How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? - The Firearms Forum

seward · 03-02-2007, 08:24 PM

The Washington Post might be even more liberal that the NYT---- and looks like WP had a big role in getting Secretary of Army fired today because of messed up US Army hospital.... What's everybody's take? Correct Spelling is "Reed"

Bruce FLinch · 03-02-2007, 08:40 PM

That mess is an embarrassment. I'm sure more than 2 heads will end up rolling, & rightly so.

berto64 · 03-02-2007, 08:45 PM

Looks like crap is rolling Uphill on this one. But as you military folks know, responsibility flows from the top down.

The boss is ultimatley responsible for those he commands.
Especialy the General grade officers.

johnston3407 · 03-02-2007, 09:04 PM

It took WAY too long for the heads to roll, and it should not have taken a "news report" to make ti happen!

White Hawk · 03-02-2007, 10:59 PM

Some of the engineering projects I work on include VA hospitals. I haven't seen any problems, but I think any facility catering to our veterans' needs should be at least as good - if not better - than those catering to civilians. What happened at Walter Reed is a shame, an atrocity. Nobody in the service should ever allow such things happen to fellow servicemen.

durk · 03-03-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by johnston3407

It took WAY too long for the heads to roll, and it should not have taken a "news report" to make ti happen!

Very True!!

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Originally Posted by White Hawk

Some of the engineering projects I work on include VA hospitals. I haven't seen any problems, but I think any facility catering to our veterans' needs should be at least as good - if not better - than those catering to civilians. What happened at Walter Reed is a shame, an atrocity. Nobody in the service should ever allow such things happen to fellow servicemen.

Yes, Excellent quotes!

This is Government health care! All you folks that want socialized/Government health care better be rethinking your positions!

seward · 03-03-2007, 12:20 AM

Parenthetically, ...I've got great health-care benefits at the moment..

358 winchester · 03-03-2007, 01:33 AM

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This is Government health care! All you folks that want socialized/Government health care better be rethinking your positions!
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Durk

You are so right my friend

Yes it is a shame that it happened but do you think that for minute every other solider was treated in a perfect sterilized hospital room. It is possible that old closed wards had to be opened Not that it is right nor do I think they should be allowed to continue to use them. But let's get the entire story before we hang some one, THEN we can sleep after the hanging

johnston3407 · 03-03-2007, 07:59 AM

My wife & I have good health ins. She uses her Doc. but I go to the V.A. and I wouldn't trade it for anything. She is always getting the run around about who wil pay what part and finds it hard to just walk in and see the Doc. I will stay with the V.A. in Biloxi.

clmanges · 03-03-2007, 09:11 AM

This is reprehensible. Even though I have never been in the military and am opposed to the war in Iraq, I think it shameful to short-change our soldiers this way. They volunteered, signed away some of the rights they have as civilians, and don't get to choose where they're sent. Still, they do their duty, and when they come home, for whatever reason and in whatever condition, they should get a hero's welcome, and that should extend to the best medical (and psychological) care we can give them. Instead, they get treated as disposable goods. This has been going on forever; I've almost never heard a good word about the VA from any GI I've ever spoken with, going back almost 40 years.
Why does this continue?
Grr-r-r!

Pistolenschutze · 03-03-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

Not that it is right nor do I think they should be allowed to continue to use them. But let's get the entire story before we hang some one, THEN we can sleep after the hanging

I must agree with Ron on this. If what actually happened at Waltar Reed is indeed as it has been reported in the media, the ones responsible should be identified and fired for incompetence. Whatever the case, the difficiencies must be corrected immediately. Our service men and woman deserve the best care America has to offer. Yet before we set up the guillotine and start lopping heads, I agree with Ron that ALL the facts must be identified and fairly evaluated. It makes no sense to replace the whole engine if it's only a spark plug or two that's broken.

Thunderhawk88 · 03-03-2007, 06:47 PM

If it was as bad as reported then that is truly a crime of the highest order. Our Veterans gave alot to this country, some gave all, and the ones that need the VA should get the best treatment and facilities in the nation!

catfish83861 · 03-03-2007, 10:11 PM

Lawyers litigate their mistakes.

The VA buries theirs.

Just one persons opinion.

Why the surprise?? You notice the wounded ABC correspondent received what appears to be front line treatment.Hillary will receive her pension for the rest of her life,if she outlives Bill she gets his pension for the rest of her life. Should I die on the 31st at 2359 hours my widow has to give the government my last paycheck back as I didn't live out the complete month. This is a democracy that if you have money you get the best of everything,otherwise you do the best you can. Feel free to correct me if this post has any inaccuracies. catfish

Nortranman · 03-03-2007, 11:06 PM

I can't say what is happening in Walter Reed. But I depend on the VA in Portland, Oregon for my health care. I have a bad heart and busted back along with diabetes and I can't say enough about the care that I am given. The facility is new and treatment is top notch. Besides the VA doctors, the Oregon Health Sciences University is right next door and renders a lot of help. I feel sorry for these guys who were mistreated at what was once a very highly regarded Hospital.

03-02-2007, 08:24 PM	#1
seward Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 77	How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? The Washington Post might be even more liberal that the NYT---- and looks like WP had a big role in getting Secretary of Army fired today because of messed up US Army hospital.... What's everybody's take? Correct Spelling is "Reed" --> Last edited by seward; 03-03-2007 at 12:14 AM.. Reason: cq spelling

03-02-2007, 08:40 PM	#2
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? That mess is an embarrassment. I'm sure more than 2 heads will end up rolling, & rightly so. __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

03-02-2007, 08:45 PM	#3
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? Looks like crap is rolling Uphill on this one. But as you military folks know, responsibility flows from the top down. The boss is ultimatley responsible for those he commands. Especialy the General grade officers. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

03-02-2007, 09:04 PM	#4
johnston3407 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 592	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? It took WAY too long for the heads to roll, and it should not have taken a "news report" to make ti happen!

03-02-2007, 10:59 PM	#5
White Hawk V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 458	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? Some of the engineering projects I work on include VA hospitals. I haven't seen any problems, but I think any facility catering to our veterans' needs should be at least as good - if not better - than those catering to civilians. What happened at Walter Reed is a shame, an atrocity. Nobody in the service should ever allow such things happen to fellow servicemen. __________________ Remember the good old days, when everything said "Made In Japan" on it?

03-03-2007, 12:20 AM	#7
seward Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 77	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? Parenthetically, ...I've got great health-care benefits at the moment.. Last edited by seward; 03-05-2007 at 12:58 AM.. Reason: slightly shorter/longer

03-03-2007, 07:59 AM	#9
johnston3407 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 592	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? My wife & I have good health ins. She uses her Doc. but I go to the V.A. and I wouldn't trade it for anything. She is always getting the run around about who wil pay what part and finds it hard to just walk in and see the Doc. I will stay with the V.A. in Biloxi.

03-03-2007, 09:11 AM	#10
clmanges V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 203	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? This is reprehensible. Even though I have never been in the military and am opposed to the war in Iraq, I think it shameful to short-change our soldiers this way. They volunteered, signed away some of the rights they have as civilians, and don't get to choose where they're sent. Still, they do their duty, and when they come home, for whatever reason and in whatever condition, they should get a hero's welcome, and that should extend to the best medical (and psychological) care we can give them. Instead, they get treated as disposable goods. This has been going on forever; I've almost never heard a good word about the VA from any GI I've ever spoken with, going back almost 40 years. Why does this continue? Grr-r-r! __________________ Happiness is a warm gun

03-03-2007, 06:47 PM	#12
Thunderhawk88 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So. California Desert style.. Posts: 109	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? If it was as bad as reported then that is truly a crime of the highest order. Our Veterans gave alot to this country, some gave all, and the ones that need the VA should get the best treatment and facilities in the nation!

03-03-2007, 10:11 PM	#13
catfish83861 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Idaho Posts: 2,019	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? Lawyers litigate their mistakes. The VA buries theirs. Just one persons opinion. Why the surprise?? You notice the wounded ABC correspondent received what appears to be front line treatment.Hillary will receive her pension for the rest of her life,if she outlives Bill she gets his pension for the rest of her life. Should I die on the 31st at 2359 hours my widow has to give the government my last paycheck back as I didn't live out the complete month. This is a democracy that if you have money you get the best of everything,otherwise you do the best you can. Feel free to correct me if this post has any inaccuracies. catfish

03-03-2007, 11:06 PM	#14
Nortranman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northwest Posts: 197	Re: How "bout that Walter Read Hosptial story? I can't say what is happening in Walter Reed. But I depend on the VA in Portland, Oregon for my health care. I have a bad heart and busted back along with diabetes and I can't say enough about the care that I am given. The facility is new and treatment is top notch. Besides the VA doctors, the Oregon Health Sciences University is right next door and renders a lot of help. I feel sorry for these guys who were mistreated at what was once a very highly regarded Hospital.