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Old 11-30-2009, 01:13 PM   #1
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Default 38 special TMJ loads

HI does anyone have data for reloading 38special in 158TMJ loads? Been using bullseye to date at 3.3g.
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:51 PM   #2
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Default Re: 38 special TMJ loads

That's a good load. TMJ bullets are plated, not jacketed, so you need to load them with lead specs, not jacketed specs. Lyman book has 2.4 to 3.7 grains of bullseye with a 158 lead, so you're right in the ballpark.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:58 PM   #3
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Default Re: 38 special TMJ loads

Thanks
Any thoughts on P+ loads - using bullseye and 158TMJ`s
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:03 PM   #4
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Default Re: 38 special TMJ loads

I use 3.6 grains of Bullseye under 158 grain LRN, (Dardas hard cast bullet).
Real sweet load. No fouling whatsoever.
3.5 grains not too bad either.
At 3.5 grains you get 2000 rounds from a pound of powder!
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:43 PM   #5
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158 grain Lead RNFP or SWC COWBOY load
Trail Boss 2.7 gr. 661 FPS minimum
Trail Boss 4.2 gr. 804 FPS Maximum
Universal 3.5 gr. 756 FPS minimum
Universal 4.5 gr. 974 FPS MAXIMUM
HP38 3.1 gr. 782 minimum
HP38 3.7 gr. 834 Maximum
Titegroup 3.2 gr. 815 minimum
Titegroup 3.8 gr. 920 Maximum
Clays 2.8 gr. 812 minimum
Clays 3.1 gr. 871 Maximum
AA #5 6.0 gr. 883 Max
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158 grain LSWC or LRN (Semi-Wad, Rnd. Nose or flat point)
Bullseye 3.6 gr. 810 FPS
Unique 3.5 gr. 697 (mild load)
Unique 4.3 gr. 920
Unique 4.5 gr. 975 (actual in 7" bbl revolver)
Unique 4.5 gr. 908 (5" bbl,powder UP)
(Hi=930 Lo= 885.4 Spread=44.2 fps)
Unique 4.5 gr. 797 (5" bbl,powder DOWN - see note)
(Hi=879.5 Lo= 729.4 Spread=150.1 fps)
Universal 3.5 gr. 756 (Cowboy load)
Universal 4.5 gr. 974
Clays 2.8 gr. 812 (cowboy load)
Clays 3.1 gr. 871
HP38 3.1 gr. 782 (Cowboy load)
HP38 3.7 gr. 834
No. 2 4.0 gr. 756 (published load)
No. 2 3.6 gr. 808 (in 7" bbl)
hi=849 lo=728 ES=122 (powder up and down)
No. 2 3.2 gr. 725 (in 7" bbl)
hi=770 lo=679 ES=91 (powder up and down)
No. 5 5.8 gr. 841 (published)
No. 5 5.0 gr. 736 (in 7" bbl)
hi=763 lo=688 ES=75 (powder up and down)
No. 5 4.6 gr. 694 (in 7" bbl)
hi=740 lo=648 ES=92 (powder up and down)
231 3.1 gr. 753 (do not use less)
231 4.5 gr. 830 (published MAX)
231 4.0 gr. 898 (actual in 7" bbl revolver)
WST 3.7 gr. 770 (MAX)
WAP 4.5 gr. 681 (published)
WAP 4.3 gr. 752 (in 7"bbl)*
hi=821 lo=684 ES=137 (powder up and down)
WAP 4.3 gr. 734 (in 4 5/8" bbl)*
hi=815 lo=637 ES=178 (powder in normal positions)
WAP 4.0 gr. 658 (in 7" bbl)*(NOT recommended)
hi=714 lo=549 ES=165 (powder up and down)
540 6.8 gr. 880
VV N320 3.9 gr. 872 (published)
VV N320 3.2 gr. 723 (in 7" bbl)(same in 4 5/8" bbl)
hi=758 lo=693 ES=65 (powder up and down)(DO NOT USE LESS)
VV N340 4.8 gr. 882
*WAP is not best choice for .38 special, too slow and inconsistent
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:21 PM   #6
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Thanks great data. I will get loading!
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:26 PM   #7
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My secret hehehehe i will post later
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