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358 winchester · 03-08-2009, 08:08 PM

http://capoliticalnews.com/blog_post/show/1448

Here is the entire story for those on dial up;

Obama Appointee Wants California Given to Mexico?
Written by CA Political News on March 06, 2009, 10:26 AM
Who's Thomas Saenz?

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY, 3/5/09

Civil Rights: The open-borders crowd eagerly awaits the nomination of one of its own to a key Justice Department post, a man who has dedicated his life to promoting illegal immigrant "rights."

President Obama is expected to appoint Thomas Saenz as the nation's top civil-rights enforcer. It's a key appointment because Obama has promised to "reinvigorate" the division Saenz will lead. And the Civil Rights Division carries a wide-ranging portfolio, covering everything from hate crimes and police misconduct to voting rights and redistricting laws.

All this power will likely be turned over to Saenz, who was a top lawyer for a radical Hispanic group that wants to cede California to Mexico. Saenz is credited with killing Proposition 187 in California against the wishes of 60% of voters. That law would have denied welfare to illegals.

At the time, Saenz was vice president of litigation for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, or MALDEF, whose co-founder has exulted: "California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don't like it, they should leave."

Saenz has also sued California cities to establish "hiring halls" for illegal day laborers so that they can have a place to urinate. In fact, protecting day laborers against "anti-immigrant" sweeps is one of his top priorities.

He has agitated for "a federal court decision which would settle (the issue) for all time," and now he may have his way. Loitering illegals may soon have total freedom to harass store customers and drink and relieve themselves in public.

He would also crack down on local law enforcement officials who help ICE deport illegals. When the LAPD tried such collaboration, Saenz demanded "punishing all wrongdoers."

In fact, the way Saenz sees it, no illegal alien should be rounded up.

"Currently in California, thousands and thousands of people live in fear because of widespread Border Patrol sweeps," he said. "It is critical that comprehensive immigration reform includes nondiscrimination against people on the basis of immigration status."

By reform he means amnesty. "At a certain point," he said, referring to the 20 million illegals in the U.S., "people have earned a right to stay here with their families."

In addition to amnesty, he wants to give them full access to government benefits, including Social Security. "We treat undocumented immigrants as a separate class from which we take and do not give," he complained.

Obama ran on a promise of uniting all Americans, not those who broke into the country illegally, and his selection of Saenz couldn't be more divisive.

And now, with Mexican drug-gang violence spilling across our borders, this certainly is no time to put an open-borders extremist in charge of policing police.

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NOW BEFORE I GET BANNED FROM HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just take a look at how fast and what is being done, the zebra isn't going to take any chances on being voted out in 2012 he going to declare his dictatorship sooner than y'all think. do what you want but me I am stocking up and getting ready in the words of Rev. Wright GD the President and his staff.

4EvrLearning · 03-08-2009, 08:29 PM

This is beyond outrageous. Does this man really have a viable chance of being nominated for this position, I wonder? Seems like an e-mail blast to the "prez" is in order, from EVERY state in the Union, not just CA residents.

358 winchester · 03-08-2009, 08:40 PM

Well let's see . . . . . (thinking) . . . . . . . . still thinking . . . . . .
Yep he has a dang good chance of being appointed and then we will have to change the flag to look something like this;

cycloneman · 03-08-2009, 09:09 PM

358 you missed

the zebra adds a stripe, should have been zebra takes a dump, on us

bcj1755 · 03-08-2009, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cycloneman

358 you missed

the zebra adds a stripe, should have been zebra takes a dump, on us

That's one way of putting it. Damn, Barry is a freakin' douchebag!!!

4EvrLearning · 03-08-2009, 10:26 PM

I found the following information from 10 days ago. It gives a little more info. on Saenz. I've only copied a portion of the article here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...503815_pf.html

The Washington Post

Diplomat to an Ever-Changing Region
By Al Kamen
Thursday, February 26, 2009

TWO MORE HIRES?

The president is said to have tapped two Hispanic officials for sub-Cabinet positions in his administration, and the White House is expected to announce their nominations if they clear the vetting process.

Thomas A. Saenz, counsel to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (D), is likely to head the civil rights division at the Justice Department, sources confirmed. The potential appointment was first reported by the Los Angeles Daily Journal.

At the Department of Housing and Urban Development, John D. Trasviña is believed to be Obama's pick for assistant secretary of fair housing, sources said. Trasviña, president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, served at Justice in the Clinton administration.

Trasviña is the president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) for which Saenz is legal counsel, as per the article 358winchester posted above!

glocknut · 03-09-2009, 12:16 AM

This is starting to resemble being on an elevator and the cable breaking...
Barry HAS TO BE the Devil... i am convinced of it!!!

mike
gn

RunningOnMT · 03-09-2009, 12:24 AM

Well, what else can you expect. We got this commie indonesian/tramp halfbreed that has no stake in the quality of life for the American people. He will do his best to give this country away to illegals and muslims because he has nothing but disdain for anything but minorities.

Oops...sorry my temper slipped.

1shot1k · 03-09-2009, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunningOnMT

Well, what else can you expect. We got this commie indonesian/tramp halfbreed that has no stake in the quality of life for the American people. He will do his best to give this country away to illegals and muslims because he has nothing but disdain for anything but minorities.

Oops...sorry my temper slipped.

+1

artabr · 03-09-2009, 02:55 AM

Nothing these idiots do will supprise me any more, not that it ever did.

Art

RunningOnMT · 03-09-2009, 09:12 AM

My apologies for my previous post. I shouldn't have stooped to denigrating the mans parentage. Besides his real father wasn't Indonesian, so my label was inaccurate.

45nut · 03-09-2009, 09:25 AM

His Daddy was Afreecun.... a freaking commie

I made a funny. Yeah it was a stretch, but I'm a Texan.

358 winchester · 03-09-2009, 09:38 AM

one picture is worth a thousand words SO

Terry_P · 03-09-2009, 10:06 AM

Is anyone surprised? The best we can now hope for is in 2010 to elect a congress that will oppose him so Pelosi and Obozo can't cause anymore damage. We need a Newt 1994 style revolution. If that won't work then lets look at the intent of the second amendment and take a lesson from our founding fathers.

SaddleSarge · 03-09-2009, 10:38 AM

Now they're talking about how the suckulus bill will help the illegals get 300k of the stimulated "jobs."

Calling an illegal imigrant an undocumented worker is like calling a dope dealer an unlicensed pharmicist.

45nut · 03-09-2009, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry_P

Is anyone surprised? The best we can now hope for is in 2010 to elect a congress that will oppose him so Pelosi and Obozo can't cause anymore damage. We need a Newt 1994 style revolution. If that won't work then lets look at the intent of the second amendment and take a lesson from our founding fathers.

+1

AL MOUNT · 03-09-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 358 winchester

Well let's see . . . . . (thinking) . . . . . . . . still thinking . . . . . .

I'll bet all that....... made yer head hurt...

358 winchester · 03-09-2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL MOUNT

I'll bet all that....... made yer head hurt...

STILL SORE

Mr. Nameless · 03-09-2009, 07:43 PM

stock up and bunker down, its gonna be a-h**l-o-a-ride, and california if we cant save you we will salute you

glocknut · 03-09-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry_P

We need a Newt 1994 style revolution. If that won't work then lets look at the intent of the second amendment and take a lesson from our founding fathers.

Bingo!

mike
gn

03-08-2009, 08:08 PM	#1
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	the zebra adds a stripe http://capoliticalnews.com/blog_post/show/1448 Here is the entire story for those on dial up; Obama Appointee Wants California Given to Mexico? Written by CA Political News on March 06, 2009, 10:26 AM Who's Thomas Saenz? By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY, 3/5/09 Civil Rights: The open-borders crowd eagerly awaits the nomination of one of its own to a key Justice Department post, a man who has dedicated his life to promoting illegal immigrant "rights." President Obama is expected to appoint Thomas Saenz as the nation's top civil-rights enforcer. It's a key appointment because Obama has promised to "reinvigorate" the division Saenz will lead. And the Civil Rights Division carries a wide-ranging portfolio, covering everything from hate crimes and police misconduct to voting rights and redistricting laws. All this power will likely be turned over to Saenz, who was a top lawyer for a radical Hispanic group that wants to cede California to Mexico. Saenz is credited with killing Proposition 187 in California against the wishes of 60% of voters. That law would have denied welfare to illegals. At the time, Saenz was vice president of litigation for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, or MALDEF, whose co-founder has exulted: "California is going to be a Mexican state, we are going to control all the institutions. If people don't like it, they should leave." Saenz has also sued California cities to establish "hiring halls" for illegal day laborers so that they can have a place to urinate. In fact, protecting day laborers against "anti-immigrant" sweeps is one of his top priorities. He has agitated for "a federal court decision which would settle (the issue) for all time," and now he may have his way. Loitering illegals may soon have total freedom to harass store customers and drink and relieve themselves in public. He would also crack down on local law enforcement officials who help ICE deport illegals. When the LAPD tried such collaboration, Saenz demanded "punishing all wrongdoers." In fact, the way Saenz sees it, no illegal alien should be rounded up. "Currently in California, thousands and thousands of people live in fear because of widespread Border Patrol sweeps," he said. "It is critical that comprehensive immigration reform includes nondiscrimination against people on the basis of immigration status." By reform he means amnesty. "At a certain point," he said, referring to the 20 million illegals in the U.S., "people have earned a right to stay here with their families." In addition to amnesty, he wants to give them full access to government benefits, including Social Security. "We treat undocumented immigrants as a separate class from which we take and do not give," he complained. Obama ran on a promise of uniting all Americans, not those who broke into the country illegally, and his selection of Saenz couldn't be more divisive. And now, with Mexican drug-gang violence spilling across our borders, this certainly is no time to put an open-borders extremist in charge of policing police. ___________________________________________________ NOW BEFORE I GET BANNED FROM HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just take a look at how fast and what is being done, the zebra isn't going to take any chances on being voted out in 2012 he going to declare his dictatorship sooner than y'all think. do what you want but me I am stocking up and getting ready in the words of Rev. Wright GD the President and his staff. __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand? -->

03-08-2009, 08:29 PM	#2
4EvrLearning Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Left Coast Posts: 1,449	Re: the zebra adds a stripe This is beyond outrageous. Does this man really have a viable chance of being nominated for this position, I wonder? Seems like an e-mail blast to the "prez" is in order, from EVERY state in the Union, not just CA residents. __________________ *"Until God is finished with me, I am immortal." Jonathan Edwards, American Theologian (1703-1758)*

03-08-2009, 08:40 PM	#3
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: the zebra adds a stripe Well let's see . . . . . (thinking) . . . . . . . . still thinking . . . . . . Yep he has a dang good chance of being appointed and then we will have to change the flag to look something like this; __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

03-08-2009, 09:09 PM	#4
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,406	Re: the zebra adds a stripe 358 you missed the zebra adds a stripe, should have been zebra takes a dump, on us __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

03-08-2009, 10:26 PM	#6
4EvrLearning Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Left Coast Posts: 1,449	Re: the zebra adds a stripe I found the following information from 10 days ago. It gives a little more info. on Saenz. I've only copied a portion of the article here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...503815_pf.html The Washington Post Diplomat to an Ever-Changing Region By Al Kamen Thursday, February 26, 2009 TWO MORE HIRES? The president is said to have tapped two Hispanic officials for sub-Cabinet positions in his administration, and the White House is expected to announce their nominations if they clear the vetting process. Thomas A. Saenz, counsel to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (D), is likely to head the civil rights division at the Justice Department, sources confirmed. The potential appointment was first reported by the Los Angeles Daily Journal. At the Department of Housing and Urban Development, John D. Trasviña is believed to be Obama's pick for assistant secretary of fair housing, sources said. Trasviña, president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, served at Justice in the Clinton administration. Trasviña is the president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) for which Saenz is legal counsel, as per the article 358winchester posted above! __________________ *"Until God is finished with me, I am immortal." Jonathan Edwards, American Theologian (1703-1758)* Last edited by 4EvrLearning; 03-08-2009 at 10:32 PM..

03-09-2009, 12:16 AM	#7
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: the zebra adds a stripe This is starting to resemble being on an elevator and the cable breaking... Barry HAS TO BE the Devil... i am convinced of it!!! mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

03-09-2009, 12:24 AM	#8
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: the zebra adds a stripe Well, what else can you expect. We got this commie indonesian/tramp halfbreed that has no stake in the quality of life for the American people. He will do his best to give this country away to illegals and muslims because he has nothing but disdain for anything but minorities. Oops...sorry my temper slipped. Last edited by RunningOnMT; 03-09-2009 at 12:26 AM..

03-09-2009, 02:55 AM	#10
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: the zebra adds a stripe Nothing these idiots do will supprise me any more, not that it ever did. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

03-09-2009, 09:12 AM	#11
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: the zebra adds a stripe My apologies for my previous post. I shouldn't have stooped to denigrating the mans parentage. Besides his real father wasn't Indonesian, so my label was inaccurate.

03-09-2009, 09:25 AM	#12
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: the zebra adds a stripe His Daddy was Afreecun.... a freaking commie I made a funny. Yeah it was a stretch, but I'm a Texan. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

03-09-2009, 09:38 AM	#13
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: the zebra adds a stripe one picture is worth a thousand words SO __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

03-09-2009, 10:06 AM	#14
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: the zebra adds a stripe Is anyone surprised? The best we can now hope for is in 2010 to elect a congress that will oppose him so Pelosi and Obozo can't cause anymore damage. We need a Newt 1994 style revolution. If that won't work then lets look at the intent of the second amendment and take a lesson from our founding fathers. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

03-09-2009, 10:38 AM	#15
SaddleSarge Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,025	Re: the zebra adds a stripe Now they're talking about how the suckulus bill will help the illegals get 300k of the stimulated "jobs." Calling an illegal imigrant an undocumented worker is like calling a dope dealer an unlicensed pharmicist.

03-09-2009, 07:43 PM	#19
Mr. Nameless Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coast of N.C. Posts: 1,264	Re: the zebra adds a stripe stock up and bunker down, its gonna be a-hl-o-a-ride, and california if we cant save you we will salute you __________________ Signed ~BMP Two classifications of terrorist** dead and not dead enough