidding folks. They will decide in their own time what is the proper
response to an attack upon the Barkleys. I believe per Lyle that these are a
southern Michigan group and an eastern Michigan group. No numbers have been
mentioned as to what they can bring to the Barkley table. I understand another
Militia group from Michigan is offering their services, the Michigan Wolverines
of Commander Clint Dare. No knowledge of acceptence by the Barkleys of their
offer made through a local newspaper as of today.

The Pact remains committed to the Barkley defense and remains on PRELIMINARY
ALERT for the Barkley Militia Alert.

09-18-2003, 06:57 AM

Shiz, I wrote the Barkleys 9/15 asking for them to elaborate in hopes to confirm/deny what's been posted here.

No Response!

Could this be a case of "Chicken Little vs Chicken Hawk?"

Not long ago, I shared some info of the seige on Rainbow Farm.

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/show...t=Rainbow+farm

These 2 men died for what they belived in, and "went down in a blaze of Glory?"

Murder or Suicide?

1952Sniper · 09-18-2003, 08:09 AM

I have been discussing this on another board with a member of the Mutual Defense Pact Militia. He is of the impression that Rick Stanley is a fruit loop and is looking for a shoot-out at all costs.

I had originally hoped that this case would be a good test of a citizen militia against a corrupt government entity, and would show that the people will not let injustices prevail. However, the more I learn about this, the more I come to realize that Rick Stanley is just wanting a standoff.

He is hoping for an armed conflict when all the legal channels have not been pursued. Mr. Barkley is in clear violation of zoning ordinances and permits. He doesn't have a legal leg to stand on here. IMHO Stanley is the one who should be labelled a "provacatuer". I just hope he doesn't end up costing someone their life.

Shizamus · 09-18-2003, 09:05 AM

Some of our politicians in Washington also
believe our Founding Fathers were fruit loops,
and provocateurs.

go to www.stanley2002.org

and draw your own conclusions.

1952Sniper · 09-18-2003, 09:25 AM

Very true, Shizamus. Good point.

I just think that the Founding Fathers had more reason to foment rebellion. Rick Stanley may have good intentions, but I think he's going way out of his way to cause trouble where it really doesn't need to go that far.

In other words, if we're going to have an armed standoff, let's do it where we have the moral high ground and we are right. This case of Mr. Barkley doesn't appear that way.

Marlin · 09-18-2003, 10:13 AM

Might this not be a comparison between - - - -

- - - - - - A rationally thinking radical, and - - - -

- - - - - - A nut???????

I agree: If there were good reason other than just fomenting trouble, it might be a different story.

09-17-2003, 06:43 PM	#1
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	Preliminary Militia Alert...Condition Critical Subject: Sitrep-Barkley Residence (Michigan) CONDITION CRITICAL Judge Richard May, Presiding Judge of the 90th District Court, denied the Demand For Ex Parte Order submitted to him on Monday afternoon. The Barkleys were faxed a copy of his Opinion & Order late this afternoon. Judge May could have rescinded his order pending an appeal to the Circuit Court, or issued a Stay Of Execution. He did neither. In fact his actions have escalated the situation. This can only indicate his resolve to resort to the use of force, and avoid allowing additional time to reach a peaceful solution. The Appeal to the Circuit Court has been drawn up and is ready to be submitted on the morning (9-17-03). Judge May has ordered that the Barkleys submit a bond of $7,800.00 (fine) prior to his approval to have the matter moved to the Circuit Court. The Barkleys do not have this kind of money. Both Mr. Barkley and his wife, who is a co-defendant, are indigent and disabled. The appeals will be filed with the Courts, the attorneys for Bay Twp. and Charlevoix County Building & Zoning, as well as a copy given to Sheriff Lassiter, first thing in the morning. Although these parties have to accept the Appeal documents, they will probably not act on them because of the inability of the Barkleys to pay the bond (fine). As I write, a dedicated patriot is drawing up a motion to declare the Barkley's indigent, and also a request to waive the bond and get an emergency hearing. We hope to get these documents included with the Notice of Appeal in the A.M. By his actions, Judge May has shown nothing but contempt for the lives and well-being of the Barkley family and their children, as well as contempt for the Constitution itself. He is ultimately responsible for what takes place very shortly. It is all boiling down to "if you don't have lots of money" you cannot appeal. The Chickenhawks have raised the ante, If nothing positive occurs in the morning, their hand needs to be called. STANLEY NOTE: I spoke with Lyle Barkley tonight. While unhappy with Judge May's decision, he is still vowing to defend his property. I told him the Pact would defend his position, regardless of what he decided. There are other legal maneuvers to be tried in the Court but the hour is drawing to a close. The Pact is at 690 members now after gaining some today, and losing one to resignation, and one was removed as a provacatuer and disruptive influence. There are more coming out of the woodwork as this gets closer. They have no intention of coming on the trip to defend, so they are trying to disrupt. Still have a few quiet sleepers but time will tell, as it always does. The only damage is to that little old lightning rod, Rick Stanley, who is used to it. Any member dealing with a Chuck Geshlider of Texas, be advised he is the ex-Pact member relieved of his committment to the Pact, and the Pact has no recognition of him, from this evening on. One less provacatuer to deal with. We welcome all provacatuers to the Pact so that they may be exposed for the scum and traitors that they are to America, the real America. We will delight in their exposure. I will take personal pleasure in the exposures. I understand from talking with Lyle tonight that two more militia's from Michigan have committed to the defense of the Barkley property. One with weapons and one without. I guess they are going to throw dirtclods at the sheriffs. Just kidding folks. They will decide in their own time what is the proper response to an attack upon the Barkleys. I believe per Lyle that these are a southern Michigan group and an eastern Michigan group. No numbers have been mentioned as to what they can bring to the Barkley table. I understand another Militia group from Michigan is offering their services, the Michigan Wolverines of Commander Clint Dare. No knowledge of acceptence by the Barkleys of their offer made through a local newspaper as of today. The Pact remains committed to the Barkley defense and remains on PRELIMINARY ALERT for the Barkley Militia Alert. __________________ “The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. When you are inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, the very minds we are trying to save. Until we do, these people are part of that system and that makes them our enemies. You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many are so hopelessly dependent on the system, they’ll fight to protect it. “The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.” - Morpheus, in the movie, “The Matrix” -->

09-18-2003, 09:05 AM	#4
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	Some of our politicians in Washington also believe our Founding Fathers were fruit loops, and provocateurs. go to www.stanley2002.org and draw your own conclusions. __________________ “The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. When you are inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, the very minds we are trying to save. Until we do, these people are part of that system and that makes them our enemies. You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many are so hopelessly dependent on the system, they’ll fight to protect it. “The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.” - Morpheus, in the movie, “The Matrix”

09-18-2003, 10:13 AM	#6
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Might this not be a comparison between - - - - - - - - - - A rationally thinking radical, and - - - - - - - - - - A nut??????? I agree: If there were good reason other than just fomenting trouble, it might be a different story. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

09-18-2003, 06:57 AM	#2
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Shiz, I wrote the Barkleys 9/15 asking for them to elaborate in hopes to confirm/deny what's been posted here. No Response! Could this be a case of "Chicken Little vs Chicken Hawk?" Not long ago, I shared some info of the seige on Rainbow Farm. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/show...t=Rainbow+farm *These* 2 men died for what they belived in, and "went down in a blaze of Glory?" Murder or Suicide?

09-18-2003, 08:09 AM	#3
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	I have been discussing this on another board with a member of the Mutual Defense Pact Militia. He is of the impression that Rick Stanley is a fruit loop and is looking for a shoot-out at all costs. I had originally hoped that this case would be a good test of a citizen militia against a corrupt government entity, and would show that the people will not let injustices prevail. However, the more I learn about this, the more I come to realize that Rick Stanley is just wanting a standoff. He is hoping for an armed conflict when all the legal channels have not been pursued. Mr. Barkley is in clear violation of zoning ordinances and permits. He doesn't have a legal leg to stand on here. IMHO Stanley is the one who should be labelled a "provacatuer". I just hope he doesn't end up costing someone their life.

09-18-2003, 09:25 AM	#5
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	Very true, Shizamus. Good point. I just think that the Founding Fathers had more reason to foment rebellion. Rick Stanley may have good intentions, but I think he's going way out of his way to cause trouble where it really doesn't need to go that far. In other words, if we're going to have an armed standoff, let's do it where we have the moral high ground and we are right. This case of Mr. Barkley doesn't appear that way.