Why Does It Seem That Jews Are Democtats?

[gaowlpoop]

This is a serious post on my part. I am not being anti-Semitic or anti-anything, I just want to know.

It seems to me that Jews, in general, vote Democrat. My brain simply can not understand that considering the history of repression, subjugation, murder and attempted genocide on the Jewish people.

It would seem to me that if I had such a heritage that the Democrat Party would be the last people on Earth that I would want to support.

Can someone help me out here?

[armedandsafe]

I think it is a carry over from WWII, when the Democrats were in power to execute the war, rather than execute Jews. I've not spoken to many Jewish Democrats, so I can't say for sure.

The American Jewish mindset confuses me. Some of them feel Israel is doing the right, proper, and just thing by arming all citizens, yet think and actively attempt to disarm American citizens. I've never been able to get anyone in that mindset to connect the dots.

Pops

[gaowlpoop]

Help me out here folks. Someone must have some more information.

[USMC-03]

Try reading Radical Son by David Horowitz. Here is his web site: http://frontpagemag.com/

[40CalJoe]

There was a guy that just wrote a book on this topic. He is was on the Fox Early news show on Monday or Tuesday. Basically he said it gets back to loyalty to the Dem's who were in power at the of WWII and were instrumental in helping Israel establish itself as a nation in 47. I will try to find the name of the book and post it.
Here's a couple of articles I found in the meantime.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/...and_the_j.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2028141/posts

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...116901498.html

[40CalJoe]

The name of the author of that book I was referring to is"Why are Jews Liberals" written by Norman Podhoretz, published by Doubleday.

[GMFWoodchuck]

The answer is simple. It may sound racist or prejudice or whatever, but it's the truth.

There are two kinds of Jews. The first being real Jewish people. Those who actively participtate in their religion and study their own history. These aren't always "democrats." The second type are those who are born of the heritage. Not really Jewish. They only call themselves Jewish because they were born of Jewish lineage. Grandparents or whatever. These are those that you are talking about. There are alot of them and they are a rather vocal group. But in the reality is that thay are not Jewish anymore than you or I, being that to be a Jewish person is to believe in the Jewish religion. They seem to confuse it with race. Race and ideology are two different things. Just like being an Arab is to belong to a race. A Muslim belongs to a religion. You can have an Arabic Jew and a White Muslim.

I hope I didn't ramble into confusion there.....

[Alpo]

I disagree. "Jew" is both a race and a religion. I know many Jews that are "non-practicing", but they are still Jews.

I also disagree with "Jews are Democrats" and "Jews are anti-gun". The Jews that seem to be making all the noise, and getting all the notice are from New York, San Francisco, Washington DC. Places that are full of Democrats and anti-gun people. The Jews that are spread out over the country, are just like the Christians. They worship their God the way they want to. The vote Republican or Democrat. They own guns or they don't. They believe in taking care of themselves, or in the nanny-state. They are people.

Saying, "I am not being racist", when asking, "Why are all blacks thieves?", or "Why are all Mexicans lazy?", does not stop it from being a racist question. It's the same with "Why are all Jews Democrats?" When you lump an entire race of people together, and say, "They are ________", it does not matter whether you are praising them or disparaging them, it is racist.

[TranterUK]

Thanks ALPO for that good common sense post. I could not have put it better.

[Suwannee Tim]

It is a fact, not racist or anti-Semitic, just a fact that Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat and are overwhelmingly liberal with all that denotes and connotes including supporting gun control. I'll not presume to explain it but refer you to Dennis Prager, a very thoughtful Jew who might be able to shed some light on it.

http://www.dennisprager.com/


Also, Rabbi Mermelstein (who is also Jewish):

http://www.gunownersalliance.com/

Lots and lots of Jews are not observant. Unlike most other religions, if you are born of a Jewish mother you are considered Jewish as it is both a race of people and a religion.

Originally Posted by Alpo

Saying, "I am not being racist", when asking, "Why are all blacks thieves?", or "Why are all Mexicans lazy?", does not stop it from being a racist question. It's the same with "Why are all Jews Democrats?" When you lump an entire race of people together, and say, "They are ________", it does not matter whether you are praising them or disparaging them, it is racist.

I disagree altogether with Alpo as asking this question is not akin to asking if most blacks are criminals, etc. as most blacks are demonstrably not criminals. It is more akin to asking "why do most blacks vote Democrat?" as most do, an objective fact. Not racist, simply a fact. It is an objective fact that Jews are liberal and vote Democrat. A fact.

Here is a definition of racism:

The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

If you observe that blacks seem to do well in professional basketball while most physicists are white, you are making a racist, though true observation.

[Alpo]

Just from curiosity, since voting is secret, how do you know that "Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat"?

Do you know how I voted in the last election? How about the election before that? Do you know how your next-door-neighbor voted? Your garbageman? Your mailman? Then, how do you know how one Jew voted, let alone the entire group of people?

If you are going to state that it is, "just a fact that Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat ", please show me how you found that out. Show me the voting records showing that of the 6,444,000 Jews in this country, at least 3,222,001 voted Democrat. And that would just be a simple majority, not "overwhelming".

[Alpo]

Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim

If you observe that blacks seem to do well in professional basketball while most physicists are white, you are making a racist, though true observation.

If you make the observation, "There are more black professional basketball players than white ones", that's a comment.

If you make the observation, "Blacks are better basketball players than whites are", that's a racist comment.

If you say, "Most physicists are white", you are making a statement.

If you say, "Whites are smarter than blacks", or "Blacks are unable to understand the science required to be a physicist", that's a racist statement.

[Suwannee Tim]

Originally Posted by Alpo

Just from curiosity, since voting is secret, how do you know that "Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat"?

Do you know how I voted in the last election? How about the election before that? Do you know how your next-door-neighbor voted? Your garbageman? Your mailman? Then, how do you know how one Jew voted, let alone the entire group of people?

If you are going to state that it is, "just a fact that Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat ", please show me how you found that out. Show me the voting records showing that of the 6,444,000 Jews in this country, at least 3,222,001 voted Democrat. And that would just be a simple majority, not "overwhelming".

Elections are reported by precinct. The demographics of precincts are available from the Census Bureau. That is one way they put this stuff together. Exit polling and telephone polling are other ways. From personal experience I know that Jews often live near their Synagogues as they do not drive on the Sabbath. I lived for a time in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, New York, 85% Jewish and you would look long and hard for a Republican yard sign in that neighborhood. I lived in New York City which I believe is the largest group of Jews in the world outside of Israel and I had many Jewish friends and associates. I'm not going to try to prove that blacks vote Democrat or Jews either because this information if available in seconds on the internet.

An even better place to get this information is the "Almanac of American Politics"
http://www.amazon.com/Almanac-Americ.../dp/0892341203
I used to buy one every year when I was a political junkie but I have been on the wagon for ten years and donated to the library about 25 consecutive years of Almanacs five years ago, so I have none left.

[dge479]

Why do so many Jews promote gun controll. Havent learned anything?
I am Jewish by birth and it never made sense to me.

[Bobitis]

"The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others".

If that's the case, why is it that 'white' is not considered a race?
People that are not 'white skinned' have carte blanche in dissing the whites. Yet that does not qualify as racism. Surely there's more to the definition than that.

Or is more like the definition of torture?
You know..... the 'because I say so' definition.

If you think about it, racism/torture, is 'all about me'.
There are uncountable people of color that are heros, wealthy, mentors, etc.
To invoke the race card is disingenuous and not appropriate. It's not about race, it's about me.

One day the wolf will enter the pasture and the towns people won't care.

Kinda like a car alarm. I don't have one. I'm so tired of hearing them, I don't care. Your car, your problem.

[45nut]

Originally Posted by Alpo

If you make the observation, "There are more black professional basketball players than white ones", that's a comment.

If you make the observation, "Blacks are better basketball players than whites are", that's a racist comment.

Can't we all get along? How is saying that black guys are better basketball players than whites, Latinos, Chinese, Lebanese or Asians is racist? It is a fact that the majority of Negros vote for Democraps and is that racist too?

Good grief man, the more we exacerbate the race issue, the less chance we have of overcoming it.

Why is that only the white man can be a racist?

[sabashimon]

Originally Posted by dge479

Why do so many Jews promote gun controll. Havent learned anything?

http://www.jpfo.org/

[carver]

Originally Posted by gaowlpoop

This is a serious post on my part. I am not being anti-Semitic or anti-anything, I just want to know.

It seems to me that Jews, in general, vote Democrat. My brain simply can not understand that considering the history of repression, subjugation, murder and attempted genocide on the Jewish people.

It would seem to me that if I had such a heritage that the Democrat Party would be the last people on Earth that I would want to support.

Can someone help me out here?

Go here, and ask that question: http://www.jpfo.org/

[Suwannee Tim]

Originally Posted by 45nut

............. Negros............

[Insulation Tim]

I believe that as a rule, they comprise a small voting block, but have a disproportionate amount of the wealth. They contribute vaste sums to the Democratic party. When the democrats are in power, witness the Clinton years and today's present mess.....the key appointments tend to lopsided to favor Jews (afterall, they are 2% of the population ).

Possibly they have a dislike for Republicans as historically, Republicans tended to be WASPish with their private clubs, etc. Jews were usually eJews in the Obama Administration

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[Alpo]

Originally Posted by 45nut

Can't we all get along? How is saying that black guys are better basketball players than whites, Latinos, Chinese, Lebanese or Asians is racist?

So, you're saying that Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Emmanuel Lewis and Gary Coleman are all better basketball players than Larry Bird, because they are black?

That's why it is racist. You are making a statement about an entire race of people. Blacks are _____. Whites are _____. Jews are _____. Mexicans are _____. Japanese are _____. Catholics are ______. Moslems are _____. It does not matter what you are saying about them, whether it is good or bad. Whether you are saying Japanese are smarter in math than any other people or whether you are saying Japanese have buck teeth and poor vision. If you are saying it about an entire race of people it is racist. "Black guys are better basketball players". Gary Coleman is better at basketball than I am, because he is black. If Michael Jordan was white, he would only be able to get a job as a giant in the circus, because his basketball ability would be gone.

Originally Posted by 45nut

It is a fact that the majority of Negros vote for Democraps and is that racist too?

Please show me that fact. Don't tell me about exit polls and telephone polls. If a pollster asked me who I voted for, I'd lie. Ain't nobody's business who I voted for. 2006 stats say there are 40.9 million blacks in this country. Show me the records that show that 20,450,001 voted democrat. There are no voting records. There are guesses by the talking heads on television.

So, if you can show me proof that more than 50% of the registered black voters in this country voted Democrat, then the statement will not be racist.

But, since you can't show proof, you are making an assumption. In that case, yes, it is racist.

[Suwannee Tim]

Originally Posted by Alpo

..........So, if you can show me proof that more than 50% of the registered black voters in this country voted Democrat, then the statement will not be racist.

But, since you can't show proof, you are making an assumption. In that case, yes, it is racist.

Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim

Elections are reported by precinct. The demographics of precincts are available from the Census Bureau. That is one way they put this stuff together. Exit polling and telephone polling are other ways................

To argue that blacks and Jews do not vote predominately Democrat is like arguing that I-10 does not run east and west. After all, you can't see the north or south pole from any point on I-10 so how do you prove that it runs east and west?

When I lived in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, New York and I saw all these people wearing hats and yarmulkes walking to Synagogue on Shabbat, do I really, really know they are Jews? I just put my wife on a plane to JFK, she is going to see Aretha Franklin at Radio City Music Hall tonight with one of her friends who is Jewish, I'll tell her to ask Laurie how Jews vote. I'll tell her to ask Aretha how she votes.

What do I know about Jews? I only lived and worked in NYC for more than a decade. What do I know about Blacks? I only lived and worked in the predominately black north west qaudrant of Duval County, Florida for more than three decades.

Originally Posted by Alpo

I also disagree with "Jews are Democrats" and "Jews are anti-gun". The Jews that seem to be making all the noise, and getting all the notice are from New York, San Francisco, Washington DC.

Orthodox Jews tend to be more conservative, socially and politically. Reform Jews are in general very liberal and Conservative Jews somewhere in the middle. Secular Jews are generally liberal. This is true whether they live in New York City, Jacksonville or Tel Aviv.

Originally Posted by Insulation Tim

I believe that as a rule, they comprise a small voting block, but have a disproportionate amount of the wealth. They contribute vaste sums to the Democratic party. When the democrats are in power, witness the Clinton years and today's present mess.....the key appointments tend to lopsided to favor Jews (afterall, they are 2% of the population ).................

Jews control a disproportionate amount of wealth and are over represented in the professions because they highly value education. This in my opinion stems from the insecurity that is a legacy of persecution, pogroms and the Holocaust. Remember that Passover is celebrated with unleavened bread because the Israelites had to leave Egypt on short notice. One valuable thing you can obtain that is easy to carry with you when it is time to bug out is an education. It is also due to the tradition of religious scholarship in Judaism which left Jews well-prepared for secular scholarship.

[navis128]

Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim

After all, you can't see the north or south pole from any point on I-10 so how do you prove that it runs east and west?

The sun?

Sorry that's my smartassism coming out.

I do not believe that anyone is trying to be racist. That's the problem with the whole PC thing. You can't genuinly ask a question that you're curious about, plus you don't know what's in or out.

Are we speculating here or is there actually a Jewish person that is a democrat that can answer the question, but first...is there really an answer?

[Suwannee Tim]

Sigh.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim

Sigh.

Sigh.