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snuffynra · 02-21-2009, 12:52 PM

well everyone asked for changes ,now there getting them http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/e...sWorstProv.flv

dge479 · 02-21-2009, 03:04 PM

I had to stop mid way, I couldnt take it. WTF
Well the minority leader was right, the bill is a piece of $h1*.

momo · 02-21-2009, 03:21 PM

WTF are these people thinking about???

Nortranman · 02-21-2009, 03:25 PM

I hope the libs are proud of themselves; they have succeeded in making american citizens second class in their own country!

Tom Militano · 02-21-2009, 03:26 PM

I think we should go down to the border and start a new shooting sport, international running illegals. If you'll notice, many stores have signs posted in English and Spanish now. Nothing like making a lot of illegals feel right at home.

snuffynra · 02-21-2009, 03:28 PM

unbelievable!

Nortranman · 02-21-2009, 03:32 PM

Hey Tom, I just got a good idea for getting rid of all those land mines the rest of the world is having problems with. Plant them in long rows so the runners have to run in a straight line!

Tom Militano · 02-21-2009, 03:37 PM

Plant them irregularly, so you can see which border jumpers have a sense of adventure.

cycloneman · 02-21-2009, 05:22 PM

Jesus H Christ, mother @@@@@@ Holy **** God *** this piece of &&&&&
what the **** holy mother of God, I dont believe this &&&& just &&&& me in the ^^^ why don't ya. &*^^%%$$^%%$^*****&&^%%$$##@#$#$

Dakota Red 1 · 02-21-2009, 07:46 PM

Any sponsor or supporter of this legislation is an ENEMY and a TRAITOR. They make al Qaida, the Taliban and the Iranian mullahs look like a minor annoyance. A nuclear North Korea is a joke compared to the destruction that socialist politicians can do to us. But it won't last.

The political pendulum will swing the other way. When it does we have to light a fire under the people we elect. We need to slap any hand that reaches accross the aisle, keep them in line and not be at all satisfied until the current damage is reversed and the nation is again strong. No more electing a president and congress that represents us and seeing them bloat the government and not do squat about illegal invasions of our borders.

The socialists that we have now do not represent us, don't care what we think and will not be affected by anything we say or do. Forget them. When we put our people in the majority again, then act. They are the mules we rent. Make them feel it.

Lori Mick · 02-21-2009, 10:18 PM

Well I guess the little old Obamamama aunt can stay and get all sorts of benefits too!

I'm just speechless....of course this is all our huge purchase of more votes for 2010 and 2012...

we are so screwed....

They've got to stop this travesty to America! We can employ our own!

ugh

patooey

I'm so upset I could just spit!

artabr · 02-21-2009, 10:48 PM

Funding for the E-Verify program was denied in the Porkusall Bill.
Gee, I wonder why.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123335106500434589.html

White House Holds Off on Tightening Immigration Checks

By MIRIAM JORDAN
The Obama administration postponed implementation of a Bush-era program to crack down on illegal immigrant workers and their employers, and is likely to delay another set to go into effect on Feb. 2.

A notice published Friday in the Federal Registrar confirms that a program that would require federal contractors to ensure that their employees are legally authorized to work in the U.S. will be postponed by 90 days. The E-Verify system, an electronic internet-based system that enables employers to compare the names and Social Security numbers of new employees against a government database, won't become mandatory until May 21. According to the registrar, the postponement of the rule occurs "in order to permit the new administration an adequate opportunity to review the rule."

Another rule concerning changes to employer verification of a person's employment eligibility will be delayed until April 3. On Monday, all U.S. employers were to begin using a revised version of the so-called Form I-9, which is used to verify the identity and authorization to work in the U.S. of all newly hired workers. Delaying the implementation of the rule by 60 days will allow employers to continue to accept a wider range of documents -- including documents that have expired -- as proof of work eligibility.

The E-Verify program was pushed by President George W. Bush as part of his attempt to tighten immigration enforcement. He signed an executive order to require federal contractors to use the electronic database. The rule originally was scheduled to go into effect on Jan. 15, but DHS delayed implementation until Feb. 20 after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other groups filed a lawsuit to block it.

"The Department of Homeland Security remains committed to implementing the E-Verify electronic employment verification system, which is free, voluntary and represents the best means available for determining employment eligibility of new hires and the validity of their social security numbers," said Bill Wright, a spokesman for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which operates the system.

People with knowledge of the government's plans said that the E-Verify rule for federal contractors could be postponed further or even cancelled altogether. "Although embraced by many in federal and state government, E-Verify is technically on life support," says Angelo Paparelli, an immigration attorney who specializes in employment.

As the Bush administration put in motion an enforcement-first approach to illegal immigration, it encouraged employers to sign onto the electronic program amid a crackdown on those who hire undocumented workers. Currently, about 100,000 businesses participate in the program, which is still voluntary. However, many business and immigrant groups have charged it isn't fault-proof and could lead employers to fire employees who may be legally in the country.

Write to Miriam Jordan at miriam.jordan@wsj.com

Art

glocknut · 02-22-2009, 01:46 AM

I no longer doubt that the democrats are trying to destroy the country...intentionally.

But why? What do they get out of it?? I guess they would get to stay in power for 100 years or more? They're banking on the idea that those illegals will vote for them...

mike
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1shot1k · 02-22-2009, 02:10 AM

Not profiling intentionally here ..but if such passes...I guess any terrorist with airfare is citizen after 24 ?

u know....these socialist nuts ..in their own way..and their plannings...I have a feeling at least some of our enemies can and will lay back on near future U.S. soil attacks..for if we are heading for civil problems or internal unrest...And I mean it wont be like when the
IAotola / iran let the hostages go 5 minutes after Reagan swore in --- but more like during late WWII when our leaders prayed Hitler wouldnt be killed or taken out...as he was destroying his country as fast as we coul dhope to.....

I dont know...just hit me and tried to explain....

02-21-2009, 12:52 PM	#1
snuffynra Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: upstate ny Posts: 31	here is some of the changes well everyone asked for changes ,now there getting them http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/e...sWorstProv.flv -->

02-21-2009, 03:04 PM	#2
dge479 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Haskell NJ Posts: 618	Re: here is some of the changes I had to stop mid way, I couldnt take it. WTF Well the minority leader was right, the bill is a piece of $h1*. __________________ Proud GOA and NRA member. Old Mopars and Guns, About as good as it gets. Guns Dont Kill, Socialized Healthcare does

02-21-2009, 03:21 PM	#3
momo Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 300	Re: here is some of the changes WTF are these people thinking about???

02-21-2009, 03:25 PM	#4
Nortranman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 197	Re: here is some of the changes I hope the libs are proud of themselves; they have succeeded in making american citizens second class in their own country! __________________ "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Ben Franklin

02-21-2009, 03:26 PM	#5
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: here is some of the changes I think we should go down to the border and start a new shooting sport, international running illegals. If you'll notice, many stores have signs posted in English and Spanish now. Nothing like making a lot of illegals feel right at home.

02-21-2009, 03:28 PM	#6
snuffynra Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: upstate ny Posts: 31	Re: here is some of the changes unbelievable!

02-21-2009, 03:32 PM	#7
Nortranman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 197	Re: here is some of the changes Hey Tom, I just got a good idea for getting rid of all those land mines the rest of the world is having problems with. Plant them in long rows so the runners have to run in a straight line! __________________ "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Ben Franklin

02-21-2009, 03:37 PM	#8
Tom Militano Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jacksonville, AL Posts: 1,255	Re: here is some of the changes Plant them irregularly, so you can see which border jumpers have a sense of adventure.

02-21-2009, 05:22 PM	#9
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: here is some of the changes Jesus H Christ, mother @@@@@@ Holy ** God * this piece of &&&&& what the **** holy mother of God, I dont believe this &&&& just &&&& me in the ^^^ why don't ya. &^^%%$$^%%$^****&&^%%$$##@#$#$ __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-21-2009, 07:46 PM	#10
Dakota Red 1 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 504	Re: here is some of the changes Any sponsor or supporter of this legislation is an ENEMY and a TRAITOR. They make al Qaida, the Taliban and the Iranian mullahs look like a minor annoyance. A nuclear North Korea is a joke compared to the destruction that socialist politicians can do to us. But it won't last. The political pendulum will swing the other way. When it does we have to light a fire under the people we elect. We need to slap any hand that reaches accross the aisle, keep them in line and not be at all satisfied until the current damage is reversed and the nation is again strong. No more electing a president and congress that represents us and seeing them bloat the government and not do squat about illegal invasions of our borders. The socialists that we have now do not represent us, don't care what we think and will not be affected by anything we say or do. Forget them. When we put our people in the majority again, then act. They are the mules we rent. Make them feel it. __________________ Warte nur, balde ruhest du auch.

02-21-2009, 10:18 PM	#11
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: here is some of the changes Well I guess the little old Obamamama aunt can stay and get all sorts of benefits too! I'm just speechless....of course this is all our huge purchase of more votes for 2010 and 2012... we are so screwed.... They've got to stop this travesty to America! We can employ our own! ugh patooey I'm so upset I could just spit! __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

02-21-2009, 10:48 PM	#12
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: here is some of the changes Funding for the E-Verify program was denied in the Porkusall Bill. Gee, I wonder why. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123335106500434589.html White House Holds Off on Tightening Immigration Checks By MIRIAM JORDAN The Obama administration postponed implementation of a Bush-era program to crack down on illegal immigrant workers and their employers, and is likely to delay another set to go into effect on Feb. 2. A notice published Friday in the Federal Registrar confirms that a program that would require federal contractors to ensure that their employees are legally authorized to work in the U.S. will be postponed by 90 days. The E-Verify system, an electronic internet-based system that enables employers to compare the names and Social Security numbers of new employees against a government database, won't become mandatory until May 21. According to the registrar, the postponement of the rule occurs "in order to permit the new administration an adequate opportunity to review the rule." Another rule concerning changes to employer verification of a person's employment eligibility will be delayed until April 3. On Monday, all U.S. employers were to begin using a revised version of the so-called Form I-9, which is used to verify the identity and authorization to work in the U.S. of all newly hired workers. Delaying the implementation of the rule by 60 days will allow employers to continue to accept a wider range of documents -- including documents that have expired -- as proof of work eligibility. The E-Verify program was pushed by President George W. Bush as part of his attempt to tighten immigration enforcement. He signed an executive order to require federal contractors to use the electronic database. The rule originally was scheduled to go into effect on Jan. 15, but DHS delayed implementation until Feb. 20 after the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other groups filed a lawsuit to block it. "The Department of Homeland Security remains committed to implementing the E-Verify electronic employment verification system, which is free, voluntary and represents the best means available for determining employment eligibility of new hires and the validity of their social security numbers," said Bill Wright, a spokesman for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, which operates the system. People with knowledge of the government's plans said that the E-Verify rule for federal contractors could be postponed further or even cancelled altogether. "Although embraced by many in federal and state government, E-Verify is technically on life support," says Angelo Paparelli, an immigration attorney who specializes in employment. As the Bush administration put in motion an enforcement-first approach to illegal immigration, it encouraged employers to sign onto the electronic program amid a crackdown on those who hire undocumented workers. Currently, about 100,000 businesses participate in the program, which is still voluntary. However, many business and immigrant groups have charged it isn't fault-proof and could lead employers to fire employees who may be legally in the country. Write to Miriam Jordan at miriam.jordan@wsj.com Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!! Last edited by artabr; 02-21-2009 at 10:49 PM..

02-22-2009, 01:46 AM	#13
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: here is some of the changes I no longer doubt that the democrats are trying to destroy the country...intentionally. But why? What do they get out of it?? I guess they would get to stay in power for 100 years or more? They're banking on the idea that those illegals will vote for them... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

02-22-2009, 02:10 AM	#14
1shot1k Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 904	Re: here is some of the changes Not profiling intentionally here ..but if such passes...I guess any terrorist with airfare is citizen after 24 ? u know....these socialist nuts ..in their own way..and their plannings...I have a feeling at least some of our enemies can and will lay back on near future U.S. soil attacks..for if we are heading for civil problems or internal unrest...And I mean it wont be like when the IAotola / iran let the hostages go 5 minutes after Reagan swore in --- but more like during late WWII when our leaders prayed Hitler wouldnt be killed or taken out...as he was destroying his country as fast as we coul dhope to..... I dont know...just hit me and tried to explain....