What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? - The Firearms Forum

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 05:48 PM

I was given this about 10 years ago and was told it would be worth something eventually. It's a Winchester Model 75. In comparison to the ones on --- ------ i would say it's in pretty damn good shape. It has the original sling and 8x power scope. I've only shot it a handful of times and it shoots unbelievably. Anyways, I'm looking to sell it because i have no use for it, if it was a .270 pre-64 featherweight that i could kill some game worth a picture i would be hanging on to it. I have limited time and hunting squirrels isn't my gig. Any input from the gurus i would appreciate!!

wonderwhippet · 06-21-2011, 06:41 PM

That's a nice rifle and it seems to be in fine condition, though it is hard to tell from the photos. Normally it would be worth about $450, but it appears that it has been drilled and tapped for scope mounts, and this would decrease the value. Also, the factory sights have been removed, thus devaluing the rifle even further. So I would guess the value of the rifle is about $275 in its present configuration. On the other hand, if that antique scope is in good working order, it is worth at least $100, so I would place a value on this rig at around $400.

300 H&H · 06-21-2011, 08:38 PM

wonderwhippet,

Usually I agree with you. But this is Winchester 8X (quite powerful in it's day) target scope, and the 75 was so furnished with them from the Winchester factory. It is listed in the Standard Catalog Of Firearms, but in the pricing they do not list a price for this version. I would be very carefull as to the value, and further reasearch needs to be done to find out if one has sold in recent times at auction...Check the online sites for "factory scoped Winchester 75 target"

They are quite rare to come across I know that. The scope is not anything like todays, but if the glass is clear they are quite usable...

I'll look around as well...

Best regards, Kirk

Sarge756 · 06-21-2011, 09:17 PM

Will have to respectfully disagree with the senior member.Newbee to the forum but not to Winchester 75`s. Seems in the last 4 or 5 years the 75`s have had a resurgence in popularity.In the case of your rifle you have a desirable combination.The scope mounted on it is an 8x Winchester scope made from 1939-45.There should be no other markings besides 8X with Winchester stamped on the mounts. This was one of the last scopes made by Winchester and reintroduced specifically for the Model 75. Your gun was drilled and tapped at the factory for the block bases the scope is mounted to so there is no loss of value cause "Bubba " didn`t do it. The scope alone is in the 250-350 range and the rifle would be in that area or higher.The original target sling also adds value. Your photos make it a bit hard to judge condition so bear that in mind . As to the original sights if you keep on the lookout on Fleabay and the gun auction sites you may find a set.The front sight comes up from time to time and is nicknamed the postal sight because of it`s high figure and a shape like an old mail box. Last one I bought couple years back was $35.00 I`m not in the market at the moment as I have a 75 and two 52`s and also have two of the 8x scopes.By the way that scope is brass and has a japaned finish.They do dent fairly easily so handle with care.Unless you are hurting for the cash you should consider holding on to it.Like real estate they ain`t making no more of them. Joe

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 10:54 PM

Gentleman,

Thanks for responding to my post. All input is greatly appreciated. In response: I have seen these things go on BrandX among other sites from anywhere in the ballpark of $500-$2000. I was considering taking it to the local boys and selling it, but now there's no chance in hell of that. This thing seems to be in pretty good condition with regards to how old it is, the stock isn't scratched up to bad at all, and the bluing ain't bad either.

The scope has a thick set of crosshairs. It's not quite a Swarovski Z6, but i wouldn't shy away from using it for small game at all, in fact i used it a couple years ago and was amazed at how accurate it was. So all in all the scope is usable and i've seen worse on a few of my buddies deer rifles.

SO, i'd like to still sell it, i'm not hurting for cash, but i really just want to get a baseline of EXACTLY what it's worth. I don't want someone stealing from me. There's a lot of other toys i need to get, i have always wanted an old model 70 featherweight, and i'll probably put this towards that. Anyways i threw up some new pictures ..numerous...check em out.....thanks!

300 H&H · 06-21-2011, 10:54 PM

For a 75 Target, The Standard catalog of firearms lists exc.condition $900, Vg at $700 good at $600, fair at $500 and poor condition at $200.....

But the economy is what it is as well. There is currently a 75 Sporter with an older version of this scope on GB right now. The auction ends after lunch tommarrow. It is a supposed "Special order"with 3X wood and the scope. will be interesting to see what it brings. The book says a pristine 75 Sporter is now a $2K proposition, standard production.

Hope this helps,

Kirk

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 10:56 PM

Chamber

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 10:57 PM

Stock

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 10:57 PM

Stock again

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 10:58 PM

stock

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 11:00 PM

again

Luftwafel2 · 06-21-2011, 11:01 PM

last one

300 H&H · 06-21-2011, 11:31 PM

It's looking alot more like a $1K + change rifle all the time....

Regards, Kirk

Luftwafel2 · 06-22-2011, 12:53 AM

Someone has the same Model 75 i have on BrandX for $750 buy it now and frankly mine looks to be in better shape.

Now for my next question....Do you guys think it would be worth it to send it off to a Gunsmith and have the bluing touched up and make it as near perfect as possible?

How about refinishing the stock? Sand out the small nicks or just leave as is?

300 H&H · 06-22-2011, 06:21 AM

DO NOT TOUCH UP THIS RIFLE

It will harm the value you have. It is in good enough shape as is. Give some one even the idea that it has been reblued/refinished and the value is half of what an untouched example is worth. The stock finish is a dead give away, unless done by a pro. Same for bluing. It could be done, but would cost as much as your rifle is worth, and it would not be original. Best just leave it alone. JMHO...

Regards, Kirk

goofy · 06-22-2011, 06:48 AM

I agree with 300H&H DO NOT REFINISH OR TOUCH UP! A gun is worth more in original cond.even if it is not 100%..............GOOFY

Luftwafel2 · 06-22-2011, 11:40 AM

$1200 Bucks! That may be maximum value, do you think someone is really going to pay that?

Bert H. · 06-22-2011, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luftwafel2

$1200 Bucks! That may be maximum value, do you think someone is really going to pay that?

Yes, I do. Intact factory scoped Model 75 Target Rifles are not exactly easy to find these days.

Bert H.

Jim Hauff · 06-22-2011, 12:00 PM

Bert's the man when it comes to Winchester's - ID, AGE and VALUES.

Luftwafel2 · 06-26-2011, 01:51 AM

I stopped by the local gun shop today with the gun just for entertainment to see what they would give it to me. The shop pointed me to their "expert".

He insisted that the scope was NOT FACTORY. Also insisted that the gun was not worth more than about $200 bucks to them. He offered me $200, then $300, then $400....and i said thanks but no thanks.

300 H&H · 06-26-2011, 09:26 AM

$200 then 3 then $400.....I bet all kinds of things were going through his head, IF he really knew what he was looking at. But after doubling his offer, he really couldn't go any farther, as this would tell you what a cheat he really is. Most gun shop owners are honest folk IMHO, but some are out right cheats, and will take anyone who comes through the door, if they can. Knowledge is power, and they think the average guy walking in the door has none. With forums such as this one, you can arm your self with some knowledge. To bad for the gun shop, as I bet your not going to be a regular customer there. I know I wouldn't be....

Best regards, Kirk

PS...You should show the shop owner this thread for entertainment, just to see what the so called "expert" doesn't know....

Luftwafel2 · 08-22-2011, 11:54 PM

I posted my gun in the sell trade forum, i'm going to let it sit their for a few days. If no hits then by the end of the week i'll be heading for ****. So as far as **** goes...after you sell it all you gotta do is send it to an FFL dealer and your good to go as far as legalities are concerned correct?

duck32man · 08-23-2011, 09:53 AM

Let us know how you do.

3/2 STA SS · 08-24-2011, 08:19 AM

Please do because I will sell mine for $1000 and my 52B for $3000 in that case.
It would be FTF in Florida only.

alphaman724 · 12-06-2011, 09:30 PM

I received these rifles 15 years ago and just found them in a closet and would like to sell to an interested party that would value them more than I.

1)Winchester 69A
2) Winchester 75 Serial 16984
3)J Stevens Arms Co MOdel 1915 Serial Z793
4) Marlin Firearms Model 883 Serial 10669818
5) Remington Model 6
6) Can't see a mfg but it looks old time vintage Serial OT-51659

302-442-8494

I'll need to take better photos but here are a few at Photobucket and individually below. Thanks.

http://photobucket.com/6Rifles4sale

06-21-2011, 05:48 PM	#1
Luftwafel2 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 13	What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? I was given this about 10 years ago and was told it would be worth something eventually. It's a Winchester Model 75. In comparison to the ones on --- ------ i would say it's in pretty damn good shape. It has the original sling and 8x power scope. I've only shot it a handful of times and it shoots unbelievably. Anyways, I'm looking to sell it because i have no use for it, if it was a .270 pre-64 featherweight that i could kill some game worth a picture i would be hanging on to it. I have limited time and hunting squirrels isn't my gig. Any input from the gurus i would appreciate!! Attached Images --> Last edited by Double D; 06-22-2011 at 09:07 AM.. Reason: Name of another site not allowed here

06-21-2011, 06:41 PM	#2
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,583	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? That's a nice rifle and it seems to be in fine condition, though it is hard to tell from the photos. Normally it would be worth about $450, but it appears that it has been drilled and tapped for scope mounts, and this would decrease the value. Also, the factory sights have been removed, thus devaluing the rifle even further. So I would guess the value of the rifle is about $275 in its present configuration. On the other hand, if that antique scope is in good working order, it is worth at least $100, so I would place a value on this rig at around $400.

06-21-2011, 08:38 PM	#3
300 H&H Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,796	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? wonderwhippet, Usually I agree with you. But this is Winchester 8X (quite powerful in it's day) target scope, and the 75 was so furnished with them from the Winchester factory. It is listed in the Standard Catalog Of Firearms, but in the pricing they do not list a price for this version. I would be very carefull as to the value, and further reasearch needs to be done to find out if one has sold in recent times at auction...Check the online sites for "factory scoped Winchester 75 target" They are quite rare to come across I know that. The scope is not anything like todays, but if the glass is clear they are quite usable... I'll look around as well... Best regards, Kirk Last edited by 300 H&H; 06-21-2011 at 08:40 PM..

06-21-2011, 09:17 PM	#4
Sarge756 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: N.Florida Posts: 29	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? Will have to respectfully disagree with the senior member.Newbee to the forum but not to Winchester 75`s. Seems in the last 4 or 5 years the 75`s have had a resurgence in popularity.In the case of your rifle you have a desirable combination.The scope mounted on it is an 8x Winchester scope made from 1939-45.There should be no other markings besides 8X with Winchester stamped on the mounts. This was one of the last scopes made by Winchester and reintroduced specifically for the Model 75. Your gun was drilled and tapped at the factory for the block bases the scope is mounted to so there is no loss of value cause "Bubba " didn`t do it. The scope alone is in the 250-350 range and the rifle would be in that area or higher.The original target sling also adds value. Your photos make it a bit hard to judge condition so bear that in mind . As to the original sights if you keep on the lookout on Fleabay and the gun auction sites you may find a set.The front sight comes up from time to time and is nicknamed the postal sight because of it`s high figure and a shape like an old mail box. Last one I bought couple years back was $35.00 I`m not in the market at the moment as I have a 75 and two 52`s and also have two of the 8x scopes.By the way that scope is brass and has a japaned finish.They do dent fairly easily so handle with care.Unless you are hurting for the cash you should consider holding on to it.Like real estate they ain`t making no more of them. Joe

06-21-2011, 10:54 PM	#5
Luftwafel2 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 13	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? Gentleman, Thanks for responding to my post. All input is greatly appreciated. In response: I have seen these things go on BrandX among other sites from anywhere in the ballpark of $500-$2000. I was considering taking it to the local boys and selling it, but now there's no chance in hell of that. This thing seems to be in pretty good condition with regards to how old it is, the stock isn't scratched up to bad at all, and the bluing ain't bad either. The scope has a thick set of crosshairs. It's not quite a Swarovski Z6, but i wouldn't shy away from using it for small game at all, in fact i used it a couple years ago and was amazed at how accurate it was. So all in all the scope is usable and i've seen worse on a few of my buddies deer rifles. SO, i'd like to still sell it, i'm not hurting for cash, but i really just want to get a baseline of EXACTLY what it's worth. I don't want someone stealing from me. There's a lot of other toys i need to get, i have always wanted an old model 70 featherweight, and i'll probably put this towards that. Anyways i threw up some new pictures ..numerous...check em out.....thanks! Attached Images Last edited by Shooter45; 06-22-2011 at 05:19 AM.. Reason: By passing auto censor is NOT ALLOWED

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06-21-2011, 11:31 PM	#13
300 H&H Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,796	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? It's looking alot more like a $1K + change rifle all the time.... Regards, Kirk

06-22-2011, 12:53 AM	#14
Luftwafel2 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 13	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? Someone has the same Model 75 i have on BrandX for $750 buy it now and frankly mine looks to be in better shape. Now for my next question....Do you guys think it would be worth it to send it off to a Gunsmith and have the bluing touched up and make it as near perfect as possible? How about refinishing the stock? Sand out the small nicks or just leave as is?

06-22-2011, 06:21 AM	#15
300 H&H Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,796	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? DO NOT TOUCH UP THIS RIFLE It will harm the value you have. It is in good enough shape as is. Give some one even the idea that it has been reblued/refinished and the value is half of what an untouched example is worth. The stock finish is a dead give away, unless done by a pro. Same for bluing. It could be done, but would cost as much as your rifle is worth, and it would not be original. Best just leave it alone. JMHO... Regards, Kirk

06-22-2011, 06:48 AM	#16
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,018	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? I agree with 300H&H DO NOT REFINISH OR TOUCH UP! A gun is worth more in original cond.even if it is not 100%..............GOOFY

06-22-2011, 11:40 AM	#17
Luftwafel2 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 13	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? $1200 Bucks! That may be maximum value, do you think someone is really going to pay that?

06-22-2011, 12:00 PM	#19
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? Bert's the man when it comes to Winchester's - ID, AGE and VALUES. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

06-26-2011, 01:51 AM	#20
Luftwafel2 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 13	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? I stopped by the local gun shop today with the gun just for entertainment to see what they would give it to me. The shop pointed me to their "expert". He insisted that the scope was NOT FACTORY. Also insisted that the gun was not worth more than about $200 bucks to them. He offered me $200, then $300, then $400....and i said thanks but no thanks.

06-26-2011, 09:26 AM	#21
300 H&H Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,796	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? $200 then 3 then $400.....I bet all kinds of things were going through his head, IF he really knew what he was looking at. But after doubling his offer, he really couldn't go any farther, as this would tell you what a cheat he really is. Most gun shop owners are honest folk IMHO, but some are out right cheats, and will take anyone who comes through the door, if they can. Knowledge is power, and they think the average guy walking in the door has none. With forums such as this one, you can arm your self with some knowledge. To bad for the gun shop, as I bet your not going to be a regular customer there. I know I wouldn't be.... Best regards, Kirk PS...You should show the shop owner this thread for entertainment, just to see what the so called "expert" doesn't know.... Last edited by 300 H&H; 06-26-2011 at 09:29 AM..

08-22-2011, 11:54 PM	#22
Luftwafel2 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 13	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? I posted my gun in the sell trade forum, i'm going to let it sit their for a few days. If no hits then by the end of the week i'll be heading for **. So as far as ** goes...after you sell it all you gotta do is send it to an FFL dealer and your good to go as far as legalities are concerned correct? Last edited by Shooter45; 08-30-2011 at 04:55 AM.. Reason: By Passing Auto Censor is NOT ALLOWED

08-23-2011, 09:53 AM	#23
duck32man V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Anti-Gun, Illinois Posts: 172	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? Let us know how you do.

08-24-2011, 08:19 AM	#24
3/2 STA SS Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 1,435	Re: What's my WINCHESTER MODEL 75 WORTH? Please do because I will sell mine for $1000 and my 52B for $3000 in that case. It would be FTF in Florida only. __________________ MORS DE CONTACTUS-DEATH ON CONTACT

12-06-2011, 09:30 PM	#25
alphaman724 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1	A gun novice has a 6 rifles inc Winchester 75 & 69A I received these rifles 15 years ago and just found them in a closet and would like to sell to an interested party that would value them more than I. 1)Winchester 69A 2) Winchester 75 Serial 16984 3)J Stevens Arms Co MOdel 1915 Serial Z793 4) Marlin Firearms Model 883 Serial 10669818 5) Remington Model 6 6) Can't see a mfg but it looks old time vintage Serial OT-51659 302-442-8494 I'll need to take better photos but here are a few at Photobucket and individually below. Thanks. http://photobucket.com/6Rifles4sale