Obama explains explosives found on planes - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 10-29-2010, 06:05 PM

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225945418364

PRESIDENT Barack Obama confirmed today that suspicious packages found aboard cargo planes in Dubai and central England contained explosive materials.
Earlier this morning US fighter jets escorted a civilian plane to New York after it was determined to be "an aircraft of interest" as it flew into Canadian and then American airspace, the US-Canadian military agency NORAD said.

NORAD did not identify the plane in its statement, but US media said it was Emirates Airlines flight 201 from the United Arab Emirates, and was intercepted because it has cargo from Yemen on board.

"Out of an abundance of caution, the North American Aerospace Defense Command diverted two Canadian CF-18s to track a civilian aircraft that was determined to be an aircraft of interest as it flew into and over Canadian airspace,'' NORAD said in a statement.

"The civilian aircraft was passed to two US F-15s as it transited into US airspace and its ultimate destination at JFK airport."

TWO other suspicious packages intercepted on cargo planes in transit to the United States were addressed to religious institutions in Chicago, the FBI said today as Jewish synagogues were placed on alert.

Aviation officials said planes at Philadelphia International Airport and Newark Liberty Airport in the US were towed away to be checked after police found a suspicious package on a US cargo plane at a regional British airport.

The US Transportation Security Administration said that it was monitoring reports of potentially suspicious items.

"Out of an abundance of caution the planes were moved to a remote location where they are being met by law enforcement officials and swept," the TSA said.

Authorities in Britain confirmed that a suspicious package had been found early today in a freight distribution centre at East Midlands Airport in central England.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...#ixzz13nO3IySY

BETH · 10-29-2010, 06:33 PM

I am surprised he heard about it he and his wife have been spending so much time in Connecticut he might as well buy a house hear, he is sure scared the republicans are going to get in

hogger129 · 10-30-2010, 06:02 AM

I was sort of thinking that the packages were set up to be found. Like they were trying to test our response to it.

What do you think Jack?

TheGunClinger · 10-30-2010, 07:18 AM

How did he find the time to do his actual job whilst flying Air Force 1 all around the country with his huge entourage at OUR expense trying to drum up votes for HIS party. I's certainly like to know how much money that us taxpayers paid for all of his and his wifes trips and associated costs like secret service, teleprompter programmers, etc. has cost us. I thought he was supposed to be everybodys President. Sorry for getting off course here. I was just amazed that he found time to do his job.

pinecone70 · 10-30-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGunClinger

....how much money that us taxpayers paid for all of his and his wifes trips and associated costs like secret service, teleprompter programmers, etc. has cost us...

Don't forget the endless sea of booze michelle and her pals consume.

Gun Geezer · 10-30-2010, 10:02 AM

Yemen is a cesspool of terrorist activities. Its government doesn't have control over the entire country, poverty is rampant and we are now going to give them almost a billion dollars of taxpayers money to help them fight Al Qeada. That'll be like throwing money down a rathole. A couple of A-bombs would be cheaper and surer.

3/2 STA SS · 10-30-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

Yemen is a cesspool of terrorist activities. Its government doesn't have control over the entire country, poverty is rampant and we are now going to give them almost a billion dollars of taxpayers money to help them fight Al Qeada. That'll be like throwing money down a rathole. A couple of A-bombs would be cheaper and surer.

There are areas of Yemen the governement there wno't even venture into. That Country has been out of control for years. Turn it into a sheet of Glass. We won't lose on troop.

glocknut · 10-30-2010, 11:28 AM

I am suspicious of the timing of this whole thing. obozo goes on the air and sounds like he is in charge and taking care of things just days before the upcoming elections. Smells fishy....

mike
gn

dons2346 · 10-30-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by glocknut

I am suspicious of the timing of this whole thing. obozo goes on the air and sounds like he is in charge and taking care of things just days before the upcoming elections. Smells fishy....

mike
gn

....and rotten in Denmark.

RunningOnMT · 10-30-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

Yemen is a cesspool of terrorist activities. Its government doesn't have control over the entire country, poverty is rampant and we are now going to give them almost a billion dollars of taxpayers money to help them fight Al Qeada. That'll be like throwing money down a rathole. A couple of A-bombs would be cheaper and surer.

+1

RunningOnMT · 10-30-2010, 04:56 PM

I am still wondering about the printer cartridges containing PETN that were bound for U.S. synagogues. Were they or were they not in a state which would detonate when received or used? I've heard conflicting reports.

From what i've read it requires a detonator. I couldn't find anything about a triggering device. So why if it were a test run would they use an actual explosive, but if on the other hand it was actually intended to blow things up, wouldn't it contain all the required components....unless it was intended to be received by someone here who would then prepare the final components for it's use. But synagogues???

Bobitis · 10-30-2010, 06:04 PM

The whole issue stinks of fabricated 'crisis'.

jack404 · 10-30-2010, 06:41 PM

but do you notice this crisis is again a muslim one ? killing jews is normal for them so its just another day in oblivion ..

Obozo takes command , yeah right

trying to capitalise the situation

but he's the main blockage to stopping this crap

Nuke the middle east , nuke yemen and whats left wont be able to post anything to anyone

job done

TheGunClinger · 10-31-2010, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pinecone70

Don't forget the endless sea of booze michelle and her pals consume.

As someone we all know would say, "Heh".

Jack's onto something with the nukes.

Trouble 45-70 · 10-31-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGunClinger

As someone we all know would say, "Heh".

Jack's onto something with the nukes.

Maybe we could use the ones that Obama wants to deactivate anyway. Save the cost of dismantling.

ampaterry · 10-31-2010, 04:05 PM

Turn those surplus nukes into glass-paved self-lighting parking lots.

Good idea, Jack!

Marlin T · 10-31-2010, 05:30 PM

Al queada and other terrorist organizations are not only operating out of Yemen, but they are relocating to N Africa too and have been for some years.

Where the Gov is weak, islam is growing stronger. This of course is excluding those countries that are not sharia law already.

Speaking of sharia, I don't see why the US or any other freedom loving country would send any aid in the form of cash to a place that is based on Islamic law as Yemen IS.

They are getting stronger every day while the world sits back and basically does nothing.

hogger129 · 10-31-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlin T

Al queada and other terrorist organizations are not only operating out of Yemen, but they are relocating to N Africa too and have been for some years.

Where the Gov is weak, islam is growing stronger. This of course is excluding those countries that are not sharia law already.

Speaking of sharia, I don't see why the US or any other freedom loving country would send any aid in the form of cash to a place that is based on Islamic law as Yemen IS.

They are getting stronger every day while the world sits back and basically does nothing.

Let Israel off the leash and there will be no more Muslim terrorists over there. American leaders, as well as much of the international community, holds them back in my opinion. And anytime Israel gets outnumbered and levels the playing field, they get yelled at for it. Kind of like when all those ships were sending "supplies" into Gaza. But nobody ever took a look at who sent them. A Muslim extremist group and that "Free Gaza" group.

The source of the problem over there in my opinion stems from two places. The Palestinians and the Iranians.

I also find it difficult to believe we can't beat them. Didn't our Navy SEAL teams and Delta Force basically wipe out the Medellin Cartel in Columbia in the early 1990s? Our CIA was able to topple & overthrow dozens of governments with considerable ease. Many of whom were more well armed and who were a more hardened fighting force than some Muslim terrorists.

I don't think they want this to stop. With a war to fight, lots of businesses over here make a profit. There's a lot of money involved in it. Don't get me wrong. I do think that there is a threat out there. But let's face it. What did Iraq have to do with 9/11? Did they ever find the WMDs? I guess it's better now than it was. But the question is, was it really worth it?

Also... I don't know what the rules of engagement are as I have never served in the military. But military leaders say they need to be changed. So I don't know why our politicians don't trust their own military leaders enough to listen to what they have to say and do it.

hogger129 · 10-31-2010, 08:44 PM

Anyone ever stopped to think that this whole "Yemen" thing could be a diversion so we take our eyes of off Pakistan where Osama is thought to be in hiding?

What if we simply pulled our military forces out of there, drawing out these people, and then we get em?

Big ugly · 10-31-2010, 09:24 PM

Look Osama is Good for Buisness in terms of politics. In the name of Osama and the Taliban and Terrorism we have had Policy after Policy and Homeland Securiety shoved down our throats. Our government or other world governmsnts have absolutly no intention of getting his hide.

jack404 · 10-31-2010, 10:43 PM

BIG Ugly is 100% correct

a good friend of mine runs a PMC , based out of Dubai as Australia wont let him run it here

he's asked three times to go after Bin laden and been told if they enter pakistan they will be arrested , they where told BY THE US >>>>>

most of their contracts are for the US , but they cant go after Bin Laden , and Sandline boss, Bazil Corbury, said similar just after he closed down in 2004 ( i think, maybe 2003)

and i know in 2002 US troops where forced to pull back , at Tora Bora, and let the mongrel and a lot of his mutts loose

no-one has ever explained why ..

its stinks it stinks it stinks ...

ofitg · 11-01-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jack404

BIG Ugly is 100% correct

a good friend of mine runs a PMC , based out of Dubai as Australia wont let him run it here

he's asked three times to go after Bin laden and been told if they enter pakistan they will be arrested , they where told BY THE US >>>>>

most of their contracts are for the US , but they cant go after Bin Laden , and Sandline boss, Bazil Corbury, said similar just after he closed down in 2004 ( i think, maybe 2003)

and i know in 2002 US troops where forced to pull back , at Tora Bora, and let the mongrel and a lot of his mutts loose

no-one has ever explained why ..

its stinks it stinks it stinks ...

As far back as I can remember, the U.S. Gov't has been declaring so-called "wars" on various issues..... War on Poverty, War on Drugs, War on Terror..... but the politicians have no intention of winning these "wars".

As long as they can go on conducting these "wars", without actually winning, they can pass more unconstitutional laws, implement more socialist programs, and tighten the UN's noose around our necks.

hogger129 · 11-01-2010, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

BIG Ugly is 100% correct

a good friend of mine runs a PMC , based out of Dubai as Australia wont let him run it here

he's asked three times to go after Bin laden and been told if they enter pakistan they will be arrested , they where told BY THE US >>>>>

most of their contracts are for the US , but they cant go after Bin Laden , and Sandline boss, Bazil Corbury, said similar just after he closed down in 2004 ( i think, maybe 2003)

and i know in 2002 US troops where forced to pull back , at Tora Bora, and let the mongrel and a lot of his mutts loose

no-one has ever explained why ..

its stinks it stinks it stinks ...

Conspiracy?

jack404 · 11-01-2010, 04:17 PM

i personally think they are too busy pleaseing every liberal twit and twat in the place that they block real action by default

Jeff Midguard · 11-01-2010, 05:18 PM

One more thing...
If you're in the habit of ordering ammo online, you might think about stocking up
quickly before they tighten up shipping restrictions in the wake of this.

10-29-2010, 06:05 PM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Obama explains explosives found on planes http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1225945418364 PRESIDENT Barack Obama confirmed today that suspicious packages found aboard cargo planes in Dubai and central England contained explosive materials. Earlier this morning US fighter jets escorted a civilian plane to New York after it was determined to be "an aircraft of interest" as it flew into Canadian and then American airspace, the US-Canadian military agency NORAD said. NORAD did not identify the plane in its statement, but US media said it was Emirates Airlines flight 201 from the United Arab Emirates, and was intercepted because it has cargo from Yemen on board. "Out of an abundance of caution, the North American Aerospace Defense Command diverted two Canadian CF-18s to track a civilian aircraft that was determined to be an aircraft of interest as it flew into and over Canadian airspace,'' NORAD said in a statement. "The civilian aircraft was passed to two US F-15s as it transited into US airspace and its ultimate destination at JFK airport." TWO other suspicious packages intercepted on cargo planes in transit to the United States were addressed to religious institutions in Chicago, the FBI said today as Jewish synagogues were placed on alert. Aviation officials said planes at Philadelphia International Airport and Newark Liberty Airport in the US were towed away to be checked after police found a suspicious package on a US cargo plane at a regional British airport. The US Transportation Security Administration said that it was monitoring reports of potentially suspicious items. "Out of an abundance of caution the planes were moved to a remote location where they are being met by law enforcement officials and swept," the TSA said. Authorities in Britain confirmed that a suspicious package had been found early today in a freight distribution centre at East Midlands Airport in central England. Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...#ixzz13nO3IySY -->

10-29-2010, 06:33 PM	#2
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,684	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes I am surprised he heard about it he and his wife have been spending so much time in Connecticut he might as well buy a house hear, he is sure scared the republicans are going to get in

10-30-2010, 06:02 AM	#3
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,078	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes I was sort of thinking that the packages were set up to be found. Like they were trying to test our response to it. What do you think Jack?

10-30-2010, 07:18 AM	#4
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,399	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes How did he find the time to do his actual job whilst flying Air Force 1 all around the country with his huge entourage at OUR expense trying to drum up votes for HIS party. I's certainly like to know how much money that us taxpayers paid for all of his and his wifes trips and associated costs like secret service, teleprompter programmers, etc. has cost us. I thought he was supposed to be everybodys President. Sorry for getting off course here. I was just amazed that he found time to do his job. __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year.

10-30-2010, 10:02 AM	#6
Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,715	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes Yemen is a cesspool of terrorist activities. Its government doesn't have control over the entire country, poverty is rampant and we are now going to give them almost a billion dollars of taxpayers money to help them fight Al Qeada. That'll be like throwing money down a rathole. A couple of A-bombs would be cheaper and surer.

10-30-2010, 11:28 AM	#8
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes I am suspicious of the timing of this whole thing. obozo goes on the air and sounds like he is in charge and taking care of things just days before the upcoming elections. Smells fishy.... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

10-30-2010, 04:56 PM	#11
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes I am still wondering about the printer cartridges containing PETN that were bound for U.S. synagogues. Were they or were they not in a state which would detonate when received or used? I've heard conflicting reports. From what i've read it requires a detonator. I couldn't find anything about a triggering device. So why if it were a test run would they use an actual explosive, but if on the other hand it was actually intended to blow things up, wouldn't it contain all the required components....unless it was intended to be received by someone here who would then prepare the final components for it's use. But synagogues???

10-30-2010, 06:04 PM	#12
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes The whole issue stinks of fabricated 'crisis'. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

10-30-2010, 06:41 PM	#13
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes but do you notice this crisis is again a muslim one ? killing jews is normal for them so its just another day in oblivion .. Obozo takes command , yeah right trying to capitalise the situation but he's the main blockage to stopping this crap Nuke the middle east , nuke yemen and whats left wont be able to post anything to anyone job done

10-31-2010, 04:05 PM	#16
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,376	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes Turn those surplus nukes into glass-paved self-lighting parking lots. Good idea, Jack! __________________ Reason given by one of Obama's more intellectual supporters when asked why she voted for him: *"He gave me a PHONE!!"*

10-31-2010, 05:30 PM	#17
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes Al queada and other terrorist organizations are not only operating out of Yemen, but they are relocating to N Africa too and have been for some years. Where the Gov is weak, islam is growing stronger. This of course is excluding those countries that are not sharia law already. Speaking of sharia, I don't see why the US or any other freedom loving country would send any aid in the form of cash to a place that is based on Islamic law as Yemen IS. They are getting stronger every day while the world sits back and basically does nothing. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

10-31-2010, 08:44 PM	#19
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,078	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes Anyone ever stopped to think that this whole "Yemen" thing could be a diversion so we take our eyes of off Pakistan where Osama is thought to be in hiding? What if we simply pulled our military forces out of there, drawing out these people, and then we get em?

10-31-2010, 09:24 PM	#20
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes Look Osama is Good for Buisness in terms of politics. In the name of Osama and the Taliban and Terrorism we have had Policy after Policy and Homeland Securiety shoved down our throats. Our government or other world governmsnts have absolutly no intention of getting his hide. __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

10-31-2010, 10:43 PM	#21
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes BIG Ugly is 100% correct a good friend of mine runs a PMC , based out of Dubai as Australia wont let him run it here he's asked three times to go after Bin laden and been told if they enter pakistan they will be arrested , they where told BY THE US >>>>> most of their contracts are for the US , but they cant go after Bin Laden , and Sandline boss, Bazil Corbury, said similar just after he closed down in 2004 ( i think, maybe 2003) and i know in 2002 US troops where forced to pull back , at Tora Bora, and let the mongrel and a lot of his mutts loose no-one has ever explained why .. its stinks it stinks it stinks ... Last edited by jack404; 10-31-2010 at 10:46 PM..

11-01-2010, 04:17 PM	#24
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes i personally think they are too busy pleaseing every liberal twit and twat in the place that they block real action by default

11-01-2010, 05:18 PM	#25
Jeff Midguard V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Baja Arizona Posts: 233	Re: Obama explains explosives found on planes One more thing... If you're in the habit of ordering ammo online, you might think about stocking up quickly before they tighten up shipping restrictions in the wake of this.