Texas CHL Class questions - The Firearms Forum

Redbeard · 06-26-2012, 03:05 AM

Hey All. Headed in this Thursday to take the class for my Texas CHL (CCW). THe place I am going to has a general outline of the class. Most of it is to be expected. Laws and regs regarding concealed carry. Shoot/don't shoot discussions.

There is a "course of fire" but it isn't described. It supposed to be 50 rounds. Anyone know what is involved? Distances, on hand/off hand, number of rounds at each station, supported/unsupported/hipshoot, etc...

Any info is appreciated.

jedwil · 06-26-2012, 05:22 AM

http://www.texasbestchl.com/range_qual.html

carver · 06-26-2012, 06:08 AM

The place I go to just has everyone shoot form 7yds. They used to have their course set up for all three distances, but decided that it was faster for the whole class just to shoot all 50rds form the 7yd mark. I recomend that you do not shoot a perfect score of 250.

Mike1959 · 06-26-2012, 07:05 AM

just a curious question but why would you not want to shoot a perfect score?? i am going to take my class later this year and any helpful info is appreciated.

north tex · 06-26-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

I recomend that you do not shoot a perfect score of 250.

?? There were 4 or 5 people in my class that shot perfect scores!. One guy with a .45 could have covered his group with a coffee cup. I shot a 248 because I flinched when a piece of hot brass hit my arm.

carver · 06-26-2012, 01:37 PM

If you have to shoot a person, God forbid, your range instructor might be called as a witness if it should go to court. What's he gonna say when they ask him for your score? If you're that good a shoot, why did you put three bullets in his chest when you could have just shot him in the arm, or leg????

Mike1959 · 06-26-2012, 02:09 PM

because a shot to an arm or leg did NOT neutralize the threat to my life???

Redbeard · 06-26-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jedwil

http://www.texasbestchl.com/range_qual.html

Thanks. So, this is a John Dillanger target from ready position always on the strong side? Sounds good. Should be easy.

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Originally Posted by carver

The place I go to just has everyone shoot form 7yds. They used to have their course set up for all three distances, but decided that it was faster for the whole class just to shoot all 50rds form the 7yd mark. I recomend that you do not shoot a perfect score of 250.

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Originally Posted by carver

If you have to shoot a person, God forbid, your range instructor might be called as a witness if it should go to court. What's he gonna say when they ask him for your score? If you're that good a shoot, why did you put three bullets in his chest when you could have just shot him in the arm, or leg????

In the criminal case this is irrelavant. You shoot to stop the threat.

In the civil case that can be relavent. Your actions that immediately follow the shoot will go towards your intent. I.E. Diall 911, attempt first-aid, comply with LE when it arrives, etc...

BETH · 06-26-2012, 03:59 PM

good luck

north tex · 06-26-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

If you have to shoot a person, God forbid, your range instructor might be called as a witness if it should go to court. What's he gonna say when they ask him for your score? If you're that good a shoot, why did you put three bullets in his chest when you could have just shot him in the arm, or leg????

Because there is a big difference between controlled range shooting and shooting in self defense under stress. As stated above we are trained to shoot center of mass until the threat is stopped, the way I've been trained for 40+ years. If my lawyer can't bring that into play I'll fire him.

Redbeard · 07-01-2012, 10:45 PM

Just a follow-up. I did okay. First round of 5 at 15 yards I tossed and I'm genuinely not sure why. The second five rounds went right back into the grouping.

45nut · 07-02-2012, 02:33 PM

I shot form 3, 5 and 10 yards (I think) and they didn't put a score just pass or fail on the shooting part for the reasons carver mentioned.

Officer: Why did you shoot him 7 times.
You: It was all the ammo I had.

Redbeard · 07-02-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 45nut

I shot form 3, 5 and 10 yards (I think) and they didn't put a score just pass or fail on the shooting part for the reasons carver mentioned.

Course of fire was:

It was 20 rounds at 3 yards. Then 20 rounds at 7 yards. Then 10 rounds at 15 yards.

Anything inside the 8 ring is a "hit". Each hit is worth 5 points for a max score of 250. A minimum of 175 (75%) is needed to pass.

06-26-2012, 03:05 AM	#1
Redbeard Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 32	Texas CHL Class questions Hey All. Headed in this Thursday to take the class for my Texas CHL (CCW). THe place I am going to has a general outline of the class. Most of it is to be expected. Laws and regs regarding concealed carry. Shoot/don't shoot discussions. There is a "course of fire" but it isn't described. It supposed to be 50 rounds. Anyone know what is involved? Distances, on hand/off hand, number of rounds at each station, supported/unsupported/hipshoot, etc... Any info is appreciated. -->

06-26-2012, 05:22 AM	#2
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,917	Re: Texas CHL Class questions http://www.texasbestchl.com/range_qual.html __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

06-26-2012, 06:08 AM	#3
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,232	Re: Texas CHL Class questions The place I go to just has everyone shoot form 7yds. They used to have their course set up for all three distances, but decided that it was faster for the whole class just to shoot all 50rds form the 7yd mark. I recomend that you *do not* shoot a perfect score of 250. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

06-26-2012, 07:05 AM	#4
Mike1959 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Contributor Posts: 187	Re: Texas CHL Class questions just a curious question but why would you not want to shoot a perfect score?? i am going to take my class later this year and any helpful info is appreciated. __________________ Mike You've called down the thunder, well now you've got it!

06-26-2012, 01:37 PM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,232	Re: Texas CHL Class questions If you have to shoot a person, God forbid, your range instructor might be called as a witness if it should go to court. What's he gonna say when they ask him for your score? If you're that good a shoot, why did you put three bullets in his chest when you could have just shot him in the arm, or leg???? __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

06-26-2012, 02:09 PM	#7
Mike1959 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Contributor Posts: 187	Re: Texas CHL Class questions because a shot to an arm or leg did NOT neutralize the threat to my life??? __________________ Mike You've called down the thunder, well now you've got it!

06-26-2012, 03:59 PM	#9
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,666	Re: Texas CHL Class questions good luck

07-01-2012, 10:45 PM	#11
Redbeard Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 32	Re: Texas CHL Class questions Just a follow-up. I did okay. First round of 5 at 15 yards I tossed and I'm genuinely not sure why. The second five rounds went right back into the grouping. Attached Images

07-02-2012, 02:33 PM	#12
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: Texas CHL Class questions I shot form 3, 5 and 10 yards (I think) and they didn't put a score just pass or fail on the shooting part for the reasons carver mentioned. Officer: Why did you shoot him 7 times. You: It was all the ammo I had. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*