Rotten People! - The Firearms Forum

pinecone70 · 03-01-2009, 07:43 PM

There are some really nasty people in this world.

I was at my dad's house today and collected the mail. There was a letter from the sheriff's department from the neighboring county about an active misdemeanor warrant for driving after cancellation. The first and last names match my dad's, but the middle name is different and has a different initial.

Essentially, some jerk with a warrant has been giving out my dad's address and phone number as his own.

Now I'll have to clear this up, since I am my dad's guardian. Dad is currently in the hospital, and he hasn't driven a vehicle for over three years, so I'll have to prove to the warrant division that my dad isn't the guy they want, and that the fugitive lied to an officer at some point. He'll be in even more trouble. Apparently this jerk was recently living in the trailer park a couple of miles away and probably took my dad's information right out of the phone book. I found more information for free on the internet than the sheriff's department did! I'm sure I'll need to follow up on this by mailing them a letter to keep my dad's name out of it too.

Grr! How awful to do use a little old man's address like this!

RunningOnMT · 03-01-2009, 07:49 PM

That's a shame Pinecone. I hope it doesn't take more than a phonecall to straighten out....it shouldn't.

durk · 03-01-2009, 08:50 PM

Good luck with that Pinecone.

pinecone70 · 03-01-2009, 08:52 PM

Thanks! It might actually be interesting if this nut gets caught and charged with more crimes than he's already committed. I like it when people have to admit they tried to pull one over on the cops, jeez.

glocknut · 03-01-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

There are some really nasty people in this world.

AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike
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1shot1k · 03-01-2009, 10:06 PM

Hope also that phone call and your details clear this up quick....you will also be throwin first dart at catchin this jerk...hope Dad is feelin better as well....

jacksonco · 03-01-2009, 10:37 PM

Pinecone the deception may go farther than just lying to the police. This person has stolen your dad's identity and they may have been running up charges on your dad's name. You most certainly want to get a complaint filed asap and find out whayt you need to do to check if your dad's name has been used in fraudulent activities.

Big ugly · 03-01-2009, 10:59 PM

It could also be that they are making attemps to find this guy also. After my father moved to Georgia I was stuck paying for a ticket he recieved siply becouse we have the same last name. It was a simple harmless seatbelt violation but it happens all the same. the couny did a quick search and found that there was still a --------- ---------- in the area but they neglected to dig far enough to tell that one was born in 1955 and the other was born in 1977. I know its unfortunate but it may safe some heart burn buy just making a phone call. Dont be suprised if it turns out to be a simple administration error, They do happen.

Bruce FLinch · 03-01-2009, 10:59 PM

You might check w/ banks, credit card co, to make sure his ID hasn't been stolen. Good Luck.

artabr · 03-01-2009, 11:02 PM

Hopefully your state is like my state and has enhanced penalties for crimes against the elderly. I hope the catch this low life piece of dung.

Art

pickenup · 03-02-2009, 12:07 AM

Had something similar happen to me years ago.
Hope they catch him, and nail his hide to the wall.......literally.

358 winchester · 03-02-2009, 05:04 AM

Pinecone we got some nice gator holes around here we could drop him in one of them for you at no charge

TranterUK · 03-02-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

There are some really nasty people in this world.

Sorry to read of your problem pinecone.

As I say to my kids, there are nice people in the world and nasty people in the world and always will be. Best you can do is avoid the nasty ones, and spend time with the nice ones.

Lori Mick · 03-02-2009, 06:06 AM

Good morning and best of luck getting this mess taken care of.

We get several of these things happening with our clients too. It's not identity theft....rather...it's the IRS or government agency grasping at straws. They have a name but they can't find them....so they pull up all the records of names that sound familiar and send them tax due notices.
Some people actually pay the taxes without investigating....but most others will give the notices to us to get it corrected. It's not an overnight fix but it does get fixed.
When you said the middle name is different, it just makes me think that is what is happening.

Just my thoughts, and hope it gets cleared up quickly. It's a pain in the butt when it happens but it can and will be fixed.

Lori

mrkirker · 03-02-2009, 06:46 AM

I found more information for free on the internet than the sheriff's department did!
Typical LEO's!
Hope getting this straightened out goes smoothly, but don't count on it. They'll HATE to admit they made an error, and will probably make you jump through all kinds of hoops to 'prove' that your Dad isn't trying to pull one over on 'em.

pinecone70 · 03-02-2009, 06:51 AM

Yes, that's what I'm worried about. It seems they will not believe me because I am not my father trying to clear his own name. Why should they believe anything I say? All I can do is send them proof of his identity and hope for the best. I really don't need this right now.

I am sure the fugitive got the information right out of the old phone book, there is no sign anyone has tampered with any other information, but I have been watching. Dad has excellent neighbors too, they have had some false alarms in the neighborhood but are always on top of things.

Lori Mick · 03-02-2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

Yes, that's what I'm worried about. It seems they will not believe me because I am not my father trying to clear his own name. Why should they believe anything I say? All I can do is send them proof of his identity and hope for the best. I really don't need this right now.

I am sure the fugitive got the information right out of the old phone book, there is no sign anyone has tampered with any other information, but I have been watching. Dad has excellent neighbors too, they have had some false alarms in the neighborhood but are always on top of things.

pinecone....
download a Power of Attorney form from the irs website....if you need a link I'll be happy to help. Have your dad sign it and attach it to his documents. It will help in your plight!

pinecone70 · 03-02-2009, 07:20 AM

I doubt I'll have to sic dad's lawyer on them or anything like that. I think I can get them to fix this by simply being too polite about it all. If they need concrete proof, they can always go to the hospital and meet my father.

Lori Mick · 03-02-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

I doubt I'll have to sic dad's lawyer on them or anything like that. I think I can get them to fix this by simply being too polite about it all. If they need concrete proof, they can always go to the hospital and meet my father.

You don't need an attorney..... The Power of Attorney gives you permission to speak for your dad in his place. It's a simple form and just needs his signature.

We use it alot at work when our clients want my boss to speak for them about their personl stuff or business.

here is the link to the form. Fill it out, get it signed and attach copies of it to all correspondence.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f2848.pdf

pinecone70 · 03-02-2009, 07:35 AM

Dad's legal matters are already in order. He isn't able to sign anything at this point, so it's a good thing.

Lori Mick · 03-02-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

Dad's legal matters are already in order. He isn't able to sign anything at this point, so it's a good thing.

ok...well then, I wish you the best of luck with this....
and hope it all goes smoothly for you.

pinecone70 · 03-02-2009, 09:12 AM

Well, I was reassured by the county warrant division that the clerk made an error. They are already looking for this dude at another address in the same town. The person I spoke with said there is no way my dad is the guy they're looking for because there is a 29 year age difference anyway!

Whew! Glad that's cleared up. I will need to copy this letter and send a note with it explaining the error and that should be all. Thank heavens.

artabr · 03-02-2009, 12:27 PM

That's great news, Pine. Glad to hear that the problem is resolved.

It was just the people from the nanny state doing what they do best.

Art

jacksonco · 03-02-2009, 05:08 PM

Glad to hear that the issue has been resolved.

Blackhawk Dave · 03-02-2009, 05:12 PM

I had a phone number that ended in 0411. Got more than one knuckle head use that as their phone number when asked by the officer. Finally, just changed the number.

03-01-2009, 07:43 PM	#1
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Rotten People! There are some really nasty people in this world. I was at my dad's house today and collected the mail. There was a letter from the sheriff's department from the neighboring county about an active misdemeanor warrant for driving after cancellation. The first and last names match my dad's, but the middle name is different and has a different initial. Essentially, some jerk with a warrant has been giving out my dad's address and phone number as his own. Now I'll have to clear this up, since I am my dad's guardian. Dad is currently in the hospital, and he hasn't driven a vehicle for over three years, so I'll have to prove to the warrant division that my dad isn't the guy they want, and that the fugitive lied to an officer at some point. He'll be in even more trouble. Apparently this jerk was recently living in the trailer park a couple of miles away and probably took my dad's information right out of the phone book. I found more information for free on the internet than the sheriff's department did! I'm sure I'll need to follow up on this by mailing them a letter to keep my dad's name out of it too. Grr! How awful to do use a little old man's address like this! __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...." -->

03-01-2009, 07:49 PM	#2
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Rotten People! That's a shame Pinecone. I hope it doesn't take more than a phonecall to straighten out....it shouldn't.

03-01-2009, 08:50 PM	#3
durk Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,026	Re: Rotten People! Good luck with that Pinecone. __________________ Durk

03-01-2009, 08:52 PM	#4
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Rotten People! Thanks! It might actually be interesting if this nut gets caught and charged with more crimes than he's already committed. I like it when people have to admit they tried to pull one over on the cops, jeez. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

03-01-2009, 10:06 PM	#6
1shot1k Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 904	Re: Rotten People! Hope also that phone call and your details clear this up quick....you will also be throwin first dart at catchin this jerk...hope Dad is feelin better as well....

03-01-2009, 10:37 PM	#7
jacksonco Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jackson County West Virginia Posts: 2,237	Re: Rotten People! Pinecone the deception may go farther than just lying to the police. This person has stolen your dad's identity and they may have been running up charges on your dad's name. You most certainly want to get a complaint filed asap and find out whayt you need to do to check if your dad's name has been used in fraudulent activities.

03-01-2009, 10:59 PM	#8
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: Rotten People! It could also be that they are making attemps to find this guy also. After my father moved to Georgia I was stuck paying for a ticket he recieved siply becouse we have the same last name. It was a simple harmless seatbelt violation but it happens all the same. the couny did a quick search and found that there was still a --------- ---------- in the area but they neglected to dig far enough to tell that one was born in 1955 and the other was born in 1977. I know its unfortunate but it may safe some heart burn buy just making a phone call. Dont be suprised if it turns out to be a simple administration error, They do happen.

03-01-2009, 10:59 PM	#9
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: Rotten People! You might check w/ banks, credit card co, to make sure his ID hasn't been stolen. Good Luck. __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

03-01-2009, 11:02 PM	#10
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: Rotten People! Hopefully your state is like my state and has enhanced penalties for crimes against the elderly. I hope the catch this low life piece of dung. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

03-02-2009, 12:07 AM	#11
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	Re: Rotten People! Had something similar happen to me years ago. Hope they catch him, and nail his hide to the wall.......literally. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

03-02-2009, 05:04 AM	#12
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: Rotten People! Pinecone we got some nice gator holes around here we could drop him in one of them for you at no charge __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

03-02-2009, 06:06 AM	#14
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: Rotten People! Good morning and best of luck getting this mess taken care of. We get several of these things happening with our clients too. It's not identity theft....rather...it's the IRS or government agency grasping at straws. They have a name but they can't find them....so they pull up all the records of names that sound familiar and send them tax due notices. Some people actually pay the taxes without investigating....but most others will give the notices to us to get it corrected. It's not an overnight fix but it does get fixed. When you said the middle name is different, it just makes me think that is what is happening. Just my thoughts, and hope it gets cleared up quickly. It's a pain in the butt when it happens but it can and will be fixed. Lori __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

03-02-2009, 06:46 AM	#15
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: Rotten People! I found more information for free on the internet than the sheriff's department did! Typical LEO's! Hope getting this straightened out goes smoothly, but don't count on it. They'll HATE to admit they made an error, and will probably make you jump through all kinds of hoops to 'prove' that your Dad isn't trying to pull one over on 'em. __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

03-02-2009, 06:51 AM	#16
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Rotten People! Yes, that's what I'm worried about. It seems they will not believe me because I am not my father trying to clear his own name. Why should they believe anything I say? All I can do is send them proof of his identity and hope for the best. I really don't need this right now. I am sure the fugitive got the information right out of the old phone book, there is no sign anyone has tampered with any other information, but I have been watching. Dad has excellent neighbors too, they have had some false alarms in the neighborhood but are always on top of things. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

03-02-2009, 07:20 AM	#18
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Rotten People! I doubt I'll have to sic dad's lawyer on them or anything like that. I think I can get them to fix this by simply being too polite about it all. If they need concrete proof, they can always go to the hospital and meet my father. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

03-02-2009, 07:35 AM	#20
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Rotten People! Dad's legal matters are already in order. He isn't able to sign anything at this point, so it's a good thing. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

03-02-2009, 09:12 AM	#22
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Rotten People! Well, I was reassured by the county warrant division that the clerk made an error. They are already looking for this dude at another address in the same town. The person I spoke with said there is no way my dad is the guy they're looking for because there is a 29 year age difference anyway! Whew! Glad that's cleared up. I will need to copy this letter and send a note with it explaining the error and that should be all. Thank heavens. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

03-02-2009, 12:27 PM	#23
artabr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Iberia, Louisiana Contributor Posts: 7,859	Re: Rotten People! That's great news, Pine. Glad to hear that the problem is resolved. It was just the people from the nanny state doing what they do best. Art __________________ God and the soldier we like adore, In times of trouble, not before. When troubles ended and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier is slighted. Francis Quarles 1592 - 1644 __________________ When asked for my race, I answer CauCajun. Hope is not a plan, and not all change is good. The resistance is here; the resistance is now. RESIST! These hands are neither cold nor are they dead!!

03-02-2009, 05:08 PM	#24
jacksonco Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jackson County West Virginia Posts: 2,237	Re: Rotten People! Glad to hear that the issue has been resolved.

03-02-2009, 05:12 PM	#25
Blackhawk Dave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 593	Re: Rotten People! I had a phone number that ended in 0411. Got more than one knuckle head use that as their phone number when asked by the officer. Finally, just changed the number.