Colt is being sold - The Firearms Forum

lead · 02-04-2006, 12:16 PM

check out www.michaelbane.blogspot.com (It's the Thursday, Feb. 2nd report)
Michael Bane is host of Shooting Gallery, one of my favorite shows on the Outdoor channel, so I trust his reports.
The military side of Colt is supposed to be sold to General Dynamics, the commercial side to another company, yet to be announced!
I hope it will turn out good for future Colt production. Let's all cross our fingers.

scudrunner · 02-04-2006, 02:45 PM

First Winchester now Colt....If all of the firearms MFG. go out of business in America and world war falls upon the eath again (God forbid) do you think we could get the Chinese to make our arms for us?? Just a tought

BlkHawk73 · 02-04-2006, 05:19 PM

No big surprise. After all...Winchester: no new designs in years. Just rehashed variations of the 94 and 70. Colt: no new designs in years and they drop 1/2 their catalog. Gotta keep up or fall aside.

BobMcG · 02-04-2006, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scudrunner

First Winchester now Colt....If all of the firearms MFG. go out of business in America and world war falls upon the eath again (God forbid) do you think we could get the Chinese to make our arms for us?? Just a tought

I doubt it. It'll be China we're fighting in WWIII.

buck45hd · 02-04-2006, 08:07 PM

This is my first post on these forums and I think this is a good topic to start off with. Im only 21 years old but the Colt and Winchester sales are a sad sight for me too see just as many others here on the FirearmsForum, an excellent site by the way. I've been around firearms literally my whole entire life and one of my favorite rifles is and has been the Winchester Model 70. The sale and closing of the Winchester plant marks the end of this gun and the Winchester era. I treasured what both Colt and Winchester stood for as a superior quality AMERICAN made firearm at somewhat affordable prices. The made in the USA stamp was always a draw and its sad to see the times change to a day where that will no longer hold such an esteemed value. I admit there are quality firearms manufactured over seas such as Benelli and Brownings still but can we still allow winchester to hold the same respect they once did if they go to Belgium and begin importing them back to the US? So thats the question i pose to you the readers ? Where the hell do we turn to now ? or do we shrug it off and go on hunting and shooting as if these two names never existed ?

Gabob · 02-04-2006, 09:22 PM

Years ago Colt basically ignored the civilian market and went all out for military contracts. During that time their quality control was zero. They have never been quite the same since then.

BobMcG · 02-04-2006, 09:47 PM

I'm trying to remember.... US Repeating Arms Co. was actually owned by whom?
An outside of this country interest... no?

polishshooter · 02-04-2006, 10:01 PM

Colt actually thumbed it's nose at the "Civilian Market" and even signed on to many of the anti's "Common Sense" restrictions....I think it's come home to roost...

Even though Dr. Colt was more of an actual designer than Oliver Winchester ever was, he TOO would understand the "business..." heck, he went bankrpt several times too...

But don't worry, you WILL see the "COlt" name again, just as we all will see "Winchester" again too...as sure as the sun rising tomorrow.

It just won't be as we've known them recently. Who knows, maybe they will come back BETTER.

It's Free Enterprise at work, and after all, we don't have new Hudsons or Duesenburgs today either...

Pistolenschutze · 02-04-2006, 11:33 PM

If somebody does buy Colt, maybe they'll bring back the Detective Special (and drop the 1911 line). Just kidding, just kidding!

lead · 02-05-2006, 08:59 AM

Buck45hd, welcome to the forum.
We all hate to see a classic go by the wayside, but Colt sure hasn't done much to court us lately.
Mossberg, Ruger, and Savage are still American companies. Henry is a great American company too, and S&W is back in American hands. Who knows, maybe there is some innovative gun lover like Bill Ruger out there now that will start the next great American gun manufacturer. Let's hope.

edit; I forgot Marlin(Marlin, please forgive me!). Who else am I forgetting?(Jennings doesn't count

)

wolfgang2000 · 02-05-2006, 09:28 AM

Well if Colt does come back they could always make a Glock copy like the rest of the major manufactures.

Just joking!!!

polishshooter · 02-05-2006, 10:15 AM

Didja' ever notice how much MONEY all the "Great" American companies like Winchester, Remington, and Colt made on BROWNING designs?

Let's see...1911, and how MANY "Colt Pocket Autos?"
Model 1893, 1897, Model 11, Model 12, anybody got any more to list?

ibtrukn · 02-05-2006, 10:36 AM

Held a brandy new Rem O/U 12 gaga yesterday (Read Russia-Baikal?) sigle trigger ejectors raised vent rib, an a gadget that switches witch way U wanna fire --top or bottom first decnt wood Retail at ma buddys shop $600.
He say if Rem sales domt pikup, they R goin to MEXICO.

Mossberg isAmerican but not the new O/U made in Trky by Khan. comes in 4 flavors top 3 have screwin chokes 410 fixed mod & full . Held the lil guy an itz CUTE an seems fairly well made , vent rib walnut single trigger an retail here 4 $500. (in Joisey) ever1 wants Brn Lightning or a Citori at 3-5 times the $$?? I think the Mossy gonna B a mover.

Sure theres lotsa AMERICAN bilders, but most get kinda pricey cept mebbe Kimber (I got an Oregon 22 YO itz NICE)

todaze lesson now over, stay sober during recess

JohnK3 · 02-05-2006, 11:18 PM

IBT, you ain't lyin'!

Most of the American manufacturers are overpriced. Most of the reason is because they're OVERTAXED.

www.fairtax.org

Get rid of the IRS.

02-04-2006, 12:16 PM	#1
lead Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,522	Colt is being sold check out www.michaelbane.blogspot.com (It's the Thursday, Feb. 2nd report) Michael Bane is host of Shooting Gallery, one of my favorite shows on the Outdoor channel, so I trust his reports. The military side of Colt is supposed to be sold to General Dynamics, the commercial side to another company, yet to be announced! I hope it will turn out good for future Colt production. Let's all cross our fingers. __________________ The best things in life, are not things. --> Last edited by lead; 02-04-2006 at 12:17 PM..

02-04-2006, 02:45 PM	#2
scudrunner V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 252	Re: Colt is being sold First Winchester now Colt....If all of the firearms MFG. go out of business in America and world war falls upon the eath again (God forbid) do you think we could get the Chinese to make our arms for us?? Just a tought

02-04-2006, 05:19 PM	#3
BlkHawk73 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 292	Re: Colt is being sold No big surprise. After all...Winchester: no new designs in years. Just rehashed variations of the 94 and 70. Colt: no new designs in years and they drop 1/2 their catalog. Gotta keep up or fall aside. __________________ "All you martyrs and saviours go through the same door" - G.S.

02-04-2006, 08:07 PM	#5
buck45hd Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 7	Re: Colt is being sold This is my first post on these forums and I think this is a good topic to start off with. Im only 21 years old but the Colt and Winchester sales are a sad sight for me too see just as many others here on the FirearmsForum, an excellent site by the way. I've been around firearms literally my whole entire life and one of my favorite rifles is and has been the Winchester Model 70. The sale and closing of the Winchester plant marks the end of this gun and the Winchester era. I treasured what both Colt and Winchester stood for as a superior quality AMERICAN made firearm at somewhat affordable prices. The made in the USA stamp was always a draw and its sad to see the times change to a day where that will no longer hold such an esteemed value. I admit there are quality firearms manufactured over seas such as Benelli and Brownings still but can we still allow winchester to hold the same respect they once did if they go to Belgium and begin importing them back to the US? So thats the question i pose to you the readers ? Where the hell do we turn to now ? or do we shrug it off and go on hunting and shooting as if these two names never existed ?

02-04-2006, 09:22 PM	#6
Gabob Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SW GA CSA Posts: 1,159	Re: Colt is being sold Years ago Colt basically ignored the civilian market and went all out for military contracts. During that time their quality control was zero. They have never been quite the same since then. __________________ NRA Endowment Member Keep Your Powder Dry

02-04-2006, 09:47 PM	#7
BobMcG Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Twilight Zone. Contributor Posts: 1,119	Re: Colt is being sold I'm trying to remember.... US Repeating Arms Co. was actually owned by whom? An outside of this country interest... no?

02-04-2006, 10:01 PM	#8
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: Colt is being sold Colt actually thumbed it's nose at the "Civilian Market" and even signed on to many of the anti's "Common Sense" restrictions....I think it's come home to roost... Even though Dr. Colt was more of an actual designer than Oliver Winchester ever was, he TOO would understand the "business..." heck, he went bankrpt several times too... But don't worry, you WILL see the "COlt" name again, just as we all will see "Winchester" again too...as sure as the sun rising tomorrow. It just won't be as we've known them recently. Who knows, maybe they will come back BETTER. It's Free Enterprise at work, and after all, we don't have new Hudsons or Duesenburgs today either... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

02-04-2006, 11:33 PM	#9
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: Colt is being sold If somebody does buy Colt, maybe they'll bring back the Detective Special (and drop the 1911 line). Just kidding, just kidding! __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

02-05-2006, 08:59 AM	#10
lead Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,522	Re: Colt is being sold Buck45hd, welcome to the forum. We all hate to see a classic go by the wayside, but Colt sure hasn't done much to court us lately. Mossberg, Ruger, and Savage are still American companies. Henry is a great American company too, and S&W is back in American hands. Who knows, maybe there is some innovative gun lover like Bill Ruger out there now that will start the next great American gun manufacturer. Let's hope. edit; I forgot Marlin(Marlin, please forgive me!). Who else am I forgetting?(Jennings doesn't count ) __________________ The best things in life, are not things. Last edited by lead; 02-05-2006 at 09:14 AM..

02-05-2006, 09:28 AM	#11
wolfgang2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Grove MO. Posts: 542	Re: Colt is being sold Well if Colt does come back they could always make a Glock copy like the rest of the major manufactures. Just joking!!! __________________ Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more!

02-05-2006, 10:15 AM	#12
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: Colt is being sold Didja' ever notice how much MONEY all the "Great" American companies like Winchester, Remington, and Colt made on BROWNING designs? Let's see...1911, and how MANY "Colt Pocket Autos?" Model 1893, 1897, Model 11, Model 12, anybody got any more to list? __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

02-05-2006, 10:36 AM	#13
ibtrukn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: central N.J. Posts: 4,335	Re: Colt is being sold Held a brandy new Rem O/U 12 gaga yesterday (Read Russia-Baikal?) sigle trigger ejectors raised vent rib, an a gadget that switches witch way U wanna fire --top or bottom first decnt wood Retail at ma buddys shop $600. He say if Rem sales domt pikup, they R goin to MEXICO. Mossberg isAmerican but not the new O/U made in Trky by Khan. comes in 4 flavors top 3 have screwin chokes 410 fixed mod & full . Held the lil guy an itz CUTE an seems fairly well made , vent rib walnut single trigger an retail here 4 $500. (in Joisey) ever1 wants Brn Lightning or a Citori at 3-5 times the $$?? I think the Mossy gonna B a mover. Sure theres lotsa AMERICAN bilders, but most get kinda pricey cept mebbe Kimber (I got an Oregon 22 YO itz NICE) todaze lesson now over, stay sober during recess

02-05-2006, 11:18 PM	#14
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Re: Colt is being sold IBT, you ain't lyin'! Most of the American manufacturers are overpriced. Most of the reason is because they're OVERTAXED. www.fairtax.org Get rid of the IRS.