Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 07-28-2012, 10:21 PM

A baby girl has died at a government hospital in India's northern Punjab state after doctors removed her from an incubator because her parents were too poor to pay the 200 rupees ($3.63) needed to keep her in it.

The baby, born prematurely with jaundice on July 20, needed incubator support to survive, state health officials said. Hospital authorities provided the incubator for two days but on Wednesday night asked Sanjiv Kumar, the child's father, to pay 200 rupees toward electricity charges needed to operate the machine.

Kumar, an unemployed house painter in Jalandhar, 252 miles north of New Delhi, did not have the money and was unable to borrow it. The hospital authorities removed his daughter from the incubator and she died a few hours later. "We begged and pleaded with them to keep our child alive in the incubator and that we would pay them the money later, but they refused," Kumar said.

He claimed that the nurses also removed the saline drip from the baby for nonpayment of dues.

The baby's mother Sunita told the Hindustan Times newspaper: "They killed my child. I pleaded that my husband needed time to arrange the money, but to no avail and the baby was taken out of the incubator."

Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/Hospital+...#ixzz21yhR0fSE

ryan42 · 07-28-2012, 10:58 PM

sick bastards,Im not a racist but I do have my predjudeses.They need to round up every red dot indian and send back to there country.I was at the truckstop by my house the other day and there was a truck driver with a one of them towels around there heads.Scares the hell out of me.

jack404 · 07-28-2012, 11:15 PM

Sihk's are very different

they seem arrogant but its a thing closer to pride

its how they think men should be , but get em in a trench and incoming fire , good folks to have , same attitude dont allow em to show fear , great joke tellers in a fire fight .. serious..

lotsa different types be careful , some of em are good folks

tarhiti ( almost wiped out by islam) Christians but 1 and 2nd century style Christians ( most easternly Christians and some folks use em to say Jesus traveled to india , but the Tarhiti folks never claim that only some western experts the Tarhiti say 5 families of traders came to their valley in the 1st century and brought the early faith with them )

they too wear turbans as they come from that same area , again great fighters , good folks ,

cant judge by looks mate , "by their deeds" and by their works

cycloneman · 07-29-2012, 12:19 AM

i was gona say something but i give up.

jack404 · 07-29-2012, 12:32 AM

i actually posted this to remind you obozo stated even india could afford nationalised medicine

.. this is how it is , pay up or else ..

politely called co-payments here , same deal though eh ..

gvw3 · 07-29-2012, 07:53 AM

The healthcare system here is great if you can afford it. I now work for healthcare and taxes. I could easily retire as my house is paid for I have a 401k and two pensions.

jack404 · 07-29-2012, 08:09 AM

our public system is on its 5th attempt its in the news now for a NDIS ( National Disability Insurance Scheme) where by the people pay the government in case ( self funding healthcare , we gone full circle with the government replacing the insurance companies )

Australian NDIS google ita a great scheme till you real;ise they allowed $1 Billion for a trial of 20,000 folks , what will it cost to run the nation? with 450,000 disabled 650,000 elderly , and where and how is it to be funded ??

healthcare under the public system here has died in the butt , there are more beaurocrats than healthcare workers and when they cut they cut healthcare workers , not middle management not admin front line staff go ..

4 hours wait if your non urgent surgical min..

a mate got clipped by a car on his bike last week and waited 8 hours with a busted arm

not enough staff , not enough doc's too many "closed" wards' ( cut backs ) half the hospitals are either empty or closed

and Britains worse .. Blessed are the healthy there

skullfr · 07-29-2012, 09:21 AM

and India is one of the premier surgical vacation destinations.It all boils down to the buck.Aint got it you die.Ours would be better if we werent taking care of all these gang related shootings.How many millions are spent on taking care of these punks while our elderly suffer.

Insulation Tim · 07-29-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skullfr

and India is one of the premier surgical vacation destinations.It all boils down to the buck.Aint got it you die.Ours would be better if we werent taking care of all these gang related shootings.How many millions are spent on taking care of these punks while our elderly suffer.

Amen to that. Why we waste precious money on the slime of society is beyond me. Let 'em die. I'm sure that their names will remain on the ACTIVE Democrate voting register anyway.

Gun Geezer · 07-29-2012, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

our public system is on its 5th attempt its in the news now for a NDIS ( National Disability Insurance Scheme) where by the people pay the government in case ( self funding healthcare , we gone full circle with the government replacing the insurance companies )

Australian NDIS google ita a great scheme till you real;ise they allowed $1 Billion for a trial of 20,000 folks , what will it cost to run the nation? with 450,000 disabled 650,000 elderly , and where and how is it to be funded ??

healthcare under the public system here has died in the butt , there are more beaurocrats than healthcare workers and when they cut they cut healthcare workers , not middle management not admin front line staff go ..

4 hours wait if your non urgent surgical min..

a mate got clipped by a car on his bike last week and waited 8 hours with a busted arm

not enough staff , not enough doc's too many "closed" wards' ( cut backs ) half the hospitals are either empty or closed

and Britains worse .. Blessed are the healthy there

I have heard similar complaints from Canadian friends who winter in Florida. Welcome to the world of socialized medicine.

jack404 · 07-29-2012, 10:13 PM

and when i comes to Kids ..

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...-unacceptable/

Quote:

The New South Wales Opposition says analysis of surgery waiting lists shows Sydney's two biggest children's hospitals have some of the longest waiting times in New South Wales.

New South Wales Health figures show that in March this year patients at Westmead Children's Hospital waited an average of 99 days for surgery - a month longer than in March 2011.

At Sydney Children's Hospital in Randwick, there was an average wait of about 71 days.

The Opposition's Health spokesman Andrew McDonald says both hospitals are among the 10 worst performers for surgical waiting times in New South Wales.

He says there are more than 2,500 children waiting for surgery.

know the damage done when they have to rebreak something to reset it ?? and to kids??

yeah socialised medicine sucks

GLS_1956 · 07-31-2012, 02:09 PM

Isn't India one of the countries that Obamma holds out as an example when talking about his health care package?

07-28-2012, 10:21 PM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 A baby girl has died at a government hospital in India's northern Punjab state after doctors removed her from an incubator because her parents were too poor to pay the 200 rupees ($3.63) needed to keep her in it. The baby, born prematurely with jaundice on July 20, needed incubator support to survive, state health officials said. Hospital authorities provided the incubator for two days but on Wednesday night asked Sanjiv Kumar, the child's father, to pay 200 rupees toward electricity charges needed to operate the machine. Kumar, an unemployed house painter in Jalandhar, 252 miles north of New Delhi, did not have the money and was unable to borrow it. The hospital authorities removed his daughter from the incubator and she died a few hours later. "We begged and pleaded with them to keep our child alive in the incubator and that we would pay them the money later, but they refused," Kumar said. He claimed that the nurses also removed the saline drip from the baby for nonpayment of dues. The baby's mother Sunita told the Hindustan Times newspaper: "They killed my child. I pleaded that my husband needed time to arrange the money, but to no avail and the baby was taken out of the incubator." Read more: http://www.windsorstar.com/Hospital+...#ixzz21yhR0fSE -->

07-28-2012, 10:58 PM	#2
ryan42 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: marion indiana Contributor Posts: 1,549	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 sick bastards,Im not a racist but I do have my predjudeses.They need to round up every red dot indian and send back to there country.I was at the truckstop by my house the other day and there was a truck driver with a one of them towels around there heads.Scares the hell out of me. __________________ Tommorrow is promised to know one! Ryan Stevens

07-28-2012, 11:15 PM	#3
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 Sihk's are very different they seem arrogant but its a thing closer to pride its how they think men should be , but get em in a trench and incoming fire , good folks to have , same attitude dont allow em to show fear , great joke tellers in a fire fight .. serious.. lotsa different types be careful , some of em are good folks tarhiti ( almost wiped out by islam) Christians but 1 and 2nd century style Christians ( most easternly Christians and some folks use em to say Jesus traveled to india , but the Tarhiti folks never claim that only some western experts the Tarhiti say 5 families of traders came to their valley in the 1st century and brought the early faith with them ) they too wear turbans as they come from that same area , again great fighters , good folks , cant judge by looks mate , "by their deeds" and by their works Last edited by jack404; 07-28-2012 at 11:21 PM..

07-29-2012, 12:19 AM	#4
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,401	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 i was gona say something but i give up. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

07-29-2012, 12:32 AM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 i actually posted this to remind you obozo stated even india could afford nationalised medicine .. this is how it is , pay up or else .. politely called co-payments here , same deal though eh ..

07-29-2012, 07:53 AM	#6
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,273	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 The healthcare system here is great if you can afford it. I now work for healthcare and taxes. I could easily retire as my house is paid for I have a 401k and two pensions. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

07-29-2012, 08:09 AM	#7
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 our public system is on its 5th attempt its in the news now for a NDIS ( National Disability Insurance Scheme) where by the people pay the government in case ( self funding healthcare , we gone full circle with the government replacing the insurance companies ) Australian NDIS google ita a great scheme till you real;ise they allowed $1 Billion for a trial of 20,000 folks , what will it cost to run the nation? with 450,000 disabled 650,000 elderly , and where and how is it to be funded ?? healthcare under the public system here has died in the butt , there are more beaurocrats than healthcare workers and when they cut they cut healthcare workers , not middle management not admin front line staff go .. 4 hours wait if your non urgent surgical min.. a mate got clipped by a car on his bike last week and waited 8 hours with a busted arm not enough staff , not enough doc's too many "closed" wards' ( cut backs ) half the hospitals are either empty or closed and Britains worse .. Blessed are the healthy there

07-29-2012, 09:21 AM	#8
skullfr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 902	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 and India is one of the premier surgical vacation destinations.It all boils down to the buck.Aint got it you die.Ours would be better if we werent taking care of all these gang related shootings.How many millions are spent on taking care of these punks while our elderly suffer. __________________ If Ya cant stand up stand out There is no atheist in a foxhole Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the Lord my strength,which teacheth my hand to war and my fingers to fight

07-31-2012, 02:09 PM	#12
GLS_1956 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: The Great State of Oklahoma Posts: 73	Re: Hospital lets baby die for $3.63 Isn't India one of the countries that Obamma holds out as an example when talking about his health care package?