Iver & Johnson Revolver (ID Help) - The Firearms Forum

BudDog · 10-21-2009, 05:45 PM

Bill,
Told a friend about your expertise on Iver / Johnsons and thought we could help identify his revolver. Real nice shape mechanically tight and the nickel finish is better then most I have seen.

Barrel says,
IVER JOHNSONS ARMS & CYCLE WORKS*
*FITCHBURG MASS. U.S.A.

3 1/4 inch barrel.
Hammer: Concealed
Hammer Action: Coil Spring
Double top post barrel latch
5 Hole
Caliber: 38
Under Grip: D86495
Trigger Guard: 86495
Under Latch: 86495
Butt: NOV17 (Looks like only one patent # but not legible.)

Could provide pictures if it would help.

Thanks again for your time,
BudDog

b.goforth · 10-22-2009, 12:00 PM

this is a third model large frame 38 S&W safety automaic hammerless revolver. serial number D 86495 was manufactured in 1922. there were 5,300 of this model manufactured that year.

THIRD MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMERLESS REVOLVER
(Smokeless Powder Cartridges)-------------1909-1941
LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION; Double top post barrel latch, with Hammer the Hammer action, nickel finish standard blue optional. Two frame sizes, four calibers, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top, two piece oversize hard rubber and one piece wood grips optional. Redesigned for smokeless powder. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire with 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .32 Special with 6 rounds cylinder capacity, .38 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame .22 rimfire with 3 inch barrel 13 ½ ounces, .32 centerfire with 3 inch barrel 14 ounces, large frame .32 Special with 3 ¼ inch barrel 19 ¼ ounces, .38 centerfire with 3 ¼ inch barrel 19 ounces; Height: small frame 3 ¾ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/16 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Third Model features a double top post barrel latch, coil hammer spring and four cross pins in the lower frame.
VALUE: 100%=$260 60%=$125

bill

BudDog · 10-22-2009, 01:38 PM

Bill,
My friend and I thank you for your generous and detailed identification of his revolver! You are truly remarkable!

Thanks again,
BudDog

10-21-2009, 05:45 PM	#1
BudDog Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11	Iver & Johnson Revolver (ID Help) Bill, Told a friend about your expertise on Iver / Johnsons and thought we could help identify his revolver. Real nice shape mechanically tight and the nickel finish is better then most I have seen. Barrel says, IVER JOHNSONS ARMS & CYCLE WORKS* *FITCHBURG MASS. U.S.A. 3 1/4 inch barrel. Hammer: Concealed Hammer Action: Coil Spring Double top post barrel latch 5 Hole Caliber: 38 Under Grip: D86495 Trigger Guard: 86495 Under Latch: 86495 Butt: NOV17 (Looks like only one patent # but not legible.) Could provide pictures if it would help. Thanks again for your time, BudDog -->

10-22-2009, 12:00 PM	#2
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Iver & Johnson Revolver (ID Help) this is a third model large frame 38 S&W safety automaic hammerless revolver. serial number D 86495 was manufactured in 1922. there were 5,300 of this model manufactured that year. THIRD MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMERLESS REVOLVER (Smokeless Powder Cartridges)-------------1909-1941 LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION; Double top post barrel latch, with Hammer the Hammer action, nickel finish standard blue optional. Two frame sizes, four calibers, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top, two piece oversize hard rubber and one piece wood grips optional. Redesigned for smokeless powder. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire with 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .32 Special with 6 rounds cylinder capacity, .38 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame .22 rimfire with 3 inch barrel 13 ½ ounces, .32 centerfire with 3 inch barrel 14 ounces, large frame .32 Special with 3 ¼ inch barrel 19 ¼ ounces, .38 centerfire with 3 ¼ inch barrel 19 ounces; Height: small frame 3 ¾ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/16 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Third Model features a double top post barrel latch, coil hammer spring and four cross pins in the lower frame. VALUE: 100%=$260 60%=$125 bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com

10-22-2009, 01:38 PM	#3
BudDog Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11	Re: Iver & Johnson Revolver (ID Help) Bill, My friend and I thank you for your generous and detailed identification of his revolver! You are truly remarkable! Thanks again, BudDog