Iver Johnson 16 Gauge Shotgun - The Firearms Forum

curious17 · 12-27-2010, 09:58 PM

Not sure if this is the proper channel to use but trying to find out how old an Iver Johnson 16 gauge shotgun with an owl stamp and 5 number serial ending with B suffix. It also has the name champion on it and a stamp'd patent pending; patent June, 15 15 on top of the barrel. Any information would be appreciated. HAPPY NEW YEAR

22shot · 12-28-2010, 11:57 AM

currious17

Welcome to TFF.

Could be one of two (Champion or Matted Rib grade).

Does yours have a vented rib barrel or is it plain?

The Champion was introduced in 1909; dropped in 1976.
The Matted Rib; about 1910; dropped in 1948.

Without pics or a descripton of condition; a value is hard to determine; a really pristine 16 ga. single shot Iver would not go for more than $250...not much "collector" interest.

b.goforth · 12-28-2010, 12:45 PM

champion single barrel shotguns with a single letter code suffix was mande between 1920 and 1929. with the patent date markings on in it would be closer to 1920 than 1929.

CHAMPION MODEL 36----------------------------1909-1922
Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, and 20; barrel length: 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; American black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; case hardened receiver (nickel available as option), browned barrel; automatic ejectors extra cost option; .410 bore, 24 and 28 gauges offered in 1913; 24 gauge dropped 1928; all gauges except 12 dropped after 1941; name changed to Champion single Barrel in 1917.
CHAMPION SINGLE BARREL---------------------------1923-1978
This is the same gun as the earlier Model 36 champion except that the smaller gauges are now built on the same frame as the large gagues. See above picture for specifications. The exact year production stopped has not yet been determined. Some of these single barrel shotguns have been seen with Canadian marking, these were most likely shipped to Canada and then marked as there is no evidence that Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works ever had a manufacturing factory in Canada
VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$95
Add 15% for 24, 28 gauges

bill

curious17 · 12-28-2010, 08:37 PM

Thanks so much for the quick reply we are really just trying to find out more about it no intent of selling because of family keepsake. This site has been a lot of help

curious17 · 12-28-2010, 08:38 PM

Really appreciate the info and look forward to learning more from this site.

12-27-2010, 09:58 PM	#1
curious17 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NE Alabama CSA Posts: 27	Iver Johnson 16 Gauge Shotgun Not sure if this is the proper channel to use but trying to find out how old an Iver Johnson 16 gauge shotgun with an owl stamp and 5 number serial ending with B suffix. It also has the name champion on it and a stamp'd patent pending; patent June, 15 15 on top of the barrel. Any information would be appreciated. HAPPY NEW YEAR -->

12-28-2010, 11:57 AM	#2
22shot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 376	Re: Iver Johnson 16 Gauge Shotgun currious17 Welcome to TFF. Could be one of two (Champion or Matted Rib grade). Does yours have a vented rib barrel or is it plain? The Champion was introduced in 1909; dropped in 1976. The Matted Rib; about 1910; dropped in 1948. Without pics or a descripton of condition; a value is hard to determine; a really pristine 16 ga. single shot Iver would not go for more than $250...not much "collector" interest.

12-28-2010, 12:45 PM	#3
b.goforth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 3,174	Re: Iver Johnson 16 Gauge Shotgun champion single barrel shotguns with a single letter code suffix was mande between 1920 and 1929. with the patent date markings on in it would be closer to 1920 than 1929. CHAMPION MODEL 36----------------------------1909-1922 Single barrel; rebounding center mounted hammer; top lever operated break open design; gauges: 12, 16, and 20; barrel length: 28, 30, and 32 inches (features barrel and lug forged in one piece) bored full chock only; American black Walnut butt stock and fore-end; automatic extractors; weight 6¾ pounds; overall length with 30 inch barrel 45 inches; case hardened receiver (nickel available as option), browned barrel; automatic ejectors extra cost option; .410 bore, 24 and 28 gauges offered in 1913; 24 gauge dropped 1928; all gauges except 12 dropped after 1941; name changed to Champion single Barrel in 1917. CHAMPION SINGLE BARREL---------------------------1923-1978 This is the same gun as the earlier Model 36 champion except that the smaller gauges are now built on the same frame as the large gagues. See above picture for specifications. The exact year production stopped has not yet been determined. Some of these single barrel shotguns have been seen with Canadian marking, these were most likely shipped to Canada and then marked as there is no evidence that Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works ever had a manufacturing factory in Canada VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$95 Add 15% for 24, 28 gauges bill __________________ Author: Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works 1871-1993 H&R Arms Company 1871-1986 (due spring 2010) available from www.gunshowbooks.com website; iverjohnsoncollector.x10hosting.com

12-28-2010, 08:37 PM	#4
curious17 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NE Alabama CSA Posts: 27	Re: Iver Johnson 16 Gauge Shotgun Thanks so much for the quick reply we are really just trying to find out more about it no intent of selling because of family keepsake. This site has been a lot of help

12-28-2010, 08:38 PM	#5
curious17 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NE Alabama CSA Posts: 27	Re: Iver Johnson 16 Gauge Shotgun Really appreciate the info and look forward to learning more from this site.