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This is one of my other passions. besides guns,beautifulwomen,aircraft model building etc.., I bought this brand new in 1991 paid 1200.00 bucks for it and it is worth every cent I paid!
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You paid $1200 for an Epiphone?? LOL, J/K J/K I see the Gibson sticker,
Hard to beat the tone and sustain of a Les Paul, are those double Humbucker's? I can't tell from the pic, size looks right but can't tell, That IS one of the best guitar's of all time. Period. But I'll stick to my '59 re-issue Deluxe Tele w/classic Sunburst finish though, it has it's own unique sound and I love it, not the sustain of a Les Paul with double pickup's, but it does just fine, and is maybe just as popular as the LP for studio work. Last edited by 1 Eyed Jack; 11-19-2012 at 09:10 PM.. |
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Have a few geetars myself, got into custom pickups, then custom guitars, then my own custom 200 year old chestnut from some beams I tore outta a barn built on a Revolutionary War Grant in 1812; good dry old wood. Back in the days they couldn't haul nails over the mountains, used homemade wood pegs; notice the peg hole (sliced the beam with peg still in). I like the old tube amps, have a Bruno Cowtipper, sounds better than the 60's Fenders. Actually use a Twin Reverb through a rotary speaker; pretty good stuff. Hope you guitar guys like these picts. First guitar is a Kirn Signature, from Jacksonville, Fla.
![]() Here is chestnut strat with peg hole. ![]() Here is a homemade chestnut tele, I screwed her up and made a Goldtop. ![]() Old Kirn makes LP's from Chestnut too, he was trying to entice me. ![]() |
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Here is the chestnut LP.
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Very nice Mr. Zhurh, functional works of art right there, love MY Tele, but I'm jealous, those are beauitiful,
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Do the strings on a LP go through the body? or anchor on the bridge, never owned one, but suspect they go through the body like the Tele, something has to contribute to the incredible sustain of the LP, your comments? is it the kind of wood the body is made from? the pickup's? strings through the body instead of terminated on the bridge? or D) All of the above, asking a legitimate question, I really don't know for sure, all I know is a LP holds a note longer than any other guitar I have seen or played, except a guitar with active/self powered pickup's, but they don't count, that's cheating ![]() I was going to post a pic of my Dark Sunburst Tele next to it's studio mate, a '62 "P" Bass, but after seeing your pics I didn't feel like it ![]() I got my P Bass in the late '80's, the guy I got it from didn't play but had inherited it from his Dad and used to be in a band in the '70's, it was once the darker Sunburst, Like my Tele, but the freaking DUMBASS said he thought the Sunburst looked like a "hippie guitar(bass)" and took it apart and SPRAY painted it blue with automotive spray paint and put a white pickguard on it, and changed the crome volume/tone knobs to black plastic, he was at least smart enough (term used loosely) to keep the tortoise shell pickguard, and original knobs and crome bridge cover, which he gave me, The only thing that made me feel better was I stole it from him for $200 w/original hard shell Fender labeled case, I had planned to have it restored to the dark Sunburst, as it was, and will match my Tele, but the collector value would still be down 80-90% of what it should, as with guns, restored, even accurately, is NOT original condition, not to mention it would be cost prohibitive, This is an item I will never want to part with, it's just too special and one of those things that you hang onto, unless selling it would make some kind of significant difference, like putting food on the table or having our home repossessed, it's an investment, one that I'm attached to, but gotta take care of the homefront first when it comes down to it of course, Still pisses me off, more than 25 yrs later, that he did that to an iconic piece, a studio quality/standard bass and piece of '60's/'70's musical history, kind of like stripping and blueing an original 1911A1 because you didn't like the ugly green parkerizing, still functions the same but the collector value is gone, The bass seems not to have not suffered soundwise, still has the deep thunderous tone that the P bass is famous for, still has the original pickup's and cloth covered wiring inside, it just looks hideous with the spray paint job, and a poor job at that, Maybe I'll make that my next project, get out the paint stripper and see what the wood looks like underneath, maybe I can salvage it to a natural Blond look, some where made/sold that way, letting the natural wood show through and clear coat, had to be hand picked and nice looking wood, but some where made like that, I wouldn't be surprised it he didn't even use primer before the spray paint, if not the paint likely soaked into the wood grain at least to some extent, I don't want to have to sand the hell out of it, I would be worried the tone quality might be affected, I wouldn't mind if it were a little lighter, weight wise that is, it's pretty freaking heavy, and weighs on the shoulder after a couple off hrs, but I'm sure the weight/thickness is part of what gives it the tonal qualities that it still has, the original pickups play a part in that too I would imagine, I need projects right now to help maintain sanity while waiting for that next call for a job interview(been unemployed for awhile), right now I'm finishing up a facelift on my first rifle, a Nylon 66, it's been fun and interesting, some parts of the project have been so fun I did them twice , in otherwords I made some mistakes and had to re-do a couple of things during the process, not a big problem, time is something I have at the moment, I learned a thing or two because of the mistakes I made, so all good in the long run, enjoyed the project, learned some new things, and gave a treasured (first gun) a new look and lease on life, the receiver cover had some rust cancer that was not far from going all the way through the thin metal receiver cover, so something had to be done, One last thing, I DID take care of this rifle, after all it was my first one I owned, got it for Christmas in '70 or '71, but left it with my Dad when I went out into the world to make my own way, somehow it got neglected and rust started on the receiver cover and in places on the barrel, and the Nylon/Zytel stock got scratched to hell, I know he used it to train my nephew (his grandson) and probably let him borrow it while I was gone, not that I want to blame someone, it's my fault for not retrieving it for 20 yrs., but I did not expect to find it in the condition it was in, I left it cased and in good condition, looked like it got rained on a time or two and not wiped down and/or oiled when it needed it, All good, taking it apart to refinish/facelift it gave me a new appreciation for how simple the internal's were, yet functions and shoots suprisingly well, and how clean it was inside the action housing, just a little powder residue built up in a small void between the chamber opening/throat and the inside wall of the action framing/housing, cleaned it out very easily, this was the only noticable/needed cleaning areas under the action housing/cover after many years and thousands of rounds, partly due, I think, is that it requires no oil on the rails or parts if the action that moves on the rails, so no oil to attract dirt etc, in fact the instruction manual says do not oil slide or associated parts that move on the slide (it's a semi auto just for clarification), in fact there is no way to do so, unless you take it apart(remove the action cover)eats every kind of ammo it's been fed, and never a single FT fire, FT eject, FT load, nothing, ever, and it is, by far, of the guns I own, had the most rounds put through it than any other, maybe double the rounds of the next "most fired" gun I have, again I gained a new appreciation for a gun with such simple internals and design in general, and shoots surprisingly consistant, groupwise, and in general, I took many squirrel's and cottontail's with it growing up in NE, squirrel and rabbit, quartered, seasoned, browned in a cast iron skillet, then covered with cream of mushroom soup and into the oven until tender, mmm mmm, now that's comfort food for me, miss it badly, just can't seem to find squirrel at the grocery store, I just recently finished the refurb, so I'm interested to see if it still shoots the same, or better, or maybe I made it worse with my refurb/mods, I'll find out soon with a trip to the range, money is tight right now so I'm saving my change from my pockets, old school style until I have the $10 dollar fee for the range close to my house, normally I would just go up to my spot in the forest by the Rubicon Trail, but that kind of fuel usage is a luxury that doesn't work given our current budget, so I'll have to put up with hectic atmosphere of a public range if I want to get any shooting in, I did some scope swapping also, so I have a total of 3 rifles to be re-sighted in, it's all good, I could use an afternoon of distraction from things that have been happening lately, even if it is at public range, I think I could still enjoy something other than sending application after application and waiting for the damn phone to ring with the right call, When we get some sun I'll take some pics and post up the end result of my Nylon 66 refurb project, I'm sure people that collect these little rifles will be horrified at the way I refreshed this gun, too bad, it was in need of serious attention and I took it in a creative direction, the good thing is it can all be reversed with a cloth and acetone and restored to original looks if I feel the need, one thing I learned during this process is, acetone is your friend ![]() I'll post up the results of the refurb when we get some sun and I can take some outdoor pics, Guess I rambled a bit there, oh well, almost 5am, can't sleep might as well write what's on my mind at the time, if you read it all, fine, if not also fine, Guess I'll go make a pot of coffee, if I go to sleep now I'll waste a good part of the day sleeping, got plans for yardwork, the tree's have finally decided it's fall and dropped a majority of their leaves in the last few days during some fairly heavy/windy days of off and on rain, the pool has been a daily battle to keep the 3 different pre-filter debris baskets empty of leaves so the pump doesn't have to overwork itself and meltdown, can't afford any major repairs at the moment, I had a roof leak also but found the source(hole in the paper under the tiles), pulled some tiles, replaced/added some new roofing barrier/paper, did a little caulking with some 5200 for extra insurance, (man that $hit is expensive) replaced the roofing tiles and lucked out, rained 4 times since, some of it pretty heavy and no more leakage, I even went back up into the attic to be sure I hadn't just re-directed the leakage and we just haven't seen any evidence of it, but nope, whole area where the original leak was completely dry, so appears to have been a successful repair, and that's a good thing, no room in the current budget for a repairman of any kind right now, Is there an award for post rambling/subject changing? or jacking your own thread?? If so, I accept, Coffee time, caution I may get wound up from no sleep and too much coffee and start rambling again, no guarentee's, but I think I'm done for the day/morning, whatever it is by now, coffee and yardwork is calling, I'm out for now, Last edited by 1 Eyed Jack; 11-23-2012 at 07:14 AM.. |
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Hey Jack, That goldtop tele, the strings go all the way through like most. It was my first attempt at a build; ended up taking it into another for real builder to paint and finish. I just wanted a few Amer Chestnut teles; not many around. The wood I had was real good shape for being over 200 years old. I had a big beam that had been used in several barns back east in western Pa. before I got my hands on it. The LP in pict wasn't from my wood. That wood was in bad shape; wormy, but can be filled and I heard it turned out good. I was going to have Kirn in Jacksonville build me one but wifey said I have enough guitars; got a bunch around the house. Actually, had some nerve damage and it affects my playing. I can't play for hours like I use to. Got into reloading and no more $2000 custom builds; but I still play every few days.
The chestnut doesn't sound all that much better than say another tele,but I'm happy enough with it. I have a Calif tele about 20 years old in sunburst and I like that one alot too. My favorite is that chestnut strat, it plays so nice & smooth. For years, I didn't buy any new guns, bought first ARs in the 80's. Then I got into reloading and buying new guns about 6 years back. If the Repubs ever get back in, it'll be back to guitars I guess, ha. So I have my own T bench back porch range and chrono. Into reloading and so much supplies, my great grandkids, grandkids will still be killin caribou around here when they come through with what I have purchased, if she doesn't go bad on me that is. I need to start on some guns myself,another direction I guess.So far just replaced barrels ect on ARs. Anyway, guns & guitars; they all make me feel good inside. I'll post some other picts nx time I'm on photobucket. |
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I don't play as much as I once did that's for sure, I ruined my hearing in my right ear in the '80's playing in a band my position was stage left, so the band stacks and the left part of the house system was always in my right ear, this was before we became concious of hearing damage and ear protection, sadly too late, my right ear is about 90% gone, and the sounds I do hear sound like a blown speaker or like when the radio station is not quite tuned in, like Charlie Browns teacher
Now loud music I once enjoyed just plain hurts, my twin girls, who are now Sr's in HS play 5-6 instruments each, started them on piano when they were 6, and they just ran with it, one of them is planning on being a music teacher, I play with them sometimes and really enjoy it, but I can only stand so much, due to being ignorant and thinking I was indestructable when I was young, it's something I'll never get back, and I regret allowing my hearing being damaged, badly, I enjoy music more than almost anything, but seldom listen anymore, I can't imagine the hearing damage the young folks of today are going to have, with the ultra loud sytems they have in their cars in the last few years?? it's inevitable, I try to tell some of my girls HS friends about it, but I'm old and dumb, why would they listen to me, sounds familiar though I guess, that was me 30 years ago, did I listen to the voices of experience? of course not. Last edited by 1 Eyed Jack; 11-25-2012 at 02:27 AM.. |
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