Interpol???

[38 special]

Has anyone heard about this interpole(spelling)? I heard on a conservative talk show that Obama by executive order created or aproved this interpole which is supposedly a UN force that can come in to the US and "keep order" without following our Constitution?? What's up with that and do you know any more about it??

[bcj1755]

Interpol is the enforcement arm of the International Criminal Court. Back in the 80s, Reagan signed an executive order allowing Interpol some aspects of something similar to dipolmatic immunity, but they were still bound by US law and by the Constitution while operating on US soil, i..e, they had to have a warrant to conduct a search, they could not conduct questioning without an attorney present, etc. Obama recently signed an EO allowing Interpol complete diplomatic immunity and allowing them to operate outside the autority of the Constitution, i.e., warrentless searches, etc. And there is nothing that any US citizen can do about it. Interpol can now violate our rights and we have absolutely no recourse. The FBI cannot even intervene in an Interpol investigation now.

[ponycar17]

Originally Posted by bcj1755

...Interpol can now violate our rights and we have absolutely no recourse....

Oh yes we do have recourse. I don't know about you but anyone offering to search my house outside the rights guaranteed to me in the 4th Amendment is subject to be treated as an intruder.

[sweetokole]

I am NOT talking about REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT,, I am talking about a Rouge man called "our President"

Subject: U.S. placed under Interpol authority and jurisdiction by Presidential Fiat

Read it directly on the White House.gov website.

I'm sending the #2 e-mail on this with the White House website as a link,, READ IT


Read and Weep For Your Country . . .



The White House
Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release

December 17, 2009
Executive Order -- Amending Executive Order 12425

EXECUTIVE ORDER
- - - - - - -
AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 16, 2009.
In the dead of night on December 17, 2009, President Barack Hussein Obama placed the United States of America under the authority of the international police organization known as INTERPOL, granting the organization full immunity to operate within the United States.

Last Thursday, December 17, 2009, The White House released an Executive Order "Amending Executive Order 12425." It grants INTERPOL (International Criminal Police Organization) a new level of full diplomatic immunity afforded to foreign embassies and select other "International Organizations" as set forth in the United States International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.

By removing language from President Reagan's 1983 Executive Order 12425, this international law enforcement body now operates - now operates - on American soil beyond the reach of our own top law enforcement arm, the FBI, and is immune from Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

What, exactly does this mean? It means that INTERPOL now has the full authority to conduct investigations and other law enforcement activities on U.S. soil, with full immunity from U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act and with complete independence from oversight from the FBI.

In short, a global law enforcement entity now has full law-enforcement authority in the U.S. without any check on its power afforded by U.S. law and U.S. law enforcement agencies.

A bit of background is in order here, and Hot Air provides it:

During his presidency, Ronald Reagan granted the global police agency Interpol the status of diplomatic personnel in order to engage more constructively on international law enforcement. In Executive Order 12425, Reagan made two exceptions to that status. The first had to do with taxation, but the second was to make sure that Interpol had the same accountability for its actions as American law enforcement — namely, they had to produce records when demanded by courts and could not have immunity for their actions.
Barack Obama unexpectedly revoked those exceptions in a change to EO 12425 last (week)...

Thus, Interpol now can conduct its operations on U.S. soil with ZERO accountability to anyone in this country.

And you beginning to understand now just what the 'end game' is on the part of those who are currently running the U.S. Government?

Let's go a step further in fleshing out exactly what this means in practical terms. It gets ugly...and scary. Again, from ThreatsWatch:

Section 2c of the United States International Organizations Immunities Act is the crucial piece.

Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable. (Emphasis added.)

Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens' Freedom of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.")
Property and assets being immune from search and confiscation means precisely that. Wherever they may be in the United States. This could conceivably include human assets - Americans arrested on our soil by INTERPOL officers.

Why would INTERPOL be arresting American citizens on our own soil, without oversight from our own law enforcement agencies? And remember, citizens who are thusly arrested would have no legal authority to demand full documentation from the International Police concerning the charges brought against them.

Andy McCarthy at National Review asks these crucial, sobering questions of the secretive Obama order:

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

At least one answer to these questions is very clear. A coup is underway in the United States of America, the goal of which is to establish complete, unquestioned authority over the citizens--a 'fundamental change' to the United States where citizens have no legal recourse against an authoritarian central government.

Don't believe me ? From the White House website .

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ve-order-12425

[Marlin T]

They won't be above this;

Is he TRYING to force the hands of revolution?

[walien]

Read about it on snopes....

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?p=1121260

Of course, as they point out, this immunity has been around since 1983. Was it a Democrat or Republican in the White House at that point? There's a reason why people leave things like this out. They have a vested interest in getting people of a certain belief system riled up.

[ampaterry]

Yesterday, I edited the name of this thread from 'Iterpole' to 'Interpol', and evidently I accidentally locked the thread in that process.
Sorry, guys -
I will be baring my back to your lashes at noon today in penance.

[rentalguy1]

Originally Posted by walien

Read about it on snopes....

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?p=1121260

Of course, as they point out, this immunity has been around since 1983. Was it a Democrat or Republican in the White House at that point? There's a reason why people leave things like this out. They have a vested interest in getting people of a certain belief system riled up.

The EO that Reagan signed was in line with the requirements places on all other LE agencies. This one gets rid of all of that and lets Interpol do whatever they want in this country without adhering to the constitution. I am beginning to believe that Walien is just another troll who deserves to be on my iggy list. It is much safer that way, so I don't risk getting the boot for verbally "b" slapping a dumba$$. His posts as of this morning have urged me to go out and find the first Obama/Biden sticker I see and defile it and give the owner hell!

[Trouble 45-70]

'Let the Disappearances of Obama Critics begin'.

When does "self criticism" begin?

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by ampaterry

Yesterday, I edited the name of this thread from 'Iterpole' to 'Interpol', and evidently I accidentally locked the thread in that process.
Sorry, guys -
I will be baring my back to your lashes at noon today in penance.

Ok, we'll drag you out back in exactly 24 minutes

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by walien

Read about it on snopes....

http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?p=1121260

Of course, as they point out, this immunity has been around since 1983. Was it a Democrat or Republican in the White House at that point? There's a reason why people leave things like this out. They have a vested interest in getting people of a certain belief system riled up.

Try reading what was posted before you start blabbering your pro-Obama bilge

Here, I'll highlight it for you and make it easy...

During his presidency, Ronald Reagan granted the global police agency Interpol the status of diplomatic personnel in order to engage more constructively on international law enforcement. In Executive Order 12425, Reagan made two exceptions to that status. The first had to do with taxation, but the second was to make sure that Interpol had the same accountability for its actions as American law enforcement — namely, they had to produce records when demanded by courts and could not have immunity for their actions.

And here it is in legalese...

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

So now, thanks to your hero, messiah, and Dear Leader, INTERPOL can now operate outside of the Constitution on US soil.

Geez, quit drinking the Kool-Aid. When will you Obama worshipping lemmings wake up, open your eyes, and see that the man is trying his level best to destroy this country and reshap it into some kind of marxist workers' paradise and part of a single global government?

[new308handloader]

Originally Posted by Marlin T

They won't be above this;

Is he TRYING to force the hands of revolution?

I am scared that a revolution is on the way.....I've got that funny feeling in my gut that I believe is my "flight or fight" bodies reaction...but it's not funny.

[Double D]

Bcj, we are dealing with a mindset that is hard to understand. You will never get thru to them. There is a wall that has been put in place that cannot be penetrated. There is no reasoning. I have attempted to break thru. I even convinced myself not long ago that I might "reason" with them. I dont know where I ever came up with that. There has been a brainwashing that has taken place. Almost a programming of sorts. They will be screaming bloody murder when they are plowed over in 10 & 12. Trust me.

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by Double D

Bcj, we are dealing with a mindset that is hard to understand. You will never get thru to them. There is a wall that has been put in place that cannot be penetrated. There is no reasoning. I have attempted to break thru. I even convinced myself not long ago that I might "reason" with them. I dont know where I ever came up with that. There has been a brainwashing that has taken place. Almost a programming of sorts. They will be screaming bloody murder when they are plowed over in 10 & 12. Trust me.

Oh, I know. Liberals are like Borg Drones, they blindly follow their leader, obey what they're told to do, and don't think for themselves. If Obama told them to march off a cliff, they'd line up like lemmings and start walking.

[45nut]

Well, now I think I know who the Brown Shirts are going to be.

Thanks, I was already feeling blue because of his other actions and now I really think he's trying to push the revol.ution button for sure.

So, Phamr........what do you think about this idea?? I already know what walien thinks, or rather, doesn't think, he just spews Moaist views all over everyone.

I think something's about to hit the big fan bcj!!!!!!!

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by 45nut

Well, now I think I know who the Brown Shirts are going to be.

Thanks, I was already feeling blue because of his other actions and now I really think he's trying to push the revol.ution button for sure.

So, Phamr........what do you think about this idea?? I already know what walien thinks, or rather, doesn't think, he just spews Moaist views all over everyone.

I think something's about to hit the big fan bcj!!!!!!!

You might be right. I hope you're not, but I'm afraid you may be right.

[ponycar17]

That explains a lot. I was wondering... No problem ampaterry...

[ponycar17]

Originally Posted by Marlin T

Is he TRYING to force the hands of revolution?

I've been pondering that possibility myself. This was my response regarding that issue in another thread.

Originally Posted by ponycar17

That's what is really amazing. It's almost as if they're provoking unrest intentionally, isn't it?... The more they ignore the protesters the angrier the protests become.

And what would that buy them?... Martial Law and a police state...

I recall Rahm Emanuel's comments immediately after the election...

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.... And what I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before..."
-Rahm Emanuel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yeA_kHHLow

[ponycar17]

And here's another take on it from Bob Owens at pajamasmedia...

Obama Surrenders U.S. Sovereignty: His INTERPOL Executive Order
Posted By Bob Owens On December 28, 2009 @ 12:08 am In . Positioning, Homeland Security, Legal, US News, World News | 150 Comments

At ThreatsWatch.org, Steve Schippert and Clyde Middleton have dug up the bizarre and unsettling issuance of an executive order recently signed by President Barack Obama. Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425 [1], signed December 16 and released a day later, grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) rights on American soil that place it beyond the reach of our own law enforcement agencies, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Schippert and Middleton note [2] that Obama’s order removes protections placed upon INTERPOL by President Reagan in 1983. Obama’s order gives the group the authority to avoid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests — which means this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against governmental abuse. “Property and assets,” including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations and records are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities.

If the president of the United States has an aboveboard reason for making a foreign law enforcement agency exempt from American laws on American soil, it wasn’t shared by the White House.

Andy McCarthy, former assistant United States attorney for the Southern District of New York and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, notes at National Review [3] that the limitations that Obama removed are “what prevents law-enforcement and its controlling government authority from becoming tyrannical.”

A paragraph later, McCarthy describes Obama’s actions in the starkest of terms:

This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.

Some bloggers covering this story are noting that the law enforcement agency to which Obama has extended such extraordinary powers to has had a dismal past.

INTERPOL’s senior leadership was flush with Nazis [4] from the late 1930s all the way into the 1970s. That fact allowed, going Godwin [5] isn’t necessarily relevant to today’s organization. Khoo Boon Hui of Singapore is the current president of the organization, and the current secretary general is American Ronald Noble. Noble is perhaps best known in America for overseeing the Treasury Department’s review of the disastrous 1993 raid and siege of a Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, that left nearly 80 people dead. Noble had cautioned against the initial raid plan as being too dangerous, but the lack of any significant ramifications for federal officials that approved of the raid and allegations of a cover-up have inspired conspiracy theorists [6] to derisively dub Noble “the Enforcer.”

But INTERPOL’s past isn’t what concerns us at this moment. Its current actions and the actions of our president are those that we question.
With the flourish of a pen and no warning at all, Barack Obama surrendered American sovereignty to an international force with a checkered past. To what end?

The consensus opinion among those commenting on this development is that the most radical president in American history seems to be intent on submitting American citizens to the whims of the International Criminal Court (ICC). Previous administrations have been very leery of signing onto agreements that would make citizens susceptible to the ICC, due to the possibility that U.S. servicemen could be dragged into show war crimes trials. Such events are obviously heavily politicized, and demands for war crimes arrests can come from any government, even those that sponsor terrorism or genocide themselves.

No finer point can be made about the endemic problems of the INTERPOL/ICC than that made by a recent diplomatic incident [7] that erupted in Great Britain, where an Israeli government official had to cancel travel plans to England because of an arrest warrant issued by an English judge — because of Iranian charges of Israeli war crimes in Gaza. The brief but intense conflict was one Iran helped instigate, as the Persians supplied the terrorists in Gaza with the rockets they used against Israeli civilians, triggering an inevitable Israeli response.

If President Obama and his radical allies in the Democratic leadership have their way, American soldiers could presumably be brought up on charges as war criminals by enemy nations and marked for arrest and deportation by an international police force on American soil. They would face charges in a foreign land without the constitutional protections they fought and bled to protect. The White House seems to be on the bewildering path of giving al-Qaeda terrorists who murder innocent women and children more legal protection than the very soldiers that risk their lives trying to bring terrorists to justice. The asinine court-martial charges being brought against three Navy SEALs based upon the word of a terrorist they captured suddenly make a sickening kind of sense [8].

It also stands to reason that Obama’s seeming willingness to put American soldiers’ lives in the hands of a corrupt international community could also be brought to bear against his political enemies. Foreign investigators of dubious intent, and our own left-wing extremists, have long branded officials of the previous administration “war criminals” for actions they’d taken in the war on terror. It is entirely conceivable — perhaps even likely — that these same organizations and enemy governments that went after 25 Israeli government officials [9] through INTERPOL and the ICC would quickly move to indict a wish list of current and former U.S. government officials for alleged “war crimes.” Former President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney would obviously be at the top of such a list of politically motivated suspects, but such a list could just as easily include General David Petraeus, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressmen, and senators.

As the Iranian gambit has shown, Obama’s bizarre assault on U.S. sovereignty could have disastrous repercussions. We can only hope that his fetish for weakening this nation can be stopped before American politicians and servicemen are made pawns by our enemies.

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[Trouble 45-70]

Wonder how well Interpol will fare kicking in the door of Bubba Redneck.

Will Sheriff Joe Arpaio arrest Bubba Redneck for protecting his home from invasion?

How many Obama programs and documents are going to be hid away from public scrutiny in the Interpol offices?

It wont be long before we need an Interpol building larger and better equipped than the Pentagon.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

WNDs take: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=120363

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by Trouble 45-70

Wonder how well Interpol will fare kicking in the door of Bubba Redneck.

Will Sheriff Joe Arpaio arrest Bubba Redneck for protecting his home from invasion?

How many Obama programs and documents are going to be hid away from public scrutiny in the Interpol offices?

It wont be long before we need an Interpol building larger and better equipped than the Pentagon.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

WNDs take: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=120363

I dont think its gona be like that. Me thinks they going to cut down the food and starve you. A person with an empty stomach is gona give in quick. Why do you think they shut down all the farms in california? Over a stupid fish?

[zkovach]

Its just amazing how backwards this president is. In my opinion it is obvious he hates America for what it is and stands for.

[45nut]

Originally Posted by cycloneman

I dont think its gona be like that. Me thinks they going to cut down the food and starve you. A person with an empty stomach is gona give in quick. Why do you think they shut down all the farms in california? Over a stupid fish?

You know, for a cajun, you are very astute.........

(I'm originally from way up north in Shreveport)

I fear you may be onto something there.

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by 45nut

You know, for a cajun, you are very astute.........

(I'm originally from way up north in Shreveport)

I fear you may be onto something there.

Just cause I live here doesn't mean i am a cajun. However I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[hogger129]

Pssh... This is bull****. They should not be giving Interpol this authority. The FBI is there to handle this stuff in our own country. It sounds like what the CIA has done for years. They can do whatever they want, they don't have to tell anybody anything or disclose any information because it's "national security." I've never been more ashamed.