45/70- bullets - The Firearms Forum

TheGunClinger · 03-30-2012, 04:26 PM

Anyone know where I can find some 405 gr jacketed soft point bullets?
I am running low and can't find any.

I'd like to get a few hundred.

sting75ray · 03-30-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGunClinger

Anyone know where I can find some 405 gr jacketed soft point bullets?
I am running low and can't find any.

I'd like to get a few hundred.

I used to buy Rainier bullets for my 45/70 but they no longer have them. I have not looked on Midway but they used to have them.

Little Rooster · 03-31-2012, 04:48 AM

http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.as...63209&CAT=4143

I have had very pleasant dealings with this company on my shooting needs.

TheGunClinger · 03-31-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Rooster

http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.as...63209&CAT=4143

I have had very pleasant dealings with this company on my shooting needs.

Just checked there and they are out of them. I got the last box from Midway about 6 mo. ago and they havnt had any since. I did order some cast bullets from Midway.

carver · 03-31-2012, 07:29 AM

My brother is new to reloading, and he is gearing up to reload his 45/70. His first step was to go down to the store, and buy some 325gr bullets. He has three reloading manuals, and none of them give load data for the 325gr bullets. So he goes on line and finds that Unique will work for the 325gr bullets, but the site only lists a start load, and a max load, and lists no presures at all. So now he is on line trying to find more information on this load. My advice to him was simple, why not load what is in the reloading manuals that you have. They are the most popular loads, and all the info you need is right there. I wish you luck on finding info on the 405 bullets though!

LDBennett · 03-31-2012, 08:40 AM

If you strike out on the 405 bullets the 300 grain jacketed hollow point bullets from Remington sold as "Bulk" bullets (in plastic baggies. not boxed) work best in my Browning 1886 Winchester lever clone.

Be aware that there are three levels of reloading data for 45/70:

Lowest is for old breech loaded Springfields.

Mid level is for lever guns like the Marlins or Winchesters or the Browning levers.

High level is for the falling block Ruger No.1's

Whatever you do, don't mix up the loads or you may find out what gun shrapnel look like!

In my testing of 300 grain Remington bulk packaged jacketed hollow point bullets beat out the boxed 300 grain bullets significantly in MY gun.

LDBennett

carver · 03-31-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LDBennett

If you strike out on the 405 bullets the 300 grain jacketed hollow point bullets from Remington sold as "Bulk" bullets (in plastic baggies. not boxed) work best in my Browning 1886 Winchester lever clone.

Be aware that there are three levels of reloading data for 45/70:

Lowest is for old breech loaded Springfields.

Mid level is for lever guns like the Marlins or Winchesters or the Browning levers.

High level is for the falling block Ruger No.1's

Whatever you do, don't mix up the loads or you may find out what gun shrapnel look like!

In my testing of 300 grain Remington bulk packaged jacketed hollow point bullets beat out the boxed 300 grain bullets significantly in MY gun.

LDBennett

Really good advice! I cautioned my brother on this very thing, but did not think to add it to my post. Thanks!

TheGunClinger · 03-31-2012, 10:44 AM

Thanks on the data tip. I use the Marlin 1895 data from the 49th Lyman manual. 53gr of Varget seems to work good. I'm going to Bass Pro Shop today and see if they have any of the 300 gr HP's in stock.

quigleysharps4570 · 03-31-2012, 04:14 PM

Powder Valley is showing that they have 400 gr. Speer bullets in stock.
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/index.html

carver · 03-31-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by quigleysharps4570

Powder Valley is showing that they have 400 gr. Speer bullets in stock.
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/index.html

But the OP was looking for 405 gr jacketed soft point bullets!

myfriendis410 · 03-31-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LDBennett

If you strike out on the 405 bullets the 300 grain jacketed hollow point bullets from Remington sold as "Bulk" bullets (in plastic baggies. not boxed) work best in my Browning 1886 Winchester lever clone.

Be aware that there are three levels of reloading data for 45/70:

Lowest is for old breech loaded Springfields.

Mid level is for lever guns like the Marlins or Winchesters or the Browning levers.

High level is for the falling block Ruger No.1's

Whatever you do, don't mix up the loads or you may find out what gun shrapnel look like!

In my testing of 300 grain Remington bulk packaged jacketed hollow point bullets beat out the boxed 300 grain bullets significantly in MY gun.

LDBennett

There are four power levels: you missed the one for the Sharps 1874 rated at 29,200 cup (this is what most factory ammunition is loaded to). The Trapdoor load is around 20,000 cup.

The last bag of Remington 405 JSP's I bought was at Cabelas. You might try there. Great shooting bullet.

Little Rooster · 03-31-2012, 07:06 PM

http://www.hornady.com/store/.458-45-CAL/

Hornady offers some lighter and some heavier...I don't know if there is a compromise for your weapon.

quigleysharps4570 · 03-31-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

But the OP was looking for 405 gr jacketed soft point bullets!

Wasn't anyone coming up with anything closer than that 400 gr. is why that got thrown out there. I find it doubtful that he nor the game he uses it on will know the difference between 5 grs. either.

http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballist...il.aspx?id=126

sting75ray · 03-31-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by quigleysharps4570

Wasn't anyone coming up with anything closer than that 400 gr. is why that got thrown out there. I find it doubtful that he nor the game he uses it on will know the difference between 5 grs. either.

http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballist...il.aspx?id=126

That is what I was thinking, kinda like the 117gr and the 120gr bullets I load in my daughters 25-06. I have not heard a deer or pasture poodle yet complain about getting shot with a bullet that weighs 3grs more. LOL

TheGunClinger · 04-01-2012, 07:37 AM

I asked about the 405 gr bullets because thats what I was using originally. I didnt even think about 400 gr, duh. I just found some Speer .458 dia. 400 gr JSP's at Midway. Thanks pointing me the right direction Quigley! And thanks to all who offered me their advice.

carver · 04-01-2012, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGunClinger

I asked about the 405 gr bullets because thats what I was using originally. I didnt even think about 400 gr, duh. I just found some Speer .458 dia. 400 gr JSP's at Midway. Thanks pointing me the right direction Quigley! And thanks to all who offered me their advice.

There you go! Reloading information is readily avalible for the 400 gr. bullets.

03-30-2012, 04:26 PM	#1
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,401	45/70- bullets Anyone know where I can find some 405 gr jacketed soft point bullets? I am running low and can't find any. I'd like to get a few hundred. __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year. -->

03-31-2012, 04:48 AM	#3
Little Rooster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Old Dominion Posts: 564	Re: 45/70- bullets http://www.buffaloarms.com/Detail.as...63209&CAT=4143 I have had very pleasant dealings with this company on my shooting needs. __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know Victory Nor Defeat" Teddy Roosevelt Last edited by Little Rooster; 03-31-2012 at 04:49 AM..

03-31-2012, 07:29 AM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,552	Re: 45/70- bullets My brother is new to reloading, and he is gearing up to reload his 45/70. His first step was to go down to the store, and buy some 325gr bullets. He has three reloading manuals, and none of them give load data for the 325gr bullets. So he goes on line and finds that Unique will work for the 325gr bullets, but the site only lists a start load, and a max load, and lists no presures at all. So now he is on line trying to find more information on this load. My advice to him was simple, why not load what is in the reloading manuals that you have. They are the most popular loads, and all the info you need is right there. I wish you luck on finding info on the 405 bullets though! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-31-2012, 08:40 AM	#6
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,754	Re: 45/70- bullets If you strike out on the 405 bullets the 300 grain jacketed hollow point bullets from Remington sold as "Bulk" bullets (in plastic baggies. not boxed) work best in my Browning 1886 Winchester lever clone. Be aware that there are three levels of reloading data for 45/70: Lowest is for old breech loaded Springfields. Mid level is for lever guns like the Marlins or Winchesters or the Browning levers. High level is for the falling block Ruger No.1's Whatever you do, don't mix up the loads or you may find out what gun shrapnel look like! In my testing of 300 grain Remington bulk packaged jacketed hollow point bullets beat out the boxed 300 grain bullets significantly in MY gun. LDBennett

03-31-2012, 10:44 AM	#8
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,401	Re: 45/70- bullets Thanks on the data tip. I use the Marlin 1895 data from the 49th Lyman manual. 53gr of Varget seems to work good. I'm going to Bass Pro Shop today and see if they have any of the 300 gr HP's in stock. __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year.

03-31-2012, 04:14 PM	#9
quigleysharps4570 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 161	Re: 45/70- bullets Powder Valley is showing that they have 400 gr. Speer bullets in stock. http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/index.html

03-31-2012, 07:06 PM	#12
Little Rooster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Old Dominion Posts: 564	Re: 45/70- bullets http://www.hornady.com/store/.458-45-CAL/ Hornady offers some lighter and some heavier...I don't know if there is a compromise for your weapon. __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know Victory Nor Defeat" Teddy Roosevelt

04-01-2012, 07:37 AM	#15
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,401	Re: 45/70- bullets I asked about the 405 gr bullets because thats what I was using originally. I didnt even think about 400 gr, duh. I just found some Speer .458 dia. 400 gr JSP's at Midway. Thanks pointing me the right direction Quigley! And thanks to all who offered me their advice. __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year.