Socialism/Ronald Reagan/History

[Songman]

I'm not really sure what to name this so I gave it a few names.

We're all hot and heavy into debates about Socialism in the US and the socialized medicine that the Democrats have tried to force on us. Now I am a student of history and have tried to learn a lot about not only our country, but other countries and civilizations throughout history. I thought the idea of Socialism and socialized medicine was something relatively new. I thought the Democrats toyed with it briefly back in the 60s. I didn't realize how much farther back it went. So I was surprised when I ran across this little gem.

http://youtu.be/fRdLpem-AAs

This is a nice little piece too, on the myths about socialized medicine that is used to try to sway people..

Click here

[jack404]

i can tell you from first hand experience , nationalised ( socialised ) medicine sucks

not to knock reagan but he was a actor , not a political science student, be he knew more about the dangers of socislism than any leader i seen yet

sorry cant get into google doc's ...

[Songman]

Here is a PDF version if you can get it...

http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter...letterv3n1.pdf

[jack404]

that doc is spot on ,

socialised medicine here is a joke

i'm a veteran born here but on the socialised list i'm way down the points list for treatment

if your a gay refugee non white you'll have enough points to jump most que's

now take a look at our indigenous population , with socialised medicine and the yuppie demands of the health workers , they dont want to live and work in the outback so sick indigenous folks gotta get to the cities , often they cant so where the health care ?

and when they do get there we often find they dont have enough points to stay in the que .. but get jumped by immigrants

so they dont bother getting treatment but die in the bush

i must pay full price for dental ( despite my mil service ) but refo's dont pay a cent
politicians dont pay either , but the middle class pay

to get anywhere in the system there is a joke

if your a 1/4 asian 1/4 african , 1/4 middle eastern , and claim you dont know the other quater, have AIDS , are gay , and transexual or in the process of being .. you'll be in front of everyone for life

and the points system shows us this is true

i'd have to be dead twice to get the same points as a refugee ... and why i keep in joking about sneaking outta the country and coming back in via a refo boat , that way i'd have no problems ..

but i refuse to get 10 extra points by going to gaol ... even the crims are better cared for than the folks who pay for it all

[Songman]

I wish the clueless folks here could see it... I guess until you have been to the other yard, the grass really does look greener over there.