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Old 05-04-2008, 11:19 PM   #1
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Default Forehand Model 1801

My Great Great Grandfather bought this revolver when he went out west around 1890. I don't know much of the history. My Grandmother kept the gun and finally passed it on to me. I'm very happy to get to keep a piece of family history! However, I don't know a lot about the gun.

Its a double action top break revolver. The Caliber looks to be about .32, or possibly a short .38

On the top of the barrel is written:

--FOREHAND MODEL 1801--
HOPKINS & ALLENS ARMS CO. NORWICH.CT.U.S.A


On the side of the hand grip is F&W and on the bottom is Serial # 7419

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Anyone know anything about these guns? I'd love to shoot it but I want to make sure i'm going to use the right kind of Ammo. I would hate for it to be one of those "Suicide Specials" and have it blow up in my face!!

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Old 05-05-2008, 12:54 PM   #2
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Default Re: Forehand Model 1801

the actual markings should read "forehand model of 1901". this revolver was manufactured by hopkins & allen co. after they purchased the forehand arms co. between 1901 and 1917. 1917 is the year H&A went out of business and marlin took over the H&A factory to manufracture material for WWI.

the 'forehand model of 1901' was offered as a 5 shot 32 S&W (small frame) or a 5 shot 38 S&W (large frame). standard barrel length for small frame is 3 inches and for the large frame 3 1/4 inches. these revolvers were manufactured for black powder cartridge pressures only and should not be fired with modern ammo. the low serial number and the F&W grips would indicate this is an early production model using left over parts actually manufactured by forehand arms co. before the H&A take over.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:43 PM   #3
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Thanks! Good to know. Where could I find the correct ammo for it? The gun is still in pretty good shape, it was wrapped up in a dresser drawer for most of its life. I don't know if i'd fire it but it would be neat to have some of the ammo for display with the gun.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:23 PM   #4
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Thanks! Good to know. Where could I find the correct ammo for it? The gun is still in pretty good shape, it was wrapped up in a dresser drawer for most of its life. I don't know if i'd fire it but it would be neat to have some of the ammo for display with the gun.
Bill specifically told you that the gun is made for BLACK POWDER AMMO ONLY . Black powder loads are no longer made.

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Old 05-05-2008, 04:50 PM   #5
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Actually, I think some company still makes BP loads for the .32 S&W Short and Long, Winchester, I beleive. I thought I saw 'em online, probably from a Midway USA ad, or something.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:36 PM   #6
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Bill specifically told you that the gun is made for BLACK POWDER AMMO ONLY . Black powder loads are no longer made.

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Actually I believe what he said was black powder cartridge pressures only.

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Old 05-06-2008, 08:04 AM   #7
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Actually I believe what he said was black powder cartridge pressures only.
And with the rest of the sentence being....................

"and should not be fired with modern ammo."

Black powder has a totally different pressure curve than smokeless powder. Your body, your gun.
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