Rep. John Murtha (D) - The Firearms Forum

Popeye · 02-08-2010, 02:34 PM

It is being reported that he has died.

glocknut · 02-08-2010, 05:15 PM

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

His agenda was destructive to our freedom.....
Personally i am glad he is gone. I heard about it moments ago here at mcdonalds and i said "yes....Yes....YES!!!!" out loud with much enthuisiasm. Nobody gave me any guff about it either.....

Mike
Gn

millwright · 02-08-2010, 06:33 PM

My condolences to the Murtha family !! >MW

hogger129 · 02-08-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by glocknut

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

His agenda was destructive to our freedom.....
Personally i am glad he is gone. I heard about it moments ago here at mcdonalds and i said "yes....Yes....YES!!!!" out loud with much enthuisiasm. Nobody gave me any guff about it either.....

Mike
Gn

lol... the guy must've been a real prick. i've never heard of him

questor · 02-08-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hogger129

lol... the guy must've been a real prick. i've never heard of him

Yes he was a war vet and I salute him for that!

But he was a friggin crook! Probably the most corrupt scum-bags on the hill.

ABSCAM - He somehow dodged this bullet in the 1980's after he was caught on tape telling an undercover FBI agent he might want money for his district in exchange for legislative favors -- and he regularly appears on good-government groups' lists of the most corrupt members of Congress.

****

Recently offices of a defense contractor in his home district, which has received millions of dollars in earmarks at the request of earmark king Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) by the FBI and IRS.

It goes on and on.

He has now met his maker and is answering for stealing the peoples monies!

Terry_P · 02-08-2010, 07:47 PM

He was a real sweetheart. For his funeral they will have to screw him into the ground.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02...y6187525.shtml

HARRISBURG, Pa. (CBS/AP) As family and friends mourn the death of Rep. John Murtha, the tall, gruff mannered former Marine who became the de facto voice of veterans on Capitol Hill, some political watchdogs are recalling a darker episode in the Congressman's storied past – the Abscam scandal, in which the Pennsylvania lawmaker was caught in an awkward videotaped exchange that suggested he might eventually offer political concessions for cash.

In the 1970s and 80s, the FBI ran a wide sting operation to catch federal lawmakers who the government believed could be bought. The scheme, called Abscam, tried to catch government officials accepting bribes in return for political favors to a non-existent sheik.

Murtha was videotaped turning down a $50,000 bribe while holding out the possibility that he might take money in the future, according to the Associated Press.

Photo: John "Jack" Murtha Feb. 18, 1982.

"We do business for a while, maybe I'll be interested and maybe I won't," Murtha said on the tape.

Six congressmen and one senator were convicted in the case. Murtha was not charged, but the government named him as an unindicted co-conspirator and he testified against two other congressmen.

Murtha had more recent problems too. In 2008, the FBI raided the offices of PMA, a lobbying firm that had become one Murtha's biggest sources of campaign cash.

The firm specialized in obtaining earmarks for defense contractors, and with Murtha's help, got plenty of them.

In 2007 and 2008, Murtha and two fellow Democrats on the House Appropriations defense subcommittee directed $137 million to defense contractors who were paying PMA to get them government business. Between 1989 and 2009, Murtha collected more than $2.3 million in campaign contributions from PMA's lobbyists and corporate clients, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political money.

The House ethics committee investigated the link between PMA-related campaign contributions and earmarks, but it had not named a subcommittee to look into possible violations by individual lawmakers.

But despite taking political body blows for the Abscam scandal and later for his rabid defense of earmarks, Murtha was also deeply admired for his brave service as a Marine and his staunch criticism of the Iraq war.

"Ever since I was a young boy, I had two goals in life - I wanted to be a colonel in the Marine Corps and a member of Congress," Murtha wrote in his 2004 book, "From Vietnam to 9/11."

In the end, he did both.

The Pennsylvania Democrat died at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, Va., with his family at his bedside Monday. The 77-year-old had been suffering complications from gallbladder surgery.

Marlin T · 02-08-2010, 11:23 PM

Burn in hell Murtha, burn.

wpage · 02-09-2010, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marlin T

Burn in hell Murtha, burn.

Looks like another opportunity for the Republicans in Pa...

Another Dem down in flames.

larryg · 02-09-2010, 10:36 AM

No one has mentioned the "wonderful and busy" John Murtha airport that continuously gets lots of federal tax dollars for expansion and upgrade for there 3 flights per day

artabr · 02-09-2010, 01:07 PM

Found at the Washington Times comment section:

"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, one less socialist to make a fuss."

Art

wyoredot · 02-09-2010, 01:18 PM

Yeah, he's still a douchbag and just like the rest of his ilk, can burn in hell.

navis128 · 02-09-2010, 01:25 PM

Any inkling of "honor" he had left, dematerialized like an apparition when he threw his "brothers" under the bus...Slimebag!!

He lost the right to the title Marine...

John S Bryant · 02-09-2010, 01:53 PM

anybody got a 'spare' tear that I can shed for the loss of Murtha ?????

45nut · 02-09-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by John S Bryant

anybody got a 'spare' tear that I can shed for the loss of Murtha ?????

I'm all out, but Art or Pony might have one!

navis128 · 02-09-2010, 02:21 PM

Oh

, I recognize that

obxned · 02-09-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

It is being reported that he has died.

Is that true, or are you just trying to cheer me up??

Terry_P · 02-09-2010, 06:32 PM

He had gall bladder surgery and they cut into the intestine and apparently didn't know they did it. It somehow seems fitting that he was poisoned by his own ****.

red14 · 02-09-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry_P

He had gall bladder surgery and they cut into the intestine and apparently didn't know they did it. It somehow seems fitting that he was poisoned by his own ****.

That's government health care. Let's everyone try it.

Trouble 45-70 · 02-10-2010, 11:05 AM

Couldn't work up a give a da*n since he accused those Marines with murder and other crimes with out a trial and then used the power of his office to constantly bring pressure to convict them.

He kept it up even as they were acquitted one by one with some Judges saying the charges should never been brought in the first place.

I think there is still one more under the gun. Maybe Murthas' death will take the pressure off to get at least one of these guys. How many times has this guy been tried? Is this #3?

No apology, no offer to help defray the millions of dollars in legal bills to defend themselves. How are Enlisted men to ever come up with the wherewithal to pay for this.

Hats off to all those people in this country who came together to help and provide probono assistance to defend them against the full might of the Federal Govt. without whose help, their bills would have been so much larger.

This man was no different than the Muslim soldier who fragged his officers early in this war on terror. Good riddance.

There is a Reserve Officer who ran against him in the last election and came close even though he was deployed until late Aug. which gave him only a little over 2 mos. to campaign. He didn't like what Murtha did to those Marines. It would be great to see that Dem. replaced with a conservative Army officer.

red14 · 02-10-2010, 11:13 AM

We need to stop prosecuting, and pursecuting OUR people. Stop defending their people, and get down to killing their people. Stop this PC crap, and do as Jack says, exterminate the vermin.

They are not 'enemy combatants', they are terrorists, and should be treated as such.

sniperassist · 02-10-2010, 12:34 PM

Murtha was a POS...just because he was a Vet, that does not give him the right to stomp on the Military. He called our Marines murderers...and worse he always stood with the liberal jerk offs who always were looking for a chance to turn on our men & women in uniform. I for one am glad he this crook is gone...

wpage · 02-10-2010, 04:06 PM

Lets get someone decent to take his place

02-08-2010, 02:34 PM	#1
Popeye V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento area, CA Posts: 319	Rep. John Murtha (D) It is being reported that he has died. __________________ We, as a nation, have become fatified, lazified and stupefied. -->

02-08-2010, 05:15 PM	#2
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) GOOD!!!!!!!!!! His agenda was destructive to our freedom..... Personally i am glad he is gone. I heard about it moments ago here at mcdonalds and i said "yes....Yes....YES!!!!" out loud with much enthuisiasm. Nobody gave me any guff about it either..... Mike Gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

02-08-2010, 07:47 PM	#6
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) He was a real sweetheart. For his funeral they will have to screw him into the ground. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02...y6187525.shtml HARRISBURG, Pa. (CBS/AP) As family and friends mourn the death of Rep. John Murtha, the tall, gruff mannered former Marine who became the de facto voice of veterans on Capitol Hill, some political watchdogs are recalling a darker episode in the Congressman's storied past – the Abscam scandal, in which the Pennsylvania lawmaker was caught in an awkward videotaped exchange that suggested he might eventually offer political concessions for cash. In the 1970s and 80s, the FBI ran a wide sting operation to catch federal lawmakers who the government believed could be bought. The scheme, called Abscam, tried to catch government officials accepting bribes in return for political favors to a non-existent sheik. Murtha was videotaped turning down a $50,000 bribe while holding out the possibility that he might take money in the future, according to the Associated Press. Photo: John "Jack" Murtha Feb. 18, 1982. "We do business for a while, maybe I'll be interested and maybe I won't," Murtha said on the tape. Six congressmen and one senator were convicted in the case. Murtha was not charged, but the government named him as an unindicted co-conspirator and he testified against two other congressmen. Murtha had more recent problems too. In 2008, the FBI raided the offices of PMA, a lobbying firm that had become one Murtha's biggest sources of campaign cash. The firm specialized in obtaining earmarks for defense contractors, and with Murtha's help, got plenty of them. In 2007 and 2008, Murtha and two fellow Democrats on the House Appropriations defense subcommittee directed $137 million to defense contractors who were paying PMA to get them government business. Between 1989 and 2009, Murtha collected more than $2.3 million in campaign contributions from PMA's lobbyists and corporate clients, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political money. The House ethics committee investigated the link between PMA-related campaign contributions and earmarks, but it had not named a subcommittee to look into possible violations by individual lawmakers. But despite taking political body blows for the Abscam scandal and later for his rabid defense of earmarks, Murtha was also deeply admired for his brave service as a Marine and his staunch criticism of the Iraq war. "Ever since I was a young boy, I had two goals in life - I wanted to be a colonel in the Marine Corps and a member of Congress," Murtha wrote in his 2004 book, "From Vietnam to 9/11." In the end, he did both. The Pennsylvania Democrat died at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, Va., with his family at his bedside Monday. The 77-year-old had been suffering complications from gallbladder surgery. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

02-08-2010, 11:23 PM	#7
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Burn in hell Murtha, burn. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

02-09-2010, 10:36 AM	#9
larryg Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 39	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) No one has mentioned the "wonderful and busy" John Murtha airport that continuously gets lots of federal tax dollars for expansion and upgrade for there 3 flights per day

02-08-2010, 06:33 PM	#3
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,435	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) My condolences to the Murtha family !! >MW

02-09-2010, 01:07 PM	#10
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Found at the Washington Times comment section: "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, one less socialist to make a fuss." Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

02-09-2010, 01:18 PM	#11
wyoredot Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 553	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Yeah, he's still a douchbag and just like the rest of his ilk, can burn in hell.

02-09-2010, 01:25 PM	#12
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Any inkling of "honor" he had left, dematerialized like an apparition when he threw his "brothers" under the bus...Slimebag!! He lost the right to the title Marine... __________________ A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence

02-09-2010, 01:53 PM	#13
John S Bryant Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: N.J. Posts: 37	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) anybody got a 'spare' tear that I can shed for the loss of Murtha ????? __________________ Blessed are those who expect nothing....for they shall not be disappointed

02-09-2010, 02:21 PM	#15
navis128 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,392	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Oh , I recognize that __________________ A British general reported to London that the rebels, though untrained, had earned his respect: "Whoever looks upon them as an irregular mob will find himself much mistaken." "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." The Declaration of Independence

02-09-2010, 06:32 PM	#17
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) He had gall bladder surgery and they cut into the intestine and apparently didn't know they did it. It somehow seems fitting that he was poisoned by his own ****. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

02-10-2010, 11:05 AM	#19
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Couldn't work up a give a da*n since he accused those Marines with murder and other crimes with out a trial and then used the power of his office to constantly bring pressure to convict them. He kept it up even as they were acquitted one by one with some Judges saying the charges should never been brought in the first place. I think there is still one more under the gun. Maybe Murthas' death will take the pressure off to get at least one of these guys. How many times has this guy been tried? Is this #3? No apology, no offer to help defray the millions of dollars in legal bills to defend themselves. How are Enlisted men to ever come up with the wherewithal to pay for this. Hats off to all those people in this country who came together to help and provide probono assistance to defend them against the full might of the Federal Govt. without whose help, their bills would have been so much larger. This man was no different than the Muslim soldier who fragged his officers early in this war on terror. Good riddance. There is a Reserve Officer who ran against him in the last election and came close even though he was deployed until late Aug. which gave him only a little over 2 mos. to campaign. He didn't like what Murtha did to those Marines. It would be great to see that Dem. replaced with a conservative Army officer. __________________ Psalm 12 verse 8: The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted.

02-10-2010, 11:13 AM	#20
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,913	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) We need to stop prosecuting, and pursecuting OUR people. Stop defending their people, and get down to killing their people. Stop this PC crap, and do as Jack says, exterminate the vermin. They are not 'enemy combatants', they are terrorists, and should be treated as such. __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

02-10-2010, 12:34 PM	#21
sniperassist Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 19	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Murtha was a POS...just because he was a Vet, that does not give him the right to stomp on the Military. He called our Marines murderers...and worse he always stood with the liberal jerk offs who always were looking for a chance to turn on our men & women in uniform. I for one am glad he this crook is gone...

02-10-2010, 04:06 PM	#22
wpage Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,471	Re: Rep. John Murtha (D) Lets get someone decent to take his place __________________ "You shall recieve power" Acts 1:8 W