Sign of the times? - The Firearms Forum

armedandsafe · 04-14-2003, 10:46 PM

Look at this, boys and girls:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,84160,00.html

04-14-2003, 11:03 PM

It is nice to read good news for once

SouthernMoss · 04-14-2003, 11:27 PM

WTG, Mike Foster!

I take personal offense to any anti-gun activist who implies that I as a woman am somehow not competent enough to own and carry a handgun. I'm glad to know that many more women are joining the ranks of gun ownership.

Shizamus · 04-15-2003, 03:16 AM

Good news like that can also sidetrack people into thinking
all is OK and go back to sleep, in the mean time our born
again christian president is in favor of keeping the
unconstitutional gun ban law on the books. So let us not
get side tracked but keep an eye on our treasonous leaders
that are hellbent on taking our Freedom and Liberty . And make no mistake about it they are after your guns no matter what they say because they are liars. Seems like the majority were happy
when bush and ashcroft got in when it came to the gun issue
but all they are is wolves in sheeps clothing. Go and read
state dept doc. # 7277 on disarming this country that was
signed by Pres. Kennedy. Have any of you seen the statue
at the UN building of a gun with the barrel tied in a knot ?
Just stop and think a little on this one. I doubt that art is the
motive of the knotted barrel, at the UN ? The intent is very
clear, since doing away with firearms is also a UN agenda,
and the New World Order that daddy bush talked about on
"9-11-1991"
Of course all of the above is only my opinion, yours might be
different.

FREEDOM IN CHAINS, YOU "WILL" LOVE IT !

The best talk radio around : www.gcnlive.com

www.infowars.com
www.thepowerhour.com
www.gulfwarvets.com

04-15-2003, 06:41 AM

Shiz is right, we need to stay focused on the task ahead and support the pro-gun movement.

On a side note, delivery of thoughts and opinions is everything!

SouthernMoss · 04-15-2003, 08:16 AM

Don't worry, Shiz. Just because we celebrate a victory doesn't mean we think the battle's over.

ibtrukn · 04-15-2003, 11:11 AM

Shiz I can go along with some of your thought. What a boring world if everbody agreed on everthing. But tell me this, state of Connecticut jus passed a law making the burning of crosses illegal. Yet anyone can still burn an spit on an trample the Flag of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA. The cross burning is sanctimoniously put out as a "hate " crime" which I think it is.
The burning, spitting, trampling on our flag is not ? Which I KNOW it is! (my opinion)
PLease, please don't give me any of that "first amendment rights crap. Whats good for the goose......etc.

just the reflections of a "stoonod"

1952Sniper · 04-15-2003, 12:35 PM

I saw that the other day, IB. What a screwed up country we live in! I expect that cross-burning law to be struck down eventually by the US Supreme Court, if they have the gonads. They'll either have to strike it down or make flag-burning illegal. They can't have it both ways.

Shizamus · 04-15-2003, 01:38 PM

We have the best Demenocracy money can buy ! We have
idiots making unconstitutional laws at the state and federal
level daily, that's their job and they have to justify it by
cranking out unconstituional laws. I remember years back in Conn.
when they were debating the motorcycle helmets a politician
wanted to include in the bill that motorcycles also should have
safety belts, so much for idiots. But anytime someone does not
like something what are the first words out of their mouth ?
"THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW AGAINST THAT ".
The law against burning crosses is not any different than
seat belt law, motorcyle helmet law, zoning laws and all the
Unconstitutional Gun laws etc. etc. i could go on and on. All laws
are about control and the more laws that you break the more
money they make in fines, it is a money making business and
they all are incorporated.
And about spitting, burning and trampling the US flag you and
i might not like but it is the Freedom to have an opinion,
otherwise we would be turning this country into the USSA.
The key words are FREEDOM and LIBERTY, like i have said
before DO MORE LAWS GIVE YOU MORE FREEDOM ? If not then
why have them ? Our problems are with this so called Democracy
(demonocracy) or mobocracy where two wolves and a sheep
are deciding who is going to be lunch. Yet it is clear in the
Constitution for the United States in Article 4 section 4 that the
United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a
Republican Form of Government where EVERYONE'S rights are
protected, not like a democracy where 51% can take away the
God given rights of the other 49%. Democracies in past history
have always failed and have crumled of their own weight.
Our present democracy will also eventualy fail and implode
unless We The People do something about the Idiots that we
have given power of attorney to thru our votes to run our lives
as THEY see fit as if they are the authority on what is best for
us WE The People. Our Founding Fathers knew exactly what an
oppressive government could do to it's SUBJECTS. We need to go back and relearn history instead of letting these idiots
rewrite our history for their own personal gain.
By the way i am a little offended at the First Amendement right
being called "CRAP" and at the same time be concerned with
cross burning and spitting, burning,trampling of the flag.
Of course all of the above is only my opinion, your opinion
could be different.

DO MORE LAWS GIVE US MORE FREEDOM ?
IF NOT, THEN WHY ELECT THEM ?

Best real talk radio around : www.gcnlive.com

www.infowars.com
www.thepowerhour.com
www.gulfwarvets.com

ibtrukn · 04-15-2003, 07:45 PM

And it is. If things are so tuff here Y not try someplace else? I realize U will probably view this as a moronic statement, but thats MY opinion. And I think U fully understood my statement about the 1st amend. rights. U must have because we agreed on the cross-flag issue.

even a stoonod is allowed an opinion?

280freak · 04-15-2003, 09:35 PM

IB -

I just hasta ask ya - what the heck is a "stoonod"? Been wonderin' fer a while. Is it anything like a paison, or a gumbah, perhaps?

ibtrukn · 04-16-2003, 09:04 AM

280 jus ask one of yur paisons

280freak · 04-16-2003, 09:25 AM

IB -

I would, but I ain't got no paisons to ask; I'm just a rube out here in "flyover" land!

Shizamus · 04-16-2003, 02:05 PM

I think "stoonod" is Italian for stupid.
I could be wrong.

THE RESISTOR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES
AND UNDERSTANDS TYRANNY.

The powerhour radio show : www.thepowerhour.com

www.gulfwarvets.com

04-14-2003, 10:46 PM	#1
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Sign of the times? Look at this, boys and girls: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,84160,00.html -->

04-15-2003, 08:16 AM	#6
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Don't worry, Shiz. Just because we celebrate a victory doesn't mean we think the battle's over. Last edited by SouthernMoss; 04-15-2003 at 08:38 AM..

04-14-2003, 11:03 PM	#2
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	It is nice to read good news for once

04-14-2003, 11:27 PM	#3
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	WTG, Mike Foster! I take personal offense to any anti-gun activist who implies that I as a woman am somehow not competent enough to own and carry a handgun. I'm glad to know that many more women are joining the ranks of gun ownership.

04-15-2003, 03:16 AM	#4
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	Good news like that can also sidetrack people into thinking all is OK and go back to sleep, in the mean time our born again christian president is in favor of keeping the unconstitutional gun ban law on the books. So let us not get side tracked but keep an eye on our treasonous leaders that are hellbent on taking our Freedom and Liberty . And make no mistake about it they are after your guns no matter what they say because they are liars. Seems like the majority were happy when bush and ashcroft got in when it came to the gun issue but all they are is wolves in sheeps clothing. Go and read state dept doc. # 7277 on disarming this country that was signed by Pres. Kennedy. Have any of you seen the statue at the UN building of a gun with the barrel tied in a knot ? Just stop and think a little on this one. I doubt that art is the motive of the knotted barrel, at the UN ? The intent is very clear, since doing away with firearms is also a UN agenda, and the New World Order that daddy bush talked about on "9-11-1991" Of course all of the above is only my opinion, yours might be different. FREEDOM IN CHAINS, YOU "WILL" LOVE IT ! The best talk radio around : www.gcnlive.com www.infowars.com www.thepowerhour.com www.gulfwarvets.com

04-15-2003, 06:41 AM	#5
Zigzag2 Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	Shiz is right, we need to stay focused on the task ahead and support the pro-gun movement. On a side note, delivery of thoughts and opinions is everything!

04-15-2003, 11:11 AM	#7
ibtrukn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: central N.J. Posts: 4,335	Shiz I can go along with some of your thought. What a boring world if everbody agreed on everthing. But tell me this, state of Connecticut jus passed a law making the burning of crosses illegal. Yet anyone can still burn an spit on an trample the Flag of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA. The cross burning is sanctimoniously put out as a "hate " crime" which I think it is. The burning, spitting, trampling on our flag is not ? Which I KNOW it is! (my opinion) PLease, please don't give me any of that "first amendment rights crap. Whats good for the goose......etc. just the reflections of a "stoonod"

04-15-2003, 12:35 PM	#8
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	I saw that the other day, IB. What a screwed up country we live in! I expect that cross-burning law to be struck down eventually by the US Supreme Court, if they have the gonads. They'll either have to strike it down or make flag-burning illegal. They can't have it both ways.

04-15-2003, 01:38 PM	#9
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	We have the best Demenocracy money can buy ! We have idiots making unconstitutional laws at the state and federal level daily, that's their job and they have to justify it by cranking out unconstituional laws. I remember years back in Conn. when they were debating the motorcycle helmets a politician wanted to include in the bill that motorcycles also should have safety belts, so much for idiots. But anytime someone does not like something what are the first words out of their mouth ? "THERE OUGHT TO BE A LAW AGAINST THAT ". The law against burning crosses is not any different than seat belt law, motorcyle helmet law, zoning laws and all the Unconstitutional Gun laws etc. etc. i could go on and on. All laws are about control and the more laws that you break the more money they make in fines, it is a money making business and they all are incorporated. And about spitting, burning and trampling the US flag you and i might not like but it is the Freedom to have an opinion, otherwise we would be turning this country into the USSA. The key words are FREEDOM and LIBERTY, like i have said before DO MORE LAWS GIVE YOU MORE FREEDOM ? If not then why have them ? Our problems are with this so called Democracy (demonocracy) or mobocracy where two wolves and a sheep are deciding who is going to be lunch. Yet it is clear in the Constitution for the United States in Article 4 section 4 that the United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government where EVERYONE'S rights are protected, not like a democracy where 51% can take away the God given rights of the other 49%. Democracies in past history have always failed and have crumled of their own weight. Our present democracy will also eventualy fail and implode unless We The People do something about the Idiots that we have given power of attorney to thru our votes to run our lives as THEY see fit as if they are the authority on what is best for us WE The People. Our Founding Fathers knew exactly what an oppressive government could do to it's SUBJECTS. We need to go back and relearn history instead of letting these idiots rewrite our history for their own personal gain. By the way i am a little offended at the First Amendement right being called "CRAP" and at the same time be concerned with cross burning and spitting, burning,trampling of the flag. Of course all of the above is only my opinion, your opinion could be different. DO MORE LAWS GIVE US MORE FREEDOM ? IF NOT, THEN WHY ELECT THEM ? Best real talk radio around : www.gcnlive.com www.infowars.com www.thepowerhour.com www.gulfwarvets.com

04-15-2003, 07:45 PM	#10
ibtrukn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: central N.J. Posts: 4,335	And it is. If things are so tuff here Y not try someplace else? I realize U will probably view this as a moronic statement, but thats MY opinion. And I think U fully understood my statement about the 1st amend. rights. U must have because we agreed on the cross-flag issue. even a stoonod is allowed an opinion?

04-15-2003, 09:35 PM	#11
280freak Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sitting at my computer Posts: 1,581	IB - I just hasta ask ya - what the heck is a "stoonod"? Been wonderin' fer a while. Is it anything like a paison, or a gumbah, perhaps?

04-16-2003, 09:04 AM	#12
ibtrukn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: central N.J. Posts: 4,335	280 jus ask one of yur paisons

04-16-2003, 09:25 AM	#13
280freak Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sitting at my computer Posts: 1,581	IB - I would, but I ain't got no paisons to ask; I'm just a rube out here in "flyover" land!

04-16-2003, 02:05 PM	#14
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	I think "stoonod" is Italian for stupid. I could be wrong. THE RESISTOR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES AND UNDERSTANDS TYRANNY. The powerhour radio show : www.thepowerhour.com www.gulfwarvets.com