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44stevenson · 02-27-2011, 07:11 PM

I was trying to reload .223 with out the full length sizer die cuz mine is messed up right now. The case neck is too big for the bullet, is this the reason why or is something else not set right?

muddober · 02-27-2011, 07:49 PM

Yes, the case expands upon firing and the neck if nothing else has to be resized down to accommodate the bullet. I am assuming your are not using any resizing what so ever.

Ron

312shooter · 02-27-2011, 10:19 PM

44,

Not to be a smart a** or anything but that is the first mechanical step in reloading, which is described in detail per any reputable reloading manuals. Reading this type of post leads me to believe you didn't partake in your own due dilligence before starting.....?

44stevenson · 02-28-2011, 06:53 PM

312,

Actually I have read up quite a bit, my resizing die is currently broke due to a stuck case, I was just double checking as to what exactly the full length sizer die does because I've asked it other ways and couldn't get a repsonse.

312shooter · 02-28-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 44stevenson

312,

Actually I have read up quite a bit, my resizing die is currently broke due to a stuck case, I was just double checking as to what exactly the full length sizer die does because I've asked it other ways and couldn't get a repsonse.

In that case read this: http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/ProcTapStuckCaseFromDie

And buy this: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=504741

woolleyworm · 02-28-2011, 08:29 PM

Here's a rifle sizing die that is broken down into pieces. What is happening when you're FL resizing is 3 main things

1 - decapping

2 - returning the outside dimensions of the case back to spec

3 - AFTER the case is resized, the expander ball, which is already inside the case, is pulled back through the sized neck and is not ready to seat the bullet with the proper tension.

Since the neck has not been reduced in size back to SAAMI spec and then expanded, this is why the bullets are dropping through.

When neck sizing, you are only slightly bumping the shoulder and then sizing the neck of the case back down, the remainder of the case stays at the dimension of the specific rifles chamber. The expander ball is the same.

Hope this better explains it for you.

DGG! · 03-01-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 44stevenson

I was trying to reload .223 with out the full length sizer die cuz mine is messed up right now. The case neck is too big for the bullet, is this the reason why or is something else not set right?

My suggestion cost $20. Get a cartridge gage and make sure your reloads easily drop in and out of it. If not, something is out of SAAMI spec and you need to make adjustments. This should only happen to the first couple of rounds. You will quickly see where the dimensions are out of whack.

Spend the $20, it will save you hours and ensure that all your loads will easily chamber in any gun of that caliber.

http://www.intlmidway.com/intl/eprod...eitemid=645976

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muddober Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,436	Re: bullet doesnt fit? Yes, the case expands upon firing and the neck if nothing else has to be resized down to accommodate the bullet. I am assuming your are not using any resizing what so ever. Ron Last edited by muddober; 02-27-2011 at 07:53 PM..

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312shooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 1,148	Re: bullet doesnt fit? 44, Not to be a smart a** or anything but that is the first mechanical step in reloading, which is described in detail per any reputable reloading manuals. Reading this type of post leads me to believe you didn't partake in your own due dilligence before starting.....? __________________ "Democracy is based on citizenship- perhaps the greatest gift the United States has given to the world- Power is vested in the people themselves, and government flows from the people" James M Henslin

02-28-2011, 06:53 PM	#4
44stevenson V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 60	Re: bullet doesnt fit? 312, Actually I have read up quite a bit, my resizing die is currently broke due to a stuck case, I was just double checking as to what exactly the full length sizer die does because I've asked it other ways and couldn't get a repsonse.

02-28-2011, 08:29 PM	#6
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,885	Re: bullet doesnt fit? Here's a rifle sizing die that is broken down into pieces. What is happening when you're FL resizing is 3 main things 1 - decapping 2 - returning the outside dimensions of the case back to spec 3 - AFTER the case is resized, the expander ball, which is already inside the case, is pulled back through the sized neck and is not ready to seat the bullet with the proper tension. Since the neck has not been reduced in size back to SAAMI spec and then expanded, this is why the bullets are dropping through. When neck sizing, you are only slightly bumping the shoulder and then sizing the neck of the case back down, the remainder of the case stays at the dimension of the specific rifles chamber. The expander ball is the same. Hope this better explains it for you. Attached Images __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .