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|07-08-2003, 11:46 PM||#1|
Join Date: Jun 2001
18 year old Wins right to vote without SS #.....
18-year-old rebels against being numbered
Wins right to vote without Social Security registration
By David M. Bresnahan
LAS VEGAS, NV -- Even though government agencies tried their best to
stop him, an 18-year-old will vote for the first time in the Nov. 3
Last July, Joshua Hansen, 18, went to register to vote. A few days
later he received a letter in the mail from Kathryn Ferguson,
registrar of voters of Clark County, Nevada, rejecting his
Hansen had refused to supply a Social Security number on his
application and Ferguson rejected him as a voter.
Hansen says he does not have a Social Security number, driver's
license, or government issued ID card. He says that he never will. He
also refuses to pay income tax.
He defends his stands on these issues based on his study of the U.S.
Constitution and his religious beliefs. He says he is willing to pay
any price and will not give in to government pressure.
Hansen takes his right to vote seriously. So seriously that he took
Ferguson to court to prove his point. With the help of his uncle,
attorney Joel F. Hansen, he got the court to order Ferguson to permit
him to vote.
He belongs to the First Christian Fellowship of Eternal Sovereignty,
which he says is a political religion based on Christianity and the
Constitution which people of all denominations may join.
"It's a fellowship of anybody who's Christian who really exercises
their Christian beliefs within politics," explained Hansen in a phone
interview with WorldNetDaily.
"The Social Security number was much like the mark of the beast
talked about in the "Book of Revelations." One of the main reasons is
that it, I mean you can't buy or sell without it, it's hard to do a
lot of business without it. Have you ever tried to get a job without
one, or voting or anything? A lot of the stuff talked about in the
prophecy had come to life and I said, 'I don't want one of those.'
"Everything around Social Security is a lie. I don't want any of the
benefits from it and I don't want to pay for it. The system's going
bankrupt. Anything I pay for I'll never see anyway. It's blatantly
unlawful and unconstitutional," explained Hansen.
Living without a Social Security number is a challenge, but not a
major problem for Hansen. He has no bank account, works only for
family members who will pay him "under the table," refuses to get a
driver's license, and won't pay taxes. Recently he started his own
Internet consulting business.
He just finished high school this year and says he has very few
friends who believe as he does. He belongs to the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints.
"Because of my political beliefs," says Hansen, "I have a lot of
trouble getting along at church with a lot of my fellow members." The
members of his church believe in "The Articles of Faith," a portion
of it reads "We believe in . . . obeying, honoring, and sustaining
"They told me that the law said I had to have a number," explains
Hansen. "I said, 'This is kind of stupid because all these numbers
are obtained through the identification I already have.' When you get
a driver's license or an ID card here, basically you show them your
birth certificate, and to prove residency you write down on a little
paper what your address is and sign something that says you're not
lying, which is all you do on a voter registration thing."
Ferguson didn't like Hansen's logic. She rejected his application to
vote. Hansen contacted many elected officials for help. Some
responded and some didn't, but none were of much help so he decided
to take it to court.
"The Constitution of Nevada establishes who can vote," explained
Hansen. "If you're an idiot, you're insane, and if you don't have
residency you can't vote. That's it."
Hansen filed a Writ of Mandamus in the Clark County District Court.
The purpose was to have the court order Ferguson to register Hansen
so he can vote.
Nevada law states that the "County Clerk shall require a person to
submit official identification as proof of residence and identity,
such as a driver's license or other official document before
Hansen presented a diploma from high school and a birth certificate,
but Ferguson demanded a Social Security card, driver's license, or a
state ID card.
Hansen does not have those items and in his petition to the court his
attorney stated, "therefore, he presented alternative identification
to the Registrar of Voters, but his right to register to vote was
refused and denied by the county registrar of voters."
Hansen was more surprised than anyone when his petition was granted
by the court. "I didn't think I'd win," he said. On Oct. 19, the
court ordered Ferguson to register Hansen to vote, and he now plans
to cast his first ballot on Nov. 3.
This may be just the first of many battles ahead for Hansen. He does
drive a car, and does not plan to get a license.
"The government has no right to regulate who can and cannot drive
unless they have proven themselves to be a danger to the community
and have been convicted by 12 informed jurors," wrote Hansen in an
e-mail message to WorldNetDaily.
"Assuming that everyone is already a danger and by telling us we must
have a license to drive is known better as 'prior restraint' and
according to the U.S. Supreme Court is unconstitutional."
Hansen also objects to the current law which will implement a
national ID card on Oct. 1, 2000. He says that Congress passed the
law using illegal immigration control as the excuse.
"The even more ironic twist is that most of the illegal immigrants
coming here are filtering from Mexico trying to reap the socialist
benefits offered by the federal government. Welfare, government
schools, health care, social security, etc. If you want to stop
illegal immigration bring back the American way of work hard and
succeed as opposed to show up and leech off the tax payers," wrote
He concluded his e-mail by saying, "There is nothing they can ever do
to make me surrender my personal freedom, nothing. I don't know a lot
of people who exercise freedom to the point of fanaticism I do. I
will not pay federal income tax, I will not be marked my their
unconstitutional anti-Christ numbers. I will not take any of their
socialist benefits. I will not bow before any bureaucracy. I will not
surrender my God-given freedom to those bastards for any reason."
Anyone who has been enumerated at birth can "opt out" when they turn 18!!
If you don't inform the Social Security Administration they ASSUME that you
want to continue with the number that was assigned at birth!! Because they
do not tell you anything about this, it is constructive FRAUD!!
Write to them and tell them that you do not want their number and you reject
enumeration!! Send the letter to them by Registered or Certified Mail,
return receipt requested because they might not acknowledge it.
|07-09-2003, 07:28 AM||#2|
Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Good for Joshua Hansen! I'm shocked that he won that court battle. Pleased, but shocked.
|07-10-2003, 06:35 AM||#4|
Join Date: Mar 2003
Makes me wonder if this article is several years old...
Last edited by mtaylor; 07-10-2003 at 06:36 AM..