John Quincy Adams on Islam - The Firearms Forum

tireman7.62x54r · 03-02-2010, 05:13 PM

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (i.e., Muhammad), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy OF a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex , and the allowance of polygamy' and declared undistinguishing and exterminating war as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men."

JOHN QUINCY ADAMS

Marlin T · 03-02-2010, 06:01 PM

I thank you for posting this.

ampaterry · 03-03-2010, 07:39 AM

Great post, tireman -

I have verified this from several sources - it was printed in The American Annual Register for 1827,8&9

A few pages later, he said:

The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force

carver · 03-03-2010, 07:59 AM

Thank you guys, for posting this. I have already sent it on to several others. Now I have someone very important to quote on this subject!

03-02-2010, 05:13 PM	#1
tireman7.62x54r V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 149	John Quincy Adams on Islam "In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (i.e., Muhammad), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy OF a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex , and the allowance of polygamy' and declared undistinguishing and exterminating war as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men." JOHN QUINCY ADAMS -->

03-02-2010, 06:01 PM	#2
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03-03-2010, 07:39 AM	#3
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,277	Re: John Quincy Adams on Islam Great post, tireman - I have verified this from several sources - it was printed in The American Annual Register for 1827,8&9 A few pages later, he said: The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

03-03-2010, 07:59 AM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,236	Re: John Quincy Adams on Islam Thank you guys, for posting this. I have already sent it on to several others. Now I have someone very important to quote on this subject! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.