i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 08:23 AM

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All respected contemporary understanding of homosexuality tells us that sexual orientation is a inherent aspect of personal identity. We believe that some of God’s children are gay and lesbian because God has seen it fit to create them as such. All of God’s creation is good and as such we welcome our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters in the fullness of the life of the church. Sacramental limitations on marriage and ordination are rejected. As such, we joyfully united same sex couples in the Sacrament of Matrimony and ordain qualified gays and lesbians called by God.

take a guess who's web page this came from ???

and guess what they have endorsed in all thier schools in your nation ?

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 08:24 AM

Ebola is also a good thing then by these folks description , can someone send em some so they may share the goodness ??

CHW2021 · 10-17-2012, 08:37 AM

Fine, let them enjoy the same tax benefits I get. Also, at least they shouldn't be reproducing........

al45lc · 10-17-2012, 08:44 AM

I always have a problem with all encompassing statements, "all of God's creation is good", for example.
No, it isn't. Hitler was NOT good, nor is malaria.

76Highboy · 10-17-2012, 09:00 AM

http://americannationalcatholicchurc...about/beliefs/

Yep Jack, God will have something to say about it in the end.

time2shoot · 10-17-2012, 09:10 AM

Did not GOD destroy Sadom and Gamora becouse he saw there wickedness.

bamajoey · 10-17-2012, 10:09 AM

Apparently the American National Catholic Church does NOT use the same Bible that I use. God did NOT create anyone gay.(I hate using that word for that. Queer or preverted is a better word). Man laying with man and women laying with women is a abomination in Gods sight.

carver · 10-17-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bamajoey

Apparently the American National Catholic Church does NOT use the same Bible that I use. God did NOT create anyone gay.(I hate using that word for that. Queer or preverted is a better word). Man laying with man and women laying with women is a abomination in Gods sight.

Then don't use the word gay to describe a queer, I don't! And this is just another example of why there are so many different bibles in the world today. Everyone wants to have a bible that reflects their own beliefs, so they just print one!

ozo · 10-17-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

Then don't use the word gay to describe a queer, I don't! And this is just another example of why there are so many different bibles in the world today. Everyone wants to have a bible that reflects their own beliefs, so they just print one!

Yes, this IS religion.......

targetacqmgt · 10-17-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by al45lc

I always have a problem with all encompassing statements, "all of God's creation is good", for example.
No, it isn't. Hitler was NOT good, nor is malaria.

Yes but both kept and keeps the world wide population down

Not that I approve.

montezumaz · 10-17-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 76Highboy

Yep Jack, God will have something to say about it IN THE END.

hogger129 · 10-17-2012, 10:57 PM

I went on their website and Googled them a bit. Sounds like they are just a "progressive," pro-homosexual, splinter group calling themselves Catholic.

I've been a member of the Roman Catholic Church all my life and I was about 99.99% sure the stance of the RCC was against homosexuals. I forget which passage exactly, but the Bible says that a man should not lie with another man like he would with a woman.

I have a problem with them calling themselves Catholic - their own website says they have no connection to the Roman Catholic Church - and what it sounds like is they're just trying to form their own religious institution so that they can weasel their way into redefining marriage.

I don't think God creates anybody to be homosexual. I think homosexuality is simply a mental problem and the only reason psychologists don't look at it that way anymore is because of political correctness.

I don't really care what homosexual people do in their own private lives. I have a problem with it when they try to force people to accept it.

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 11:24 PM

who knows but they are a invited contributor to the National school curriculum or what ever you folks call it

so there is a "christian input" as they called it

teaching gay is good and islam is good but hard core Christians are scary and dangerous

this is orwellian

ministry of truth stuff

me? i dunno , i just see all this as more of the same old attacks on Faith in general

divisions splits moles plants

and i do mean moles and plants

look at the baptist college in Australia , 5 folks who all joined the same year no real church history before then and now are pushing the gay agenda , the islamic acceptance and shoving tradition and faith aside in favour of political correctness agenda that coulda come from 220 marshall ( address of socialist HQ here )

and i suspect highly it in fact did

this smells of goudcamp ( a socialist leader here with a very very good education is subversion and infiltration but then again he is also a union leader in the teachers union here so its to be expected )

what do you do ?

no-one got the balls to stand up and call these groups heratics ( but fire from the hip at everyone else, as i've witnessed over the past months )

and when someone does like i did here

the rest stand round and defend them with a puzzled look on their faces asking themselves why they are defending these mutt's , these liars , these perverters of Good and Holy things

but yet they do

its like we're being reprogrammed ,

good is hate

evil is good

and anything opposing that must be silenced at any cost

lawfull or not , is ok ..

targetacqmgt · 10-17-2012, 11:27 PM

Ja orwellian for sure. Ah new speak.

hobby_mesa · 10-18-2012, 10:39 AM

I've been a member of the Roman Catholic Church all my life and I was about 99.99% sure the stance of the RCC was against homosexuals. I forget which passage exactly, but the Bible says that a man should not lie with another man like he would with a woman.

I believe that reference is in Exodus. It's one of the verses setting down "the law" (ten commandments).

It's also VERY plain leaving no wiggle room for interpretation.

45silverback · 10-18-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by targetacqmgt

Ja orwellian for sure. Ah new speak.

I just re-read 1984.... Chilling.

10-17-2012, 08:24 AM	#2
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong Ebola is also a good thing then by these folks description , can someone send em some so they may share the goodness ??

10-17-2012, 08:37 AM	#3
CHW2021 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 467	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong Fine, let them enjoy the same tax benefits I get. Also, at least they shouldn't be reproducing........

10-17-2012, 08:44 AM	#4
al45lc Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: colorful colorado Posts: 1,016	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong I always have a problem with all encompassing statements, "all of God's creation is good", for example. No, it isn't. Hitler was NOT good, nor is malaria. __________________ You are what you do, when it counts.

10-17-2012, 09:00 AM	#5
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 6,968	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong http://americannationalcatholicchurc...about/beliefs/ Yep Jack, God will have something to say about it in the end.

10-17-2012, 09:10 AM	#6
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,600	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong Did not GOD destroy Sadom and Gamora becouse he saw there wickedness. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

10-17-2012, 10:09 AM	#7
bamajoey Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pensacola Contributor Posts: 1,260	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong Apparently the American National Catholic Church does NOT use the same Bible that I use. God did NOT create anyone gay.(I hate using that word for that. Queer or preverted is a better word). Man laying with man and women laying with women is a abomination in Gods sight.

10-17-2012, 10:57 PM	#12
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,067	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong I went on their website and Googled them a bit. Sounds like they are just a "progressive," pro-homosexual, splinter group calling themselves Catholic. I've been a member of the Roman Catholic Church all my life and I was about 99.99% sure the stance of the RCC was against homosexuals. I forget which passage exactly, but the Bible says that a man should not lie with another man like he would with a woman. I have a problem with them calling themselves Catholic - their own website says they have no connection to the Roman Catholic Church - and what it sounds like is they're just trying to form their own religious institution so that they can weasel their way into redefining marriage. I don't think God creates anybody to be homosexual. I think homosexuality is simply a mental problem and the only reason psychologists don't look at it that way anymore is because of political correctness. I don't really care what homosexual people do in their own private lives. I have a problem with it when they try to force people to accept it. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 10-17-2012 at 11:17 PM..

10-17-2012, 11:24 PM	#13
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong who knows but they are a invited contributor to the National school curriculum or what ever you folks call it so there is a "christian input" as they called it teaching gay is good and islam is good but hard core Christians are scary and dangerous this is orwellian ministry of truth stuff me? i dunno , i just see all this as more of the same old attacks on Faith in general divisions splits moles plants and i do mean moles and plants look at the baptist college in Australia , 5 folks who all joined the same year no real church history before then and now are pushing the gay agenda , the islamic acceptance and shoving tradition and faith aside in favour of political correctness agenda that coulda come from 220 marshall ( address of socialist HQ here ) and i suspect highly it in fact did this smells of goudcamp ( a socialist leader here with a very very good education is subversion and infiltration but then again he is also a union leader in the teachers union here so its to be expected ) what do you do ? no-one got the balls to stand up and call these groups heratics ( but fire from the hip at everyone else, as i've witnessed over the past months ) and when someone does like i did here the rest stand round and defend them with a puzzled look on their faces asking themselves why they are defending these mutt's , these liars , these perverters of Good and Holy things but yet they do its like we're being reprogrammed , good is hate evil is good and anything opposing that must be silenced at any cost lawfull or not , is ok .. Last edited by jack404; 10-17-2012 at 11:26 PM..

10-17-2012, 11:27 PM	#14
targetacqmgt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 494	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong Ja orwellian for sure. Ah new speak.

10-18-2012, 10:39 AM	#15
hobby_mesa V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 358	Re: i'm such a putz , i got it all wrong I've been a member of the Roman Catholic Church all my life and I was about 99.99% sure the stance of the RCC was against homosexuals. I forget which passage exactly, but the Bible says that a man should not lie with another man like he would with a woman. I believe that reference is in Exodus. It's one of the verses setting down "the law" (ten commandments). It's also VERY plain leaving no wiggle room for interpretation.