Without you vets, it DIES! - The Firearms Forum

berto64 · 03-23-2004, 01:52 PM

I know a lot of you Viet Vets cruise thru here, and not finding much activity, you move on to more active spots.

Well folks, if you would post something on here it would be a more active site. Don't depend on some one else to start a new topic, do it yourself!

It doesn't matter if it's just about how ugly the nieghbors dog is, how crappy a day you've had, or your feelings on the World condition today (keep it civil, Please).

You don't have to relive your experiences in-country, but we are here to help if you do wish to. If you don't want it on the public forum, PM any of the mods or admin with a question and we will do our best to aid you.

This forum is for venting and releaving your frustration. USE IT!!
I DO!

berto

rooter · 03-24-2004, 03:31 AM

That's a noteworthy bit of encouragement Berto---how often do we need to tell the troops that a lot of times it helps just to throw it out there. There will be noone to critcize bad spelling or non existant puncuation---(mine is a grand example of both). In this time and age when civility is not as choice as it was 40 years ago, lots of transgressions can and will be overlooked. Don't really know what either of us can say Bert to get things started---we know good and well lots of troops come and view--occasionally a new handle will appear for the brief post and never to return--strange. Keep up the chatter Bert and maybe something you write will strike a chord with someone. Chief

Jay · 03-24-2004, 06:38 AM

I read many posts, and think hard about a few, but for the most part, us older folks are a dying breed. The people running this country are too self centered to allow this country to survive, short of a civil uprising. Major manufacturing is being outsourced, and yet the folks whose jobs are lost are supposed to squat and produce the cash to buy the still higher priced product. Lots of folks are gonna be real surprised when they wake up and find out they're mortgage is owned by some bank in China.

The idea of having pride in this country, seems to have become a politically incorrect stance. Instead of "how do we fix things?"......it's a "who can we blame for it?" atmosphere.

Roller coasters never really affected me one way or the other, but the ride this country is on now, really concerns me.

Mesen · 03-24-2004, 08:35 PM

There are a lot of younger folks that read here too and that is a great way to get the message out about what it's actually about.

I work with the Voice Of Democracy writers and the road to the future isn't as bleak as it looks Jay. I realize there are quite a few that don't listen but there are the ones that do and we have to make sure we encourage that at all costs.

I try to recommend the site as often as I can to get people to drop in but it's hard to say if they will stay or not. It's not as it was when I first got here. Tac invited me over from GB and I've been here off and on since.

Maybe there are a lot of people trying to forget but as long as I'm breathing I won't be one of them.

see ya
Bree

rooter · 03-25-2004, 04:15 AM

HOT DAMN!!! Both of you youngsters showed your flair by taking the time to pen some words of wisdom for us--thanks a lot. I look at this site many times like a town meeting or a PTA get together---perhaps there is a crowd assembled but there needs to be a spokesman to get things started---usually when there are a few ideas kicked around, the folks will begin in inject and participate---sometimes the most unlikely person of the entire assembleage will become the 'mover and shaker'. Public speaking usually frightens the novice---I bet it is the same for the 'public writer'---plagued with the thought of saying/writing something wrong or offensive, they do neither. I suppose also there will be the grumblers who will discourage---"damned woman wouldn't shut up---didn't give anyone else a chance to talk", when in fact, Old Gus Grumbler wouldn't say **** if he had a mouthful of it!!! Just an opinion and you know what is said about that word? Chief

Marlin · 03-25-2004, 07:32 AM

Hey Chief, just 6 bits added to it and you might find a cup of java somewhere!!

I think we all know you mean it's great to have participation!

Jay · 03-25-2004, 04:14 PM

Words of wisdom ????? hmmmmmmm, thank you sir. I hate to think I'm old enough to be wise.......

Failure to speak/write, should not be because of the fear of offending. Very few words have been written/spoken that didn't offend someone. It's much easier to "discuss" verbally, as opposed to a written discussion, and some folks are put off (or pissed off) by that and fail to participate, or raise hell right away. There are some topics that just defy common sense, and I rarely take part. Others, that I think I can reasonably contribute to, I'll step in.

I just have to bear in mind the difference between discussion and argument. I almost hate to hear myself gettin' mellow..........

berto64 · 03-25-2004, 07:23 PM

Good to see ya, Jay. Thanks for joining in and you don't HAVE to be OLD to have wisdom. I'm a perfect example of an older person sans wisdom.
I just keep rolling with the flo, rather than being wise about some of my choices. Sometimes it turns into an interesting ride but not recommended for the inexperienced.

berto

Mesen · 03-26-2004, 01:12 PM

OR THE FAINT-HEARTED!!!!!!!!!

see ya
Bree

inplanotx · 03-26-2004, 06:45 PM

Quote:

I just keep rolling with the flo,

Sorta happens naturally when the bike goes over don it?

berto64 · 04-01-2004, 09:58 PM

Hey IPT,

How's things down your way? This Easter while be One year since the wreck.
Just kinda taking it easy, still having some difficulty, the lung that was collapsed in the wreck hasn't completely recovered and I still have a bad hacking cough.

berto

berto64 · 04-04-2004, 01:11 AM

It's been two days since I posted last and noone has seen fit to reply. I know spring is here mand folks are getting started on springs like gardening, pruning, etc.

I know you all visit other boards beside this one, but please don't let THIS one become a memory! At least go to 'Fire for Effect' and bitch about how rotten your day has been or the jerk who cut you off in traffic. If someone has you on your "last" nerve, tell us about it!

That is the forum for stress relief and venting all of your frustrations. Believe me, I've been in Group therapy since 1988, and venting works!

People who have known me all these years are constantly mentioning how different I am now, but occasionaly I still have to check into the VA hospital for a "tuneup" when the stress overwhelms me.

Vocalizing you probs can be very benificial in relieving stress.

berto........... the well analyzed individual.

Marlin · 04-04-2004, 09:41 AM

We're here every day, Berto.

Never fear!

rooter · 04-04-2004, 03:27 PM

I suppose I would be better off spending more time here on the site posting than watching/fretting about the junk that comes over the airwaves in the form of news. This new type of computer operation instead of the old dial-up is really a boon---it never kickes me off like before---giggle the mouse and in a flash the screen lights up and you're on board. I did look at the newspapers for a bit this morning--boycotted them months ago but just flashed thru this morning and for true, SS/DD!!! Chief

berto64 · 04-10-2004, 10:55 PM

Howdy folks,

Just in case you folks haven't heard, tomorrow is EASTER!

Have a Fine Day!

berto

Marlin · 04-11-2004, 07:48 AM

It's now TODAY!

HE IS RISEN!!!!

This is the true basis of Christianity - The EMPTY cross.....

berto64 · 04-11-2004, 10:31 PM

You are so right, Marlin!

Thanks again for the reminder......He is Risen.

berto

berto64 · 05-03-2004, 10:21 PM

Been a while since I been in here. Thought I'd welcome you all to the month of May.

Good news about Tommy Hamill escaping and on his way home, don't ya think?

berto

Marlin · 05-03-2004, 10:33 PM

Very good.

Everything is NOT all negative as the media would have us believe.

berto64 · 05-03-2004, 10:42 PM

It is nice of'em to spread the good word now and again, isn't it?

berto

03-23-2004, 01:52 PM	#1
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Without you vets, it DIES! I know a lot of you Viet Vets cruise thru here, and not finding much activity, you move on to more active spots. Well folks, if you would post something on here it would be a more active site. Don't depend on some one else to start a new topic, do it yourself! It doesn't matter if it's just about how ugly the nieghbors dog is, how crappy a day you've had, or your feelings on the World condition today (keep it civil, Please). You don't have to relive your experiences in-country, but we are here to help if you do wish to. If you don't want it on the public forum, PM any of the mods or admin with a question and we will do our best to aid you. This forum is for venting and releaving your frustration. USE IT!! I DO! berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God. -->

03-24-2004, 03:31 AM	#2
rooter VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marty Robbins old hometown, Glendale Arizona--a suburb of Phoenix. Contributor Posts: 9,271	That's a noteworthy bit of encouragement Berto---how often do we need to tell the troops that a lot of times it helps just to throw it out there. There will be noone to critcize bad spelling or non existant puncuation---(mine is a grand example of both). In this time and age when civility is not as choice as it was 40 years ago, lots of transgressions can and will be overlooked. Don't really know what either of us can say Bert to get things started---we know good and well lots of troops come and view--occasionally a new handle will appear for the brief post and never to return--strange. Keep up the chatter Bert and maybe something you write will strike a chord with someone. Chief __________________

03-24-2004, 06:38 AM	#3
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	I read many posts, and think hard about a few, but for the most part, us older folks are a dying breed. The people running this country are too self centered to allow this country to survive, short of a civil uprising. Major manufacturing is being outsourced, and yet the folks whose jobs are lost are supposed to squat and produce the cash to buy the still higher priced product. Lots of folks are gonna be real surprised when they wake up and find out they're mortgage is owned by some bank in China. The idea of having pride in this country, seems to have become a politically incorrect stance. Instead of "how do we fix things?"......it's a "who can we blame for it?" atmosphere. Roller coasters never really affected me one way or the other, but the ride this country is on now, really concerns me. __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

03-24-2004, 08:35 PM	#4
Mesen Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BFE,mo Posts: 1,229	There are a lot of younger folks that read here too and that is a great way to get the message out about what it's actually about. I work with the Voice Of Democracy writers and the road to the future isn't as bleak as it looks Jay. I realize there are quite a few that don't listen but there are the ones that do and we have to make sure we encourage that at all costs. I try to recommend the site as often as I can to get people to drop in but it's hard to say if they will stay or not. It's not as it was when I first got here. Tac invited me over from GB and I've been here off and on since. Maybe there are a lot of people trying to forget but as long as I'm breathing I won't be one of them. see ya Bree __________________ Leading the way for freedom, our veterans will not be forgotten! www.ladiesauxvfw.com

03-25-2004, 04:15 AM	#5
rooter VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marty Robbins old hometown, Glendale Arizona--a suburb of Phoenix. Contributor Posts: 9,271	HOT DAMN!!! Both of you youngsters showed your flair by taking the time to pen some words of wisdom for us--thanks a lot. I look at this site many times like a town meeting or a PTA get together---perhaps there is a crowd assembled but there needs to be a spokesman to get things started---usually when there are a few ideas kicked around, the folks will begin in inject and participate---sometimes the most unlikely person of the entire assembleage will become the 'mover and shaker'. Public speaking usually frightens the novice---I bet it is the same for the 'public writer'---plagued with the thought of saying/writing something wrong or offensive, they do neither. I suppose also there will be the grumblers who will discourage---"damned woman wouldn't shut up---didn't give anyone else a chance to talk", when in fact, Old Gus Grumbler wouldn't say **** if he had a mouthful of it!!! Just an opinion and you know what is said about that word? Chief __________________

03-25-2004, 07:32 AM	#6
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Hey Chief, just 6 bits added to it and you might find a cup of java somewhere!! I think we all know you mean it's great to have participation! __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

03-25-2004, 04:14 PM	#7
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	Words of wisdom ????? hmmmmmmm, thank you sir. I hate to think I'm old enough to be wise....... Failure to speak/write, should not be because of the fear of offending. Very few words have been written/spoken that didn't offend someone. It's much easier to "discuss" verbally, as opposed to a written discussion, and some folks are put off (or pissed off) by that and fail to participate, or raise hell right away. There are some topics that just defy common sense, and I rarely take part. Others, that I think I can reasonably contribute to, I'll step in. I just have to bear in mind the difference between discussion and argument. I almost hate to hear myself gettin' mellow.......... __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

03-25-2004, 07:23 PM	#8
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Good to see ya, Jay. Thanks for joining in and you don't HAVE to be OLD to have wisdom. I'm a perfect example of an older person sans wisdom. I just keep rolling with the flo, rather than being wise about some of my choices. Sometimes it turns into an interesting ride but not recommended for the inexperienced. berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

03-26-2004, 01:12 PM	#9
Mesen Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: BFE,mo Posts: 1,229	OR THE FAINT-HEARTED!!!!!!!!! see ya Bree __________________ Leading the way for freedom, our veterans will not be forgotten! www.ladiesauxvfw.com

04-01-2004, 09:58 PM	#11
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Hey IPT, How's things down your way? This Easter while be One year since the wreck. Just kinda taking it easy, still having some difficulty, the lung that was collapsed in the wreck hasn't completely recovered and I still have a bad hacking cough. berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God. Last edited by berto64; 04-01-2004 at 10:00 PM..

04-04-2004, 01:11 AM	#12
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	It's been two days since I posted last and noone has seen fit to reply. I know spring is here mand folks are getting started on springs like gardening, pruning, etc. I know you all visit other boards beside this one, but please don't let THIS one become a memory! At least go to 'Fire for Effect' and bitch about how rotten your day has been or the jerk who cut you off in traffic. If someone has you on your "last" nerve, tell us about it! That is the forum for stress relief and venting all of your frustrations. Believe me, I've been in Group therapy since 1988, and venting works! People who have known me all these years are constantly mentioning how different I am now, but occasionaly I still have to check into the VA hospital for a "tuneup" when the stress overwhelms me. Vocalizing you probs can be very benificial in relieving stress. berto........... the well analyzed individual. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

04-04-2004, 09:41 AM	#13
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	We're here every day, Berto. Never fear! __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

04-04-2004, 03:27 PM	#14
rooter VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marty Robbins old hometown, Glendale Arizona--a suburb of Phoenix. Contributor Posts: 9,271	I suppose I would be better off spending more time here on the site posting than watching/fretting about the junk that comes over the airwaves in the form of news. This new type of computer operation instead of the old dial-up is really a boon---it never kickes me off like before---giggle the mouse and in a flash the screen lights up and you're on board. I did look at the newspapers for a bit this morning--boycotted them months ago but just flashed thru this morning and for true, SS/DD!!! Chief __________________

04-10-2004, 10:55 PM	#15
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Howdy folks, Just in case you folks haven't heard, tomorrow is EASTER! Have a Fine Day! berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

04-11-2004, 07:48 AM	#16
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	It's now TODAY! HE IS RISEN!!!! This is the true basis of Christianity - The EMPTY cross..... Attached Images __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

04-11-2004, 10:31 PM	#17
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	You are so right, Marlin! Thanks again for the reminder......He is Risen. berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

05-03-2004, 10:21 PM	#18
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Welcome to the month of MAY!! Been a while since I been in here. Thought I'd welcome you all to the month of May. Good news about Tommy Hamill escaping and on his way home, don't ya think? berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

05-03-2004, 10:33 PM	#19
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Very good. Everything is NOT all negative as the media would have us believe. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

05-03-2004, 10:42 PM	#20
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	It is nice of'em to spread the good word now and again, isn't it? berto __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.