Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ - The Firearms Forum

Cheimison · 10-25-2004, 07:26 AM

Does anyone make an overbuilt 9x19 pistol for taking loads with pressure/recoil beyond +P+, IE the loads used in SMGs like the MP5? My USP seems to handle +P+ loads without a problem but I might pick up something that can handle really hot 9mm loads instead of a .357 if one exists.

For an idea of what I mean of "beyond +P+", Super Vel, and the 42,000-50,000 psi stuff some people use in Uzis, HKs, and 9mm NATO.

You may be wondering "Why not just get a .357?" Well the main reason is I like high capacity autoloaders and straight-shooting bullets.

Glocker · 10-27-2004, 12:21 AM

Get a 357SIG.

9mm +p+ runs about 1300fps with a 115gr bullet. With a 357SIG, you can easily push a 124gr bullet to 1400fps, and a 115gr bullet close to 1500fps.

Put another way.....357SIG loaded to maximum performance would be the equivalent of a 9mm ++p++, if they made such a thing. The nice thing is that even at maximum load levels, 357SIG is still operating within SAAMI specs.

Cheimison · 10-27-2004, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glocker

Get a 357SIG.

9mm +p+ runs about 1300fps with a 115gr bullet. With a 357SIG, you can easily push a 124gr bullet to 1400fps, and a 115gr bullet close to 1500fps.

Put another way.....357SIG loaded to maximum performance would be the equivalent of a 9mm ++p++, if they made such a thing. The nice thing is that even at maximum load levels, 357SIG is still operating within SAAMI specs.

I am seriously considering .357 SIG. Reccomend a gun, eh?

Glocker · 10-28-2004, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheimison

I am seriously considering .357 SIG. Reccomend a gun, eh?

A Glock, of course.

Seriously though....I own a G31 and a G33, and they're great guns. So far, they've handled the hottest handloads I've been able to feed them with no problems. I did replace the recoil spring in both to reduce muzzle flip. I think the factory springs are a bit light.

Other than a Glock, I'd look at Sig and Springfield XDs.

denfoote · 10-30-2004, 10:17 PM

The Kahr MK9 is rated for 9mm +P+ loaded to 1300fps!!!

CBR1000RR · 10-31-2004, 12:18 AM

how about SIG ?

Marlin · 10-31-2004, 08:19 AM

I'm very partial to any of the Browning-FN Hi-Powers, particularly the Practical, my favorite.

So far mine has handled anything I feed it without any problems.

stash247 · 10-31-2004, 01:06 PM

If size and weight are no issue, I don't think a Ruger can be blown up, if the recoil spring is adequate. They have about the thickest chamber area on the market, which is the area of concern with high pressures.
Hope this helps... Terry

10-25-2004, 07:26 AM	#1
Cheimison Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 58	Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ Does anyone make an overbuilt 9x19 pistol for taking loads with pressure/recoil beyond +P+, IE the loads used in SMGs like the MP5? My USP seems to handle +P+ loads without a problem but I might pick up something that can handle really hot 9mm loads instead of a .357 if one exists. For an idea of what I mean of "beyond +P+", Super Vel, and the 42,000-50,000 psi stuff some people use in Uzis, HKs, and 9mm NATO. You may be wondering "Why not just get a .357?" Well the main reason is I like high capacity autoloaders and straight-shooting bullets. -->

10-27-2004, 12:21 AM	#2
Glocker V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 136	Re: Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ Get a 357SIG. 9mm +p+ runs about 1300fps with a 115gr bullet. With a 357SIG, you can easily push a 124gr bullet to 1400fps, and a 115gr bullet close to 1500fps. Put another way.....357SIG loaded to maximum performance would be the equivalent of a 9mm ++p++, if they made such a thing. The nice thing is that even at maximum load levels, 357SIG is still operating within SAAMI specs. Last edited by Glocker; 10-27-2004 at 10:12 AM..

10-30-2004, 10:17 PM	#5
denfoote V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 80	Re: Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ The Kahr MK9 is rated for 9mm +P+ loaded to 1300fps!!! __________________ John Lennon was right. Happiness IS a warm gun!!! I traded my manners for a handgun.

10-31-2004, 12:18 AM	#6
CBR1000RR V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Raised in TX, now CA Posts: 71	Re: Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ how about SIG ? __________________

10-31-2004, 08:19 AM	#7
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ I'm very partial to any of the Browning-FN Hi-Powers, particularly the Practical, my favorite. So far mine has handled anything I feed it without any problems. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

10-31-2004, 01:06 PM	#8
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: Best Pistol for 9x19 Beyond +P+ If size and weight are no issue, I don't think a Ruger can be blown up, if the recoil spring is adequate. They have about the thickest chamber area on the market, which is the area of concern with high pressures. Hope this helps... Terry __________________ Don't start no s*t and there won't be none, Terry Last edited by stash247; 10-31-2004 at 01:07 PM..*