Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster - The Firearms Forum

vlad0002 · 11-10-2009, 08:13 PM

Hello all,

Need to ask for your help, guys, again.

Came across an interesting, PPK with a brown holster. Mechanically, the gun is in superb condition, with, literally, as new bore. Unfortunately, looks like it was kept in a holster for years, so the outside has a "frost" -- a lot of fine pin-point pitting. I have posted the pictures. Bluing is still at ~ 90 %. Crown N proof. 7.65 caliber. The holster is quite worn, but in decent shape. I was able to partially read the stamp: 1942 Berlin, and a Nazi eagle w/ swastika. Tried to show it on the pictures, too. Serial is 885068. Grips have a hairline crack on one side. Magazine has Walther banner on it.

Any thoughts on history and value would be much appreciated, as usual.

Thanks.

Vlad

vlad0002 · 11-10-2009, 08:14 PM

Holster:

vlad0002 · 11-11-2009, 02:47 PM

Holster

RJay · 11-11-2009, 08:13 PM

Last use of the Crown N proof was in 1940. The serial numbers fall into the range of PPK's used by the Munich Police, but the gun should be marked P.D.M., Are there any other markings on the gun? If there are no other markings showing police or military acceptance then it is a commercial PPK. It may have been carried by some military personnel or police but with out markings it has to be treated as a commercial sale. It may even be a mismatched slide.

vlad0002 · 11-11-2009, 09:04 PM

Thanks, RJay.

I did not see any other markings, no. How can one tell if the slide is mismatched? I took the gun apart and did not see any serials on the slide. Where is it supposed to be? The slide looks it' own: the finish deterioration is very even between slide and the body. Slide is marked with crown N right under the similar mark on the barrel.

I was told the rig was brought from WWII by a veteran just as is, the holster and the gun. They want $400 for it. Is it a fair price? I have some coupons that 'll bring it to ~$320, too...

Thanks.

Vlad

RJay · 11-11-2009, 10:23 PM

With the holster it is worth 400, you could sell the holster alone for 50 to 75. It looks as if the gun and holster were picked up separately and then matched up. which would not be unusual at the end of the war. I was going to give you a valuation of 350 to 400 on the gun alone

We have a forum regular, Danny who is very well versed on the Walthers, perhaps he will chime in.

vlad0002 · 11-11-2009, 11:49 PM

Thanks, guys.

It's Cabelas' rig, so with $30 off $150+ they have going on right now + some Cabelas Bucks accumulated on my card, I can knock off a chunk.

Thanks again.

Vlad

vlad0002 · 11-12-2009, 02:34 PM

Hi guys,

Happy to report -- the slide matches. I took it apart again -- there is the last 3 numbers of the serial scratched on the inside of the slide.

I bought this gun. Thanks to all.

Vlad

Danny · 11-12-2009, 09:32 PM

Hello Vlad,
I am glad U got the pistol. Its not that bad of shape, except the grip will hurt it alot, as to replace it runs over 300 dollars. The holster is a police issue & does not match the firearm, so if it were mine I would sell the holster & try to find one that is of that time period, 1935. Hope this helps ya a little?
Kindest Regards
Danny

11-10-2009, 08:13 PM	#1
vlad0002 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 30	Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Hello all, Need to ask for your help, guys, again. Came across an interesting, PPK with a brown holster. Mechanically, the gun is in superb condition, with, literally, as new bore. Unfortunately, looks like it was kept in a holster for years, so the outside has a "frost" -- a lot of fine pin-point pitting. I have posted the pictures. Bluing is still at ~ 90 %. Crown N proof. 7.65 caliber. The holster is quite worn, but in decent shape. I was able to partially read the stamp: 1942 Berlin, and a Nazi eagle w/ swastika. Tried to show it on the pictures, too. Serial is 885068. Grips have a hairline crack on one side. Magazine has Walther banner on it. Any thoughts on history and value would be much appreciated, as usual. Thanks. Vlad Attached Images --> Last edited by vlad0002; 11-10-2009 at 10:44 PM..

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vlad0002 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 30	Re: Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Holster: Attached Images Last edited by vlad0002; 11-11-2009 at 02:46 PM..

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vlad0002 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 30	Re: Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Holster Attached Images

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RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Last use of the Crown N proof was in 1940. The serial numbers fall into the range of PPK's used by the Munich Police, but the gun should be marked P.D.M., Are there any other markings on the gun? If there are no other markings showing police or military acceptance then it is a commercial PPK. It may have been carried by some military personnel or police but with out markings it has to be treated as a commercial sale. It may even be a mismatched slide. __________________ RonJames Last edited by RJay; 11-11-2009 at 08:16 PM..

11-11-2009, 09:04 PM	#5
vlad0002 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 30	Re: Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Thanks, RJay. I did not see any other markings, no. How can one tell if the slide is mismatched? I took the gun apart and did not see any serials on the slide. Where is it supposed to be? The slide looks it' own: the finish deterioration is very even between slide and the body. Slide is marked with crown N right under the similar mark on the barrel. I was told the rig was brought from WWII by a veteran just as is, the holster and the gun. They want $400 for it. Is it a fair price? I have some coupons that 'll bring it to ~$320, too... Thanks. Vlad Last edited by vlad0002; 11-11-2009 at 09:27 PM..

11-11-2009, 10:23 PM	#6
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster With the holster it is worth 400, you could sell the holster alone for 50 to 75. It looks as if the gun and holster were picked up separately and then matched up. which would not be unusual at the end of the war. I was going to give you a valuation of 350 to 400 on the gun alone We have a forum regular, Danny who is very well versed on the Walthers, perhaps he will chime in. __________________ RonJames Last edited by RJay; 11-11-2009 at 10:26 PM..

11-11-2009, 11:49 PM	#7
vlad0002 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 30	Re: Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Thanks, guys. It's Cabelas' rig, so with $30 off $150+ they have going on right now + some Cabelas Bucks accumulated on my card, I can knock off a chunk. Thanks again. Vlad

11-12-2009, 02:34 PM	#8
vlad0002 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 30	Re: Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Hi guys, Happy to report -- the slide matches. I took it apart again -- there is the last 3 numbers of the serial scratched on the inside of the slide. I bought this gun. Thanks to all. Vlad

11-12-2009, 09:32 PM	#9
Danny Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Va Contributor Posts: 594	Re: Nazi Walther PPK w/ 1942 holster Hello Vlad, I am glad U got the pistol. Its not that bad of shape, except the grip will hurt it alot, as to replace it runs over 300 dollars. The holster is a police issue & does not match the firearm, so if it were mine I would sell the holster & try to find one that is of that time period, 1935. Hope this helps ya a little? Kindest Regards Danny __________________ THE GUN HAS PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN HISTORY. AN INVENTION WHICH HAS BEEN PRAISED & DENOUNCED...SERVED HERO & VILLAIN ALIKE...AND CARRIES WITH IT MORAL RESPONSIBILITY...TO UNDERSTAND THE GUN IS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HISTORY.