22 caliber ammo question? - The Firearms Forum

Zane71464 · 01-13-2010, 11:09 AM

I have an old 22 rifle that shoots S-L-LR.
I have never shot shorts but I was digging thru some old shells and found an odd one I have never seen and was wondering if someone can tell me what it is..it's a short brass but long lead. I have the picture below and it's the one in the center.

Zane

rbking · 01-13-2010, 12:56 PM

It's modern stuff made in Mexico. 60 grain bullet. They call it "Super Sniper," or some such marketing nonsense. It's safe enough to shoot but because of the long heavy bullet not particularity accurate in guns with normal slow twist rifling.

Jim Hauff · 01-13-2010, 05:07 PM

It's made by Aguila and is called the "Sub Sonic Sniper" (SSS) round. What rb posted about the weight (60 gr) and twist rate is correct and the muzzle velocity from an 18" barrel is factory claimed at 900 fps. Because of weight, bullet carries more momentum at 100 yards than typical 40 gr. .22 bullet. Needs a faster twist rate to provide reliable stability. I've fired some from revolvers, semi-auto rifle and bolt action rifle. Best performance was from the bolt action rifle.

johnmpeters · 01-13-2010, 06:17 PM

Here's a link from a dealer, the Aguila website is under construction.

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...2112&src=tpMfg

Zane71464 · 01-14-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hauff

It's made by Aguila and is called the "Sub Sonic Sniper" (SSS) round. What rb posted about the weight (60 gr) and twist rate is correct and the muzzle velocity from an 18" barrel is factory claimed at 900 fps. Because of weight, bullet carries more momentum at 100 yards than typical 40 gr. .22 bullet. Needs a faster twist rate to provide reliable stability. I've fired some from revolvers, semi-auto rifle and bolt action rifle. Best performance was from the bolt action rifle.

Ah okay, that explains the "A" stamped on the bullet. Thats interesting and can it only be fired from a rifle marked .22 short? Or is it considered short or long? Or can it be fired from a long rifle? Sorry, just a bit confused on that. Ive never even shot any .22 other then LR.

johnmpeters · 01-14-2010, 05:23 AM

Any rifle which fires .22LR is fine. Your rifle marked S-L-LR is fine. They made the cartridge the same dimensions as a long rifle cartridge.

Zane71464 · 01-14-2010, 06:10 AM

Thank you john for clearing that up. Maybe I should have known that after shooting for years, but actually I did not.

45Auto · 01-14-2010, 05:30 PM

I learned something new. I had no idea this round was around! Thank you.

BTW. I was instructed long ago that a steady diet of shorts in a .22 LR chamber will eventually score the chamber and make it hard to eject fired LR cases.

langenc · 01-16-2010, 04:33 PM

I think its claim to fame is that it subsonic and very low bang for use in tight neighborhoods.

JLA · 01-18-2010, 08:50 PM

It shoots extremey well from my marlin 60. I like them...

01-13-2010, 11:09 AM	#1
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,371	22 caliber ammo question? I have an old 22 rifle that shoots S-L-LR. I have never shot shorts but I was digging thru some old shells and found an odd one I have never seen and was wondering if someone can tell me what it is..it's a short brass but long lead. I have the picture below and it's the one in the center. Zane Attached Images __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"! -->

01-13-2010, 12:56 PM	#2
rbking Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 24	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? It's modern stuff made in Mexico. 60 grain bullet. They call it "Super Sniper," or some such marketing nonsense. It's safe enough to shoot but because of the long heavy bullet not particularity accurate in guns with normal slow twist rifling.

01-13-2010, 05:07 PM	#3
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? It's made by Aguila and is called the "Sub Sonic Sniper" (SSS) round. What rb posted about the weight (60 gr) and twist rate is correct and the muzzle velocity from an 18" barrel is factory claimed at 900 fps. Because of weight, bullet carries more momentum at 100 yards than typical 40 gr. .22 bullet. Needs a faster twist rate to provide reliable stability. I've fired some from revolvers, semi-auto rifle and bolt action rifle. Best performance was from the bolt action rifle.

01-13-2010, 06:17 PM	#4
johnmpeters V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Interlachen, FL Posts: 134	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? Here's a link from a dealer, the Aguila website is under construction. http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...2112&src=tpMfg __________________ An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it. Bailouts: From each according to his ability, to each according to his lack thereof.

01-14-2010, 05:23 AM	#6
johnmpeters V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Interlachen, FL Posts: 134	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? Any rifle which fires .22LR is fine. Your rifle marked S-L-LR is fine. They made the cartridge the same dimensions as a long rifle cartridge. __________________ An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it. Bailouts: From each according to his ability, to each according to his lack thereof.

01-14-2010, 06:10 AM	#7
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,371	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? Thank you john for clearing that up. Maybe I should have known that after shooting for years, but actually I did not. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

01-14-2010, 05:30 PM	#8
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,121	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? I learned something new. I had no idea this round was around! Thank you. BTW. I was instructed long ago that a steady diet of shorts in a .22 LR chamber will eventually score the chamber and make it hard to eject fired LR cases.

01-16-2010, 04:33 PM	#9
langenc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 412	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? I think its claim to fame is that it subsonic and very low bang for use in tight neighborhoods.

01-18-2010, 08:50 PM	#10
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: 22 caliber ammo question? It shoots extremey well from my marlin 60. I like them... __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!