.45ACP taper crimp die question - The Firearms Forum

WildcatFan · 03-07-2010, 02:26 PM

Alrighty, well I've dropped my charge and am now ready to seat some LSWC. I'm using the RCBS 3-die set and their instructions don't jive with my RCBS video in how to set the seating die. Please run through your seating procedures for a taper-crimped .45ACP LSWC in depth. Also, the Speer manual states the COAL should be 1.190. I have mine at 1.20 and the bullet "base" of my LSWC are already below the mouth of the case. Please help this taking-it-slowly newbie out on this Sunday afternoon.

Thanks in advance.
Alex

JLA · 03-07-2010, 05:19 PM

your seating die applies the crimp with the die body and seats the bullet with the seating stem. Easy to set up.. step 1, run an empty case into your die and screw the die in until you feel it touch the case. then back it out about 1/8 of a turn. set the lock ring for now. Step 2, adjust the seating stem so that it will produce the desired Cartridge length. Step 3, back the seating stem off a few turns and screw the die body down 1/4 turn at a time until you get the desired crimp. On a .45acp set it so the case measures .470" at the mouth, then reset the lock ring. and the final step is to screw the seating stem down until it touches the dummy round. now every pull will seat the bullet and crimp it in place...

JLA · 03-07-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WildcatFan

Also, the Speer manual states the COAL should be 1.190. I have mine at 1.20 and the bullet "base" of my LSWC are already below the mouth of the case. Please help this taking-it-slowly newbie out on this Sunday afternoon.

Thanks in advance.
Alex

Post some pictures of your problem.. if i understand correctly you say the bullet is below the case mouth? I would need a visual aid to fully understand what you are having trouble with....

WildcatFan · 03-07-2010, 06:24 PM

Okay, I'll get a picture of it later tonight. I have a pot of country ham -n- beans, with cornbread comin' up. I appreciate your help.

WildcatFan · 03-07-2010, 06:47 PM

Won't let me upload my pics. Hmm, that sucks. JLA, I shot you a private message. Take a peek, please.

JLA · 03-07-2010, 08:59 PM

mmmm ham n beeeeens. answered your request, chek your notifications.

1911Man · 03-08-2010, 07:57 AM

Here's my pic. .45ACP, 200g LSWC. Again, my Speer loading manual stated a COAL of 1.190". This appears too deep, so I seated the rest to a depth of 1.250" with a case mouth of .470. Also, would you think this is safe to fire?

Thanks!

JLA · 03-08-2010, 07:44 PM

yes that one is a bit too deep. 1.250 should do nicely.

1911Man · 03-09-2010, 02:02 PM

Ok, thanks. That's what I thought. I have one of those bullet pulling hammers. Never done that. How do I?

Double D · 03-09-2010, 03:14 PM

Are you crimping the case at all? It looks like that swc could be pulled up by hand.

1911Man · 03-09-2010, 03:28 PM

Yes, taper crimping to a mouth of .470".

JLA · 03-09-2010, 08:26 PM

just chuck it in the kinetic hammer and give it one sharp whack on the floor. the bullet should move out beyond 1.275" if it doesnt come completely out altogether. But thats the beauty of doing it with a kinetic hammer, if it does come all the way out, just dump the charge back in and seat the bullet to the correct depth...

03-07-2010, 02:26 PM	#1
WildcatFan V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 68	.45ACP taper crimp die question Alrighty, well I've dropped my charge and am now ready to seat some LSWC. I'm using the RCBS 3-die set and their instructions don't jive with my RCBS video in how to set the seating die. Please run through your seating procedures for a taper-crimped .45ACP LSWC in depth. Also, the Speer manual states the COAL should be 1.190. I have mine at 1.20 and the bullet "base" of my LSWC are already below the mouth of the case. Please help this taking-it-slowly newbie out on this Sunday afternoon. Thanks in advance. Alex __________________ These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. -Thomas Payne- --> Last edited by WildcatFan; 03-07-2010 at 03:14 PM..

03-07-2010, 05:19 PM	#2
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question your seating die applies the crimp with the die body and seats the bullet with the seating stem. Easy to set up.. step 1, run an empty case into your die and screw the die in until you feel it touch the case. then back it out about 1/8 of a turn. set the lock ring for now. Step 2, adjust the seating stem so that it will produce the desired Cartridge length. Step 3, back the seating stem off a few turns and screw the die body down 1/4 turn at a time until you get the desired crimp. On a .45acp set it so the case measures .470" at the mouth, then reset the lock ring. and the final step is to screw the seating stem down until it touches the dummy round. now every pull will seat the bullet and crimp it in place... __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Last edited by JLA; 03-07-2010 at 05:20 PM..

03-07-2010, 06:24 PM	#4
WildcatFan V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 68	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question Okay, I'll get a picture of it later tonight. I have a pot of country ham -n- beans, with cornbread comin' up. I appreciate your help. __________________ These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. -Thomas Payne-

03-07-2010, 06:47 PM	#5
WildcatFan V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 68	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question Won't let me upload my pics. Hmm, that sucks. JLA, I shot you a private message. Take a peek, please. __________________ These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. -Thomas Payne-

03-07-2010, 08:59 PM	#6
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question mmmm ham n beeeeens. answered your request, chek your notifications. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

03-08-2010, 07:57 AM	#7
1911Man Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 39	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question Here's my pic. .45ACP, 200g LSWC. Again, my Speer loading manual stated a COAL of 1.190". This appears too deep, so I seated the rest to a depth of 1.250" with a case mouth of .470. Also, would you think this is safe to fire? Thanks! Attached Images __________________ Liberals suck.

03-08-2010, 07:44 PM	#8
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question yes that one is a bit too deep. 1.250 should do nicely. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

03-09-2010, 02:02 PM	#9
1911Man Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 39	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question Ok, thanks. That's what I thought. I have one of those bullet pulling hammers. Never done that. How do I? __________________ Liberals suck.

03-09-2010, 03:14 PM	#10
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,085	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question Are you crimping the case at all? It looks like that swc could be pulled up by hand. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

03-09-2010, 03:28 PM	#11
1911Man Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 39	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question Yes, taper crimping to a mouth of .470". __________________ Liberals suck.

03-09-2010, 08:26 PM	#12
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: .45ACP taper crimp die question just chuck it in the kinetic hammer and give it one sharp whack on the floor. the bullet should move out beyond 1.275" if it doesnt come completely out altogether. But thats the beauty of doing it with a kinetic hammer, if it does come all the way out, just dump the charge back in and seat the bullet to the correct depth... __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Last edited by JLA; 03-09-2010 at 08:27 PM..