Ron Paul on assasination - The Firearms Forum

keepitlow · 02-27-2010, 08:51 PM

http://www.doomers.us/forum2/index.p...c,62964.0.html

cycloneman · 02-27-2010, 09:43 PM

What aaaaaahhhhh is this about? Is this for real?

cycloneman · 02-27-2010, 09:54 PM

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/20...rican-citizens

mcw120566 · 02-28-2010, 06:54 AM

Guess we had all better fill out the Census form, otherwise who knows..........

ponycar17 · 02-28-2010, 07:05 AM

So, let me get this straight. We're reading Miranda Rights to known terrorists in the freaking battlefield and then giving them US Civilian trials but we're allowing the ability to order 'hits' on US citizens? Gee, that doesn't sound like a Chicago politician, does it?

What the hell is wrong with this picture, and why hasn't someone in the media pounced on this?!?!?!...

cycloneman · 02-28-2010, 08:40 AM

Somebody needs to get this to RUSH, WILKOW, LAURA. I dont belong to any of their forums but if someone here does please get it out.

yea it is crazy. So if you follow the logic when are you supost to read them the maranda rights before or after you kill them.

You have to also remember homeland security calls the founding fathers the original terrorist. What does that make us?

cycloneman · 03-01-2010, 09:56 AM

i have posted this on two other forums and cant believe just how people are staying away from this one with a 10 foot pole.

Haligan · 03-01-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

i have posted this on two other forums and cant believe just how people are staying away from this one with a 10 foot pole.

Just because people don't comment on this doesn't mean alot are not reading and monitoring this.

I read and watch everything. Then I make up my own mind.
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45nut · 03-01-2010, 03:31 PM

Just what gives them the right to assassinate US citizens? Was it an Executive Order or something out of the so called Patriot Act? Or did Eric Holder write some new laws?

Splain Lucy, I missed something

Haligan · 03-02-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 45nut

Just what gives them the right to assassinate US citizens? Was it an Executive Order or something out of the so called Patriot Act? Or did Eric Holder write some new laws?

Splain Lucy, I missed something

TEE RAAA NEEEEE

What part don't you understand. They don't need no stinking laws.

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Marlin T · 03-02-2010, 06:37 PM

NO U.S. CITIZENS ON CIA HIT LISTS

It is useful to be reminded from time to time that not every allegation or published report concerning Central Intelligence Agency operations is necessarily true.

A front-page story in the Washington Post on January 27 included the remarkable statement that "Both the CIA and the JSOC [Joint Special Operations Command of the Department of Defense] maintain lists of individuals... whom they seek to kill or capture. The JSOC list includes three Americans, including [Islamist cleric Anwar al-] Aulaqi, whose name was added late last year. As of several months ago, the CIA list included three U.S. citizens, and an intelligence official said that Aulaqi's name has now been added."

But at least the part about the CIA list turns out to be unfounded.

"The article referred incorrectly to the presence of U.S. citizens on a CIA list of people the agency seeks to kill or capture," the Washington Post said in a correction published in the February 12 edition. "After The Post's report was published, a source said that a statement the source made about the CIA list was misunderstood. Additional reporting produced no independent confirmation of the original report, and a CIA spokesman said that The Post's account of the list was incorrect. The military's Joint Special Operations Command maintains a target list that includes several Americans. In recent weeks, U.S. officials have said that the government is prepared to kill U.S. citizens who are believed to be involved in terrorist activities that threaten Americans."

The correction has been appended to the online version of the article.

On February 3, Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair testified to his view that U.S. government agencies may use lethal force against U.S. citizens who are involved in terrorist activities. "We don't target people for free speech," he said. "We target them for taking action that threatens Americans."

"I'm actually a little bit surprised you went this far in open session," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) at the hearing of the House Intelligence Committee.

"The reason I went this far in open session," replied DNI Blair, "is I just don't want other Americans who are watching to think that we are careless about endangering -- in fact, we're not careless about endangering lives at all, but we especially are not careless about endangering American lives as we try to carry out the policies to protect most of the country. And I think we ought to go into details in closed session."

_______________________________________________
Secrecy News is written by Steven Aftergood and published by the Federation of American Scientists.

Agentwil · 03-02-2010, 11:55 PM

I believe it was taken out of context to create a conspiracy theory.

Other examples:

You have to also remember homeland security calls the founding fathers the original terrorist. What does that make us?

Guess we had all better fill out the Census form, otherwise who knows..........

Just what gives them the right to assassinate US citizens? Was it an Executive Order or something out of the so called Patriot Act? Or did Eric Holder write some new laws?

Homeland never said nor believes the founding fathers are terrorists. This was said by Pelosi. The Patriot Act has all but ended. My question to you is how exactly has the Patriot Act affected your rights? As a proud founding member of the Department of Homeland Security I took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States. Not just part of it, ALL OF IT! What is being said is if US Citizen Jihadists are encountered on the battle field, should they be dealt with as criminals or combatants? This was brought to the attention of US attorneys after a US Citizen was encountered fighting alongside Afghan Taliban. He was wounded and taken prisoner. The question is does he deserve a US trial or should he be treated as an insurgent? The Ron speech isn’t based on fact but perceived behavior by President Bush.

cycloneman · 03-03-2010, 06:16 AM

I had it wrong it was a fema guy who called the founding fathers the original terrorist.

As far as other things go I will never trust my gooberment. They lie period!

I can't understand giving maranda rights to some and killing others. Doesn't add up never will.

Oh this was a mistake, OK you mean a mistake to have leaked this out.

They are just so trust worthy. You know "this is not a time for profit", but dont tell that to George Soros, or Michelle, or the nobel prize winner for doing nothing. Or how does that health care package feel going down your throat?

Now where did I put my tin foil hat.

Agentwil · 03-03-2010, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cycloneman

I had it wrong it was a fema guy who called the founding fathers the original terrorist.

As far as other things go I will never trust my gooberment. They lie period!

I can't understand giving maranda rights to some and killing others. Doesn't add up never will.

Oh this was a mistake, OK you mean a mistake to have leaked this out.

They are just so trust worthy. You know "this is not a time for profit", but dont tell that to George Soros, or Michelle, or the nobel prize winner for doing nothing. Or how does that health care package feel going down your throat?

Now where did I put my tin foil hat.

You have the right to have any opinion that you want and feel anyway that you want. I work for the government and do I think it’s perfect…no but it’s the best system out of all the rest.
I can't understand giving Miranda rights to some and killing others. Doesn't add up never will.
I agree it doesn’t have a place on the battlefield or with our military. I can’t believe our soldiers have to run everything through JAG to get a firing solution.

I hide my tin foil hat under my baseball cap so my coworkers don't make fun of me.

02-27-2010, 08:51 PM	#1
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02-27-2010, 09:54 PM	#3
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02-28-2010, 06:54 AM	#4
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02-28-2010, 07:05 AM	#5
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: Ron Paul on assasination So, let me get this straight. We're reading Miranda Rights to known terrorists in the freaking battlefield and then giving them US Civilian trials but we're allowing the ability to order 'hits' on US citizens? Gee, that doesn't sound like a Chicago politician, does it? What the hell is wrong with this picture, and why hasn't someone in the media pounced on this?!?!?!... __________________ Arm yourself with intellectual Ammunition! Gunfacts 5.1 Myth-Busting Facts JustFacts.com on Gun Control Stopping Power, the Downloadable Book

02-28-2010, 08:40 AM	#6
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,406	Re: Ron Paul on assasination Somebody needs to get this to RUSH, WILKOW, LAURA. I dont belong to any of their forums but if someone here does please get it out. yea it is crazy. So if you follow the logic when are you supost to read them the maranda rights before or after you kill them. You have to also remember homeland security calls the founding fathers the original terrorist. What does that make us? __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

03-01-2010, 09:56 AM	#7
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,406	Re: Ron Paul on assasination i have posted this on two other forums and cant believe just how people are staying away from this one with a 10 foot pole. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

03-01-2010, 03:31 PM	#9
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: Ron Paul on assasination Just what gives them the right to assassinate US citizens? Was it an Executive Order or something out of the so called Patriot Act? Or did Eric Holder write some new laws? Splain Lucy, I missed something __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

03-02-2010, 06:37 PM	#11
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: Ron Paul on assasination NO U.S. CITIZENS ON CIA HIT LISTS It is useful to be reminded from time to time that not every allegation or published report concerning Central Intelligence Agency operations is necessarily true. A front-page story in the Washington Post on January 27 included the remarkable statement that "Both the CIA and the JSOC [Joint Special Operations Command of the Department of Defense] maintain lists of individuals... whom they seek to kill or capture. The JSOC list includes three Americans, including [Islamist cleric Anwar al-] Aulaqi, whose name was added late last year. As of several months ago, the CIA list included three U.S. citizens, and an intelligence official said that Aulaqi's name has now been added." But at least the part about the CIA list turns out to be unfounded. "The article referred incorrectly to the presence of U.S. citizens on a CIA list of people the agency seeks to kill or capture," the Washington Post said in a correction published in the February 12 edition. "After The Post's report was published, a source said that a statement the source made about the CIA list was misunderstood. Additional reporting produced no independent confirmation of the original report, and a CIA spokesman said that The Post's account of the list was incorrect. The military's Joint Special Operations Command maintains a target list that includes several Americans. In recent weeks, U.S. officials have said that the government is prepared to kill U.S. citizens who are believed to be involved in terrorist activities that threaten Americans." The correction has been appended to the online version of the article. On February 3, Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair testified to his view that U.S. government agencies may use lethal force against U.S. citizens who are involved in terrorist activities. "We don't target people for free speech," he said. "We target them for taking action that threatens Americans." "I'm actually a little bit surprised you went this far in open session," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) at the hearing of the House Intelligence Committee. "The reason I went this far in open session," replied DNI Blair, "is I just don't want other Americans who are watching to think that we are careless about endangering -- in fact, we're not careless about endangering lives at all, but we especially are not careless about endangering American lives as we try to carry out the policies to protect most of the country. And I think we ought to go into details in closed session." _______________________________________________ Secrecy News is written by Steven Aftergood and published by the Federation of American Scientists. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

03-02-2010, 11:55 PM	#12
Agentwil V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 264	Re: Ron Paul on assasination I believe it was taken out of context to create a conspiracy theory. Other examples: You have to also remember homeland security calls the founding fathers the original terrorist. What does that make us? Guess we had all better fill out the Census form, otherwise who knows.......... Just what gives them the right to assassinate US citizens? Was it an Executive Order or something out of the so called Patriot Act? Or did Eric Holder write some new laws? Homeland never said nor believes the founding fathers are terrorists. This was said by Pelosi. The Patriot Act has all but ended. My question to you is how exactly has the Patriot Act affected your rights? As a proud founding member of the Department of Homeland Security I took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States. Not just part of it, ALL OF IT! What is being said is if US Citizen Jihadists are encountered on the battle field, should they be dealt with as criminals or combatants? This was brought to the attention of US attorneys after a US Citizen was encountered fighting alongside Afghan Taliban. He was wounded and taken prisoner. The question is does he deserve a US trial or should he be treated as an insurgent? The Ron speech isn’t based on fact but perceived behavior by President Bush. Last edited by Agentwil; 03-03-2010 at 12:12 AM..

03-03-2010, 06:16 AM	#13
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,406	Re: Ron Paul on assasination I had it wrong it was a fema guy who called the founding fathers the original terrorist. As far as other things go I will never trust my gooberment. They lie period! I can't understand giving maranda rights to some and killing others. Doesn't add up never will. Oh this was a mistake, OK you mean a mistake to have leaked this out. They are just so trust worthy. You know "this is not a time for profit", but dont tell that to George Soros, or Michelle, or the nobel prize winner for doing nothing. Or how does that health care package feel going down your throat? Now where did I put my tin foil hat. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?