Hi point weapons? - The Firearms Forum

bang250 · 01-12-2005, 02:09 PM

What is y'alls take on hi point? Are they average, below average ect...

I was considering a .45 but wanted some input. Wouldn't be something that I would shoot very often if that matters.

fishermanben · 01-12-2005, 02:15 PM

Bang, as long as you don't plan on competing with it, or having to shoot someone with it, they will make a cheap plinker.

Ben

Mr. Blasty · 01-12-2005, 02:21 PM

You get what you pay for.

BobbyWins · 01-12-2005, 02:31 PM

I got a carbine for $100 at a pawn shop.Never expected it to compete w/my Brownings,Rugers,Remingtons,etc.But for keepin' behind the seat and not carrin' what it looks like,it's fine,and once I figured out which ammo it likes the best,it goes "BANG" every time.I can't complain.Not sure I'd want to carry onto the battle field though.

BW

ruger270man · 01-12-2005, 02:32 PM

Guns and weapons for L.E. gave a good review of their carbine, I think it was the .40 S&W model

rosierita · 01-12-2005, 03:17 PM

i got troy 1 for christmas. he said it was not as accurate as shooting the revolver he got me (taurus .357 mag w/ 38s), but he also said that the fit wasnt quite right w/ his hand.

punchie · 01-12-2005, 03:34 PM

MKS is noted for having an excellent Customer Service Depatment. Unfortunately, they are probably the most overworked. Hi-point firearms show the difference between "cheap" and inexpensive with them being "cheap". The quality of the materials used and the degree of worksmanship is cheap where inexpensive guns like the Makarov or CZ52 have quality materials and worksmansip and are a great bargin.

MVP · 01-13-2005, 02:58 AM

In my experiences with the few highpoints I have seen and firearms in general, I would save a few more dollars and buy something with a little more quality.
Or at the least, like chorkie said, Buy a quality surplus handgun at about the same price as the Hipoints are running.

IShootBack · 01-13-2005, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruger270man

Guns and weapons for L.E. gave a good review of their carbine, I think it was the .40 S&W model

Those idiots would give a potato gun a good review and make a case for having one in every patrol car in Idaho.....

Hi-point is cheap crap.

IMHO

geezler · 01-13-2005, 08:06 PM

My wife has a Hi-Point in 9MM carbine. When she got it the trigger was scratchy and heavy. A little lapping compound and some spring work made it into a nice plinker.

HiPressure · 01-25-2005, 10:18 PM

98% junk. Some that I have seen are reliable with FMJ ammo and will actually allow you to print a "group" at 25 yards, but with any good HP ammo will choke. Thanks, my Win 94 Trapper in 45 Colt will let me shoot decent groups at 100 yards and will even feed LSWC's (not to mention 300gr JSP's at some really extreme velocities), my Mini-14 will take care of the semi-auto urge, and for $400 bucks or so I can buy a decent bolt-gun for longer ranges.
As for their handgun's, run, don't walk, to the nearest store that sells used quality revolvers. You'll have something more reliable and will be able to use decent (self-defence) loads when you need them.
Just my 2 cents,
HP

Buford Allen · 02-02-2005, 05:54 AM

It seems as though this subject is met with a lot of opinion; like something else, we all have one. Here is mine. I have the carbine and pistol both in .40S&W and both have performed and functioned very well. My carbine is equipped with a Tasco 3-9x40 scope (which is a little overkill), but it is fun to shoot. It's true, you get what you pay for and the workmanship isn't the greatest, but for recreational shooting and varmint hunting mine have performed very well. I also believe that Hi-Point wouldn't put something on the market to sell to the public with a lifetime warranty if they expected a lot of them to be returned for repair. They are not for soldiers or police but they make fine weapons for anyone on a tight budget. My .02

lslubecki · 03-15-2005, 10:53 PM

A friend and I recently purchased 2-9mm a 40 cal and a 45acp from a hi point dealer. We both shot about 125 rounds of reloaded 125 gr rn lead loaded at 4.4 gn of bulls eye. About three times each the reciever didnt go all the way back and then forward to chamber the next round. We both felt that a little more powder would eliminate this problem. We will reload more and let you know. I've read that after 125-250 rounds the clip is broken in and all chambering issues will go away. No problems with the 40 and we haven't shot the 45 yet. Yes these are cheap guns. I would rather have a cheap gun than no gun at all. Just shoot it often and get a feel for it then decide for yourself. For a hundred bucks its a fun plinker.

Steve

OlcDog · 03-21-2005, 08:50 PM

The manager at my range told me he would order a Hi-Point carbine, but would NEVER sell one of their hand guns.... I bought a Rugar Carbine instead, love it...

cravnsn · 03-28-2005, 07:27 AM

Here are my experiences with both the 9mm and .40 carbines from Hi Point.

I first purchased the 9 at a gun show. I had read up on the gun from various on line forums and reviews, and it sounded like a decent buy for $175. Got a 25 round box of Wolf 115g FMJ to start with. I experienced jams right away, and thought it was due to the ammo. Next, I tried Winchester 115g FMJ and Remington 124g Golden Saber HP’s. Same problem. I experienced at least 1, and sometimes as many as 3 jams per magazine. My previous experience with auto loaders was a Browning Buckmark .22 pistol and a Remington 597 .22 rifle. Both guns gave me headaches with jamming also. I just thought it was the nature of the beast, until I called the dealer I had purchased the Hi Point from, and he assured me that should not be the case with this gun. So, I sent it in for service. I sent a detailed letter explaining the problems I had, and included pictures of a round jammed in the gun. The guy at the factory said the have a return rate of 2%. He told me what the found was wrong, replaced the bolt, slide, spring…pretty much everything except the trigger & barrel. He also said they put 150 rounds through it without further incident. When I got it back (2 weeks total turn around) I put 100 rounds through it without any problems. To me, that’s great service.

While the 9 was out being serviced, I did some reading on the differences between 9mm and .40cal rounds, and decided I wanted the better stopping power the .40 had to offer. The gun was cheap enough, so I picked one up. The .40 with 500 rounds of Winchester 165g FMJ, Win. 155 Silver Tip, Federal HP, Win. 180g FMJ – everything I have fed it has chambered, fired and ejected without incident. Accuracy is good (will be better once I overcome my natural tendency to flinch) and both guns are a lot of fun to shoot. I have laser sights on both, a 4x scope on the 9 and a 2.5x on the .40.

They are a little finicky out of the box, but with some tweaking, they are as reliable as anything else out there. On a recent trip to the local indoor range, I was seated next to a guy from the Army. He was shooting a .30-06 and came over to see what I had (the .40 at the time) he asked how much I paid, and I said two. “Two grand huh” and I said “No, 200” He was surprised. Once I had my scope sighted in, I showed him my grouping at 50 yards, and he was really impressed.
With decent arms, low price and great customer service, I will be a Hi Point customer for a long time.

offeror · 03-29-2005, 02:27 PM

I never seriously considered one of their handguns for clear reasons -- they're so big and blocky they make the Glocks look streamlined, and any gun that has to be that big to be strong enough to shoot 9 and 40 is bound to be made of soft metal. Soft metal wears quick and breaks easy, so even if it shoots in the meantime I wouldn't trust one.

I have seen enough good reviews of the carbines to believe that they probably shoot, and for the price point I think there's a market, but I'd rather have a whole lot of other guns before I'd want one of those unless somebody was giving it away very cheap.

doug · 04-20-2005, 05:44 PM

i myself have a 9mm rugger. when i first got it it jamed up on me a few times. that was do to the fact that it was new and not been been worked in yet. but now that i have put a good few rounds in it,the thing is awsome. i havent had a problem since then and i shoot it at least 4to5 times a week. be sure to clean it good after a couple hundred round or so and that think will work good for you for a long time. also the support team that hi-point has is a good group of peaple who kniw what they are doing. i had to have a new fireing pin,spring and hammer,do to my own fault. anyway they sent me those items for free, no shipping charge or anything. my opinion onthe gun is that it is agood gun.

Ruger.44 · 06-11-2005, 03:29 PM

this appears to be an opinion thread so, here goes.

I own a Hi-Point model 9C, 9mm. It really doesn't like to feed the first HP round. This only happens when I trip the slide release, not when I cycle it slowly

.

It really isn't very accurate; I've never hit the ten ring on purpose with it but, it CAN hold a 8" group at 35 Yds.

Never had a jam, never failed to cycle, prefers FMJ's over anything else.

My position, It's not my Kimber or my Sig but, I feel good about it saving my life in a pinch.

Jim

llama.45 · 06-11-2005, 03:39 PM

my friend has one in 9mm and i shot it and decided i would never ever buy one.

kingjoey · 06-16-2005, 05:37 AM

I'd like to bitch about 'em, but I got a .40 pistol and a 9mm carbine and I can't seem to break either of them or get a FTF. They are CHEAPLY made though, I'll keep throwing ammo at 'em until I break something

llama.45 · 06-16-2005, 01:09 PM

one of my buddies took his ccw test at a range that is a little ways away from here and he said that the instuctor wouldnt even let anyone take the test with a hi-point.

protector · 10-16-2005, 09:05 PM

I'm new to the forum, but I would like to say a few things about the Hi Point handguns. I've had three of them now for about 2 1/2 yrs. a 9mm, .380, and a 40 s&w. I gotta tell you, they are probably the best guns I've ever shot. About a year after I had my .380, the end of the barrel had a hairline crack. I shipped it ups to hi point, they fixed it, sent me three extra mags, and reimbursed me for my shipping. They also had it back to me within 10 days. To me, thats impressive. I had a .17 hmr rifle that had a safety problem and it was almost 3 weeks before my dealer had it back to me. Hi Point gets two thumbs up from me!

PLINKER45 · 10-18-2005, 07:27 AM

The very first pistol i bought was a 9mm HiPoint. i owned it for about a year and never had a single problem with it. It shot anyhting i put through it. The only down side to the gun was that it was a pain to take down to clean.

West · 10-18-2005, 08:23 PM

you know what they say, "you get what you pay for"

Voyager Al · 10-23-2005, 08:50 AM

I won a .45 with Laser at a gun bash last week. Took it out, along with the Glock27 I won and shot all my guns. The 45 FTE several times. I thought i had a real junker. Took it home, and cleaned and lubed it. Yesterday, my daughter and I fired 100 rounds thru it, without 1 FTE. Was firing Winchester whitebox. Accurate. As good, if not better than the Glock, at least thats what my 24YO daughter felt. I like the feel and size of the Glock. The laser is useless, unless ya shoot at night. I will remove it and look for a shoulder harness for it. Worth the $?? List was 229. I recommend it! I carry a KelTec 380 daily. The Glock on a harness when I have a vest on. That may change......

01-12-2005, 02:09 PM	#1
bang250 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East central Illinois Posts: 21	Hi point weapons? What is y'alls take on hi point? Are they average, below average ect... I was considering a .45 but wanted some input. Wouldn't be something that I would shoot very often if that matters. -->

01-12-2005, 02:15 PM	#2
fishermanben V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 197	Re: Hi point weapons? Bang, as long as you don't plan on competing with it, or having to shoot someone with it, they will make a cheap plinker. Ben

01-12-2005, 02:21 PM	#3
Mr. Blasty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Crapifornia Posts: 40	Re: Hi point weapons? You get what you pay for. __________________

01-12-2005, 02:31 PM	#4
BobbyWins V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Central Texas Posts: 337	Re: Hi point weapons? I got a carbine for $100 at a pawn shop.Never expected it to compete w/my Brownings,Rugers,Remingtons,etc.But for keepin' behind the seat and not carrin' what it looks like,it's fine,and once I figured out which ammo it likes the best,it goes "BANG" every time.I can't complain.Not sure I'd want to carry onto the battle field though. BW

01-12-2005, 02:32 PM	#5
ruger270man V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Erie, PA Posts: 187	Re: Hi point weapons? Guns and weapons for L.E. gave a good review of their carbine, I think it was the .40 S&W model __________________

01-12-2005, 03:17 PM	#6
rosierita Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,218	Re: Hi point weapons? i got troy 1 for christmas. he said it was not as accurate as shooting the revolver he got me (taurus .357 mag w/ 38s), but he also said that the fit wasnt quite right w/ his hand. __________________

01-12-2005, 03:34 PM	#7
punchie Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 784	Re: Hi point weapons? MKS is noted for having an excellent Customer Service Depatment. Unfortunately, they are probably the most overworked. Hi-point firearms show the difference between "cheap" and inexpensive with them being "cheap". The quality of the materials used and the degree of worksmanship is cheap where inexpensive guns like the Makarov or CZ52 have quality materials and worksmansip and are a great bargin. __________________ AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY

01-13-2005, 02:58 AM	#8
MVP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 44	Re: Hi point weapons? In my experiences with the few highpoints I have seen and firearms in general, I would save a few more dollars and buy something with a little more quality. Or at the least, like chorkie said, Buy a quality surplus handgun at about the same price as the Hipoints are running.

01-13-2005, 08:06 PM	#10
geezler V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 253	Re: Hi point weapons? My wife has a Hi-Point in 9MM carbine. When she got it the trigger was scratchy and heavy. A little lapping compound and some spring work made it into a nice plinker.

01-25-2005, 10:18 PM	#11
HiPressure Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 11	Re: Hi point weapons? 98% junk. Some that I have seen are reliable with FMJ ammo and will actually allow you to print a "group" at 25 yards, but with any good HP ammo will choke. Thanks, my Win 94 Trapper in 45 Colt will let me shoot decent groups at 100 yards and will even feed LSWC's (not to mention 300gr JSP's at some really extreme velocities), my Mini-14 will take care of the semi-auto urge, and for $400 bucks or so I can buy a decent bolt-gun for longer ranges. As for their handgun's, run, don't walk, to the nearest store that sells used quality revolvers. You'll have something more reliable and will be able to use decent (self-defence) loads when you need them. Just my 2 cents, HP

02-02-2005, 05:54 AM	#12
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Re: Hi point weapons? It seems as though this subject is met with a lot of opinion; like something else, we all have one. Here is mine. I have the carbine and pistol both in .40S&W and both have performed and functioned very well. My carbine is equipped with a Tasco 3-9x40 scope (which is a little overkill), but it is fun to shoot. It's true, you get what you pay for and the workmanship isn't the greatest, but for recreational shooting and varmint hunting mine have performed very well. I also believe that Hi-Point wouldn't put something on the market to sell to the public with a lifetime warranty if they expected a lot of them to be returned for repair. They are not for soldiers or police but they make fine weapons for anyone on a tight budget. My .02 __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

03-15-2005, 10:53 PM	#13
lslubecki V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 81	Re: Hi point weapons? A friend and I recently purchased 2-9mm a 40 cal and a 45acp from a hi point dealer. We both shot about 125 rounds of reloaded 125 gr rn lead loaded at 4.4 gn of bulls eye. About three times each the reciever didnt go all the way back and then forward to chamber the next round. We both felt that a little more powder would eliminate this problem. We will reload more and let you know. I've read that after 125-250 rounds the clip is broken in and all chambering issues will go away. No problems with the 40 and we haven't shot the 45 yet. Yes these are cheap guns. I would rather have a cheap gun than no gun at all. Just shoot it often and get a feel for it then decide for yourself. For a hundred bucks its a fun plinker. Steve

03-21-2005, 08:50 PM	#14
OlcDog Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7	Re: Hi point weapons? The manager at my range told me he would order a Hi-Point carbine, but would NEVER sell one of their hand guns.... I bought a Rugar Carbine instead, love it... __________________ "and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garments, and buy one" Luke 22:36

03-28-2005, 07:27 AM	#15
cravnsn Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1	Re: Hi point weapons? Here are my experiences with both the 9mm and .40 carbines from Hi Point. I first purchased the 9 at a gun show. I had read up on the gun from various on line forums and reviews, and it sounded like a decent buy for $175. Got a 25 round box of Wolf 115g FMJ to start with. I experienced jams right away, and thought it was due to the ammo. Next, I tried Winchester 115g FMJ and Remington 124g Golden Saber HP’s. Same problem. I experienced at least 1, and sometimes as many as 3 jams per magazine. My previous experience with auto loaders was a Browning Buckmark .22 pistol and a Remington 597 .22 rifle. Both guns gave me headaches with jamming also. I just thought it was the nature of the beast, until I called the dealer I had purchased the Hi Point from, and he assured me that should not be the case with this gun. So, I sent it in for service. I sent a detailed letter explaining the problems I had, and included pictures of a round jammed in the gun. The guy at the factory said the have a return rate of 2%. He told me what the found was wrong, replaced the bolt, slide, spring…pretty much everything except the trigger & barrel. He also said they put 150 rounds through it without further incident. When I got it back (2 weeks total turn around) I put 100 rounds through it without any problems. To me, that’s great service. While the 9 was out being serviced, I did some reading on the differences between 9mm and .40cal rounds, and decided I wanted the better stopping power the .40 had to offer. The gun was cheap enough, so I picked one up. The .40 with 500 rounds of Winchester 165g FMJ, Win. 155 Silver Tip, Federal HP, Win. 180g FMJ – everything I have fed it has chambered, fired and ejected without incident. Accuracy is good (will be better once I overcome my natural tendency to flinch) and both guns are a lot of fun to shoot. I have laser sights on both, a 4x scope on the 9 and a 2.5x on the .40. They are a little finicky out of the box, but with some tweaking, they are as reliable as anything else out there. On a recent trip to the local indoor range, I was seated next to a guy from the Army. He was shooting a .30-06 and came over to see what I had (the .40 at the time) he asked how much I paid, and I said two. “Two grand huh” and I said “No, 200” He was surprised. Once I had my scope sighted in, I showed him my grouping at 50 yards, and he was really impressed. With decent arms, low price and great customer service, I will be a Hi Point customer for a long time. Last edited by cravnsn; 03-28-2005 at 07:29 AM..

03-29-2005, 02:27 PM	#16
offeror Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: NE Indiana Posts: 586	Re: Hi point weapons? I never seriously considered one of their handguns for clear reasons -- they're so big and blocky they make the Glocks look streamlined, and any gun that has to be that big to be strong enough to shoot 9 and 40 is bound to be made of soft metal. Soft metal wears quick and breaks easy, so even if it shoots in the meantime I wouldn't trust one. I have seen enough good reviews of the carbines to believe that they probably shoot, and for the price point I think there's a market, but I'd rather have a whole lot of other guns before I'd want one of those unless somebody was giving it away very cheap. __________________ The Second Amendment does not exist to protect the gun rights you like. It exists to protect the gun rights you hate.

04-20-2005, 05:44 PM	#17
doug Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1	Re: Hi point weapons? i myself have a 9mm rugger. when i first got it it jamed up on me a few times. that was do to the fact that it was new and not been been worked in yet. but now that i have put a good few rounds in it,the thing is awsome. i havent had a problem since then and i shoot it at least 4to5 times a week. be sure to clean it good after a couple hundred round or so and that think will work good for you for a long time. also the support team that hi-point has is a good group of peaple who kniw what they are doing. i had to have a new fireing pin,spring and hammer,do to my own fault. anyway they sent me those items for free, no shipping charge or anything. my opinion onthe gun is that it is agood gun.

06-11-2005, 03:29 PM	#18
Ruger.44 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 55	Re: Hi point weapons? this appears to be an opinion thread so, here goes. I own a Hi-Point model 9C, 9mm. It really doesn't like to feed the first HP round. This only happens when I trip the slide release, not when I cycle it slowly . It really isn't very accurate; I've never hit the ten ring on purpose with it but, it CAN hold a 8" group at 35 Yds. Never had a jam, never failed to cycle, prefers FMJ's over anything else. My position, It's not my Kimber or my Sig but, I feel good about it saving my life in a pinch. Jim

06-11-2005, 03:39 PM	#19
llama.45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: sewanee,tennessee Posts: 406	Re: Hi point weapons? my friend has one in 9mm and i shot it and decided i would never ever buy one. __________________ chris

06-16-2005, 05:37 AM	#20
kingjoey V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: AZ Posts: 290	Re: Hi point weapons? I'd like to bitch about 'em, but I got a .40 pistol and a 9mm carbine and I can't seem to break either of them or get a FTF. They are CHEAPLY made though, I'll keep throwing ammo at 'em until I break something

06-16-2005, 01:09 PM	#21
llama.45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: sewanee,tennessee Posts: 406	Re: Hi point weapons? one of my buddies took his ccw test at a range that is a little ways away from here and he said that the instuctor wouldnt even let anyone take the test with a hi-point. __________________ chris

10-16-2005, 09:05 PM	#22
protector Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1	good product I'm new to the forum, but I would like to say a few things about the Hi Point handguns. I've had three of them now for about 2 1/2 yrs. a 9mm, .380, and a 40 s&w. I gotta tell you, they are probably the best guns I've ever shot. About a year after I had my .380, the end of the barrel had a hairline crack. I shipped it ups to hi point, they fixed it, sent me three extra mags, and reimbursed me for my shipping. They also had it back to me within 10 days. To me, thats impressive. I had a .17 hmr rifle that had a safety problem and it was almost 3 weeks before my dealer had it back to me. Hi Point gets two thumbs up from me!

10-18-2005, 07:27 AM	#23
PLINKER45 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49	Re: Hi point weapons? The very first pistol i bought was a 9mm HiPoint. i owned it for about a year and never had a single problem with it. It shot anyhting i put through it. The only down side to the gun was that it was a pain to take down to clean.

10-18-2005, 08:23 PM	#24
West V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 62	Re: Hi point weapons? you know what they say, "you get what you pay for" __________________ "Friends Dont Let Friends Buy Colts"

10-23-2005, 08:50 AM	#25
Voyager Al Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pittsburgh,Pa Posts: 16	Re: Hi point weapons? I won a .45 with Laser at a gun bash last week. Took it out, along with the Glock27 I won and shot all my guns. The 45 FTE several times. I thought i had a real junker. Took it home, and cleaned and lubed it. Yesterday, my daughter and I fired 100 rounds thru it, without 1 FTE. Was firing Winchester whitebox. Accurate. As good, if not better than the Glock, at least thats what my 24YO daughter felt. I like the feel and size of the Glock. The laser is useless, unless ya shoot at night. I will remove it and look for a shoulder harness for it. Worth the $?? List was 229. I recommend it! I carry a KelTec 380 daily. The Glock on a harness when I have a vest on. That may change......