Info on a Savage 1899 - The Firearms Forum

bsteelma · 12-19-2010, 02:33 PM

I need some help. I have a rifle that has "Model 1899" stamped on its barrel, but I cannot find a single photo or any info on the this rifle. It was given to me by my father-in-law, and I do not even know what caliber it is (not a .22, possibly .303). It is a single shot and has a falling block action, and every photo I have seen shows the Model 1899 as a lever action. I would appreciate any help to ID the rifle. Thanks.

22shot · 12-19-2010, 03:26 PM

bsteelma

Welcome to TFF!

Look at the Stevens Ideal #44; 1894-1932.

I see the barrel is stamped "Savage High Pressure Steel" but maybe at the time they just made barrels for Stevens?

Great pics!

RJay · 12-19-2010, 03:43 PM

It is a Stevens single shot but it has been re barreled, possible from an obsolete caliber to a more readily available one. These old Stevens that have been re chambered and/or re barreled are not that uncommon. The only way to determine the caliber it is to have a chamber cast made. That's why the barrel reads Model 1899.

hrf · 12-19-2010, 04:16 PM

It's not a Stevens, but a Winchester Lo-Wall that has had a Savage 99 barrel installed. The Stevens frame is square where it meets the stock, versus the curved contour of the Winchester, and the action design is also different.

bsteelma · 12-19-2010, 04:16 PM

Thanks for the fast replies. I will look into the info provided. Also, here is a picture of some data on the lower reciever tang; "Pat Oct 7th 79" and the serial number. Sorry I didn't add this in the original post. Thanks.

22shot · 12-19-2010, 04:18 PM

bsteelma

The Stevens#44 was availible in .22LR; .25RF;.32RF; 25-20; 32-20; 32-40; 38-40; and 44-40. Sorry; no .303 British.

The barrels were 24 or 26 inches; round; half octagon; and full octagon.
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Yours has a full octogon.

hrf · 12-19-2010, 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=bsteelma;696524] Also, here is a picture of some data on the lower reciever tang; "Pat Oct 7th 79" and the serial number. QUOTE]

That is the Winchester patent date and serial number. Flayderman's guide states that those before approx. serial 84700 were made before Dec 31, 1898, so yours is legally an antique.

bsteelma · 12-19-2010, 04:41 PM

hrf,

Looks like you nailed. I researched the model you mentioned and that's it. I will get a chamber cast made to determine the caliber.

Thanks to everyone for your fast responses, this has been driving me nuts for the last several days. Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas.

22shot · 12-19-2010, 04:57 PM

Good call; hrf

I was hung up on the Savage/Stevens thing!

Merry Christmas to all!

12-19-2010, 02:33 PM	#1
bsteelma Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3	Info on a Savage 1899 I need some help. I have a rifle that has "Model 1899" stamped on its barrel, but I cannot find a single photo or any info on the this rifle. It was given to me by my father-in-law, and I do not even know what caliber it is (not a .22, possibly .303). It is a single shot and has a falling block action, and every photo I have seen shows the Model 1899 as a lever action. I would appreciate any help to ID the rifle. Thanks. Attached Images -->

12-19-2010, 03:26 PM	#2
22shot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 376	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 bsteelma Welcome to TFF! Look at the Stevens Ideal #44; 1894-1932. I see the barrel is stamped "Savage High Pressure Steel" but maybe at the time they just made barrels for Stevens? Great pics! Last edited by 22shot; 12-19-2010 at 03:29 PM..

12-19-2010, 03:43 PM	#3
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,487	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 It is a Stevens single shot but it has been re barreled, possible from an obsolete caliber to a more readily available one. These old Stevens that have been re chambered and/or re barreled are not that uncommon. The only way to determine the caliber it is to have a chamber cast made. That's why the barrel reads Model 1899. __________________ RonJames

12-19-2010, 04:16 PM	#5
bsteelma Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 Thanks for the fast replies. I will look into the info provided. Also, here is a picture of some data on the lower reciever tang; "Pat Oct 7th 79" and the serial number. Sorry I didn't add this in the original post. Thanks. Attached Images

12-19-2010, 04:18 PM	#6
22shot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 376	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 bsteelma The Stevens#44 was availible in .22LR; .25RF;.32RF; 25-20; 32-20; 32-40; 38-40; and 44-40. Sorry; no .303 British. The barrels were 24 or 26 inches; round; half octagon; and full octagon. \| Yours has a full octogon.

12-19-2010, 04:16 PM	#4
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,283	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 It's not a Stevens, but a Winchester Lo-Wall that has had a Savage 99 barrel installed. The Stevens frame is square where it meets the stock, versus the curved contour of the Winchester, and the action design is also different.

12-19-2010, 04:27 PM	#7
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,283	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 [QUOTE=bsteelma;696524] Also, here is a picture of some data on the lower reciever tang; "Pat Oct 7th 79" and the serial number. QUOTE] That is the Winchester patent date and serial number. Flayderman's guide states that those before approx. serial 84700 were made before Dec 31, 1898, so yours is legally an antique. Last edited by hrf; 12-19-2010 at 04:41 PM..

12-19-2010, 04:41 PM	#8
bsteelma Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 hrf, Looks like you nailed. I researched the model you mentioned and that's it. I will get a chamber cast made to determine the caliber. Thanks to everyone for your fast responses, this has been driving me nuts for the last several days. Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas.

12-19-2010, 04:57 PM	#9
22shot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 376	Re: Info on a Savage 1899 Good call; hrf I was hung up on the Savage/Stevens thing! Merry Christmas to all!