Re: Iver Johnson Info Please! 32 S&W
when iver johnson introduced the "western walnut grip" on the third model safety automatic revolver it was considered a special order item. these were pulled off the assembly line and set aside for special serial numbering. this special serial number started at 01 and went up to over 7,000 before iver johnson stopped by about 1917. at which time iver johnson seem to have stopped the special order serial numbering series. from that point on all the special order items were taken from inventory and retro fitted with what ever feature was wanted. therefore they were serial numbered before and have the letter code of the regular production. no other serial number was added to denote special order. the only dating i can do is between 1910 and 1917. this revolver serial number '4773' was the 4773th manufactured with the special order "western walnut grip". my best guess as to the manufacture date would be 1913/1914 as this revolver has the type of cylinder retain used after 1912.
this revolver appears to be a large frame so the cylinder should have 6 chambers for the 32 and the ca;iber would be 32 S&W Long. i have several in my collection number 13 a 22 rimfire with 6 inch barrel, 2992 a 38 with 4 inch barrel, 3279 a 32 with 6 inch barrel and 6013 a 38 with 4 inch barrel. and then i hve several more that have the letter code of the regular series all dating to after 1917.
i can't explain why but those fitted with this grip seem to bring about 10% more than regular third models and a 22 rimfire with a long barrel and the "western walnut grip" will bring about 15% more.
THIRD MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMER REVOLVER
(Smokeless Powder Cartridges)--------------------1909-1941
LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION: Double top post barrel latch with Hammer the Hammer action. This model redesigned to be strong enough for smokeless powder. All coil springs, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top, optional oversize grips of hard rubber or wood were offered. Two frame sizes, four calibers, Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches. Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .32 Special centerfire with 6 rounds cylinder capacity, .38 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame .22 rimfire with 3 inch barrel 13 ounces, .32 centerfire with 3 inch barrel 13 ½ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel .32 Special 19 ounces, .38 centerfire with 3 ¼ inch barrel 18 ¼ inches; Height: small frame 3 ¾ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/16 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Third Model features a double top post barrel latch, coil hammer spring and four cross pins in the lower frame.
VALUE: 100%=$250 60%=$115
Last edited by b.goforth; 11-04-2009 at 12:16 PM..