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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Vermont
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It's sitting bull
Bronx man gets ticketed for resting on a milk crate By BILL EGBERT and OWEN MORITZ DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Jesse Taveras of the Bronx shows summons he got for sitting on milk crate. A lot of New Yorkers have outrageous stories about how the city is milking them dry with ridiculous fines - but Jesse Taveras has them all beat. The 19-year-old Bronx man got a summons Sunday - for simply sitting on a milk crate on the Grand Concourse. "I don't believe this," Taveras said he told the cop who handed him the ticket, citing him for "unauthorized use of a milk crate." "'Don't blame me,'" Taveras said the cop told him. "'Blame Bloomberg.'" The summons didn't say how much Taveras would have to pay for planting his bottom on the crate, which bore the imprint of Sunnydale Farms and a warning: "Use by anyone but registered owner is liable to prosecution, article 17A, General Business Law." Deputy Chief Administrative Judge Joan Carey said a judge would decide the amount of the fine. But Carey conceded she was stumped by the case of the sitting man. "I've never heard of this [violation] before," she said. "But I learned something new today." She did note that an ages-old provision of the general business law deals with abandoned milk cans. It involves a $50 fine. And a 1988 law calls for fines of up to $100 for stealing milk crates - but doesn't address the legality of sitting on them. The summons from hell came days after the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association charged that beat cops are under pressure to write tickets and meet illegal quotas to help pump money into city coffers. City officials strongly deny those charges. 'Because you're sitting' Taveras' descent into a bureaucratic Twilight Zone came about 6:30 p.m. Sunday, as he sat on the crate in front the Grand Concourse hair-braiding salon where he works. He said he was asked for identification, which he showed the officer. The cop then called the 46th Precinct to see whether there was a warrant out for Taveras' arrest. "I wondered if maybe I littered," he said. There was no record and no warrant, he said. But he was then hit with the summons and immediately asked why. "'Because you're sitting,'" Taveras said the cop explained. "'We have to make our daily quota.'" The cop, whose last name was Payan, could not be reached for comment. Taveras said the cop's partner told him not to worry. "It's not a big deal," she said. "The judge will throw it out anyway." According to a Bronx police source, cops are enforcing a quality-of-life campaign called Operation Impact. "There have been complaints of people hanging out, sitting on milk crates, drinking beer, playing cards," the source said. The summons could cost Taveras more than a few dollars or a lost day of work in court. His court date is June 25 - when he expects to be in the Dominican Republic visiting his sick mother. He said he has paid $700 for plane tickets. "Regardless of what the fine is," he said, "if I have to cancel my trip, this ticket is going to cost me $700." Although Taveras' friends and family were outraged by the ticket, Jogi Singh, 52, the manager of a Sunnydale Farms Food Store in Westchester County, had little sympathy. "I'm going crazy," he said. "We lose 200 to 300 crates a year." Meanwhile, the evidence remains at the scene of the crime. "The crate's in front of the salon, where it has always been," said owner Michele Adams. DO MORE LAWS GIVE YOU MORE FREEDOM ?
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 369
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The City of New York has stepped up it's ticketing effort--for never before enforced ordinance violations--as a revenue generating scheme. The NYPD union is compounding the problem, as well. They have a beef with the Mayor and they are writing tickets for everything under the sun. When they hand the ticket to the citizen, they tell him: "Don't blame me, blame the Mayor." The poor schmucks (like me!) that pay ALL THEIR SALARIES are getting squeezed in the middle of a political dispute. The PBA has given themselves away with a radio advertising campaign with a "Don't blame the cop..." tag line. We know damned well who to blame and I for one will oppose ANY pay increase for cops unless they cease the BS. Bloomberg is going to be a one term mayor and the police union is squandering the support of people who have always supported them. Most of the cops don't even live in the city!
This is an excellent example of how mere citizens are viewed by public servants. It's a disgrace! Last edited by wuzzagrunt; 05-22-2003 at 03:15 PM.. |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Vermont
Posts: 891
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Yeah , I know I'm with yea !
TYRANNY WILL COME TO YOUR DOOR IN A UNIFORM ! Real talk radio, if you dare : www.gcnlive.com www.prisonplanet.com |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,138
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[satire] We, the American people, must stand up and put a stop to this kind of behavior! How much longer will we tolerate these dregs of society? Aren't they aware that "hanging out" is a crime? And sitting on a milk crate has been one of the most horrendous crimes committed in the last century! We cannot let this type of behavior continue! Drinking beer and playing cards are obvious indicators that something is wrong with these people, and I for one will not tolerate it. [/satire] |
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*TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever!
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The statement by the milk company empasizing only the stealing of their cartons is equally ridiculous when set next to the charge itself.
I believe that the owner of the establishment stated the carton had been there for eons so there was no need to even infer theft as a legitimate basis for the arrest. Some might inject adverse possession and that theory might not be too far off..... What about the milk Company's negligence in not keeping up with their possessions?????? These folks are worse than the 9th Circuit, in a different way. 1984 and Brave New World are, indeed, upon us.
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