Obama to Announce High-Speed Rail Plan

[22WRF]

WASHINGTON -- A day after delivering a State of the Union address aimed at showing recession-weary Americans he understands their struggles, President Barack Obama intends to award $8 billion in stimulus funds to develop high-speed rail corridors and sell the program as a jobs creator.

No US Company builds Hi Speed Rail ( Bombardier) in Canada does

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...+Politics%2529

We won't get any of this the boondoggle here in AL but he does have plans for us.

This will create a lot of jobs here

NASA's plans to return astronauts to the moon are dead. So are the rockets being designed to take them there — that is, if President Barack Obama gets his way.

Lets see we shut down the Cape and lay railroad track. Lot of AeroSpace Engineers are into laying track

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2770904.story

[ponycar17]

On the high speed rail front, he's trying to emulate infrastructure spending of 1990s Japan. It didn't work for them. It won't work for us.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120902785.html

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by ponycar17

On the high speed rail front, he's trying to emulate infrastructure spending of 1990s Japan. It didn't work for them. It won't work for us.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120902785.html

Seattle spent 10 years and 4.2 Billion dollars on 14 miles of light rail.

The man is certifiable.

[obxned]

Borrow more money from China for another worthless project. Yup, this has never worked, so let's do it again.

[trapperdick]

He needs to be run out of town on a rail.............

[millwright]

"Light Rail" is predicated on the concept that inconveniencing a train load of people to "serve" the needs of a few individuals is an acceptable trade.......Ideally, a "mass transit system would consist of millions of "people pods" whisking individuals to their destinations. But that's futuristic ! BUT we do have the technology to tote commuters in smaller "packets" of a dozen or so at a better, "rate of advance", than either light rail or private cars. These systems could share space with current urban highways and arterial routes. (Every major highway could support at least four such "routes/lines" !! )

IOW, my "Beads on a String" concept isn't all that "different" from today's commuter log jam - sans the stress !! >MW

[Terry_P]

Great idea run Canadian trains on Chinese steel tracks with the whole thing built by illegal Mexican labor. American stimulus.

[22WRF]

Great idea run Canadian trains on Chinese steel tracks with the whole thing built by illegal Mexican labor.

Perfect

[topper]

Another governemt boondoggle. It will be rife with corruption and greed and it will never work like intended and it's another tax we will have to pay. NO, NO THANKS, Mr. President. I can't afford any more.

[Marlin T]

I wonder if it will make as much money as AMTRACK is making?

[graehaven]

Yet another step to doing exactly what they intended all along - spend us into insolvency - so they can then seize everything under a created emergency.

And most of congress cheered for him.

ANYone of them who applauded for him for ANYTHING he said last night, should be thrown out of office - and I hope they are.

[REISINGMOD50]

Another gift to the unions. Light rail lines and intra city rail lines never support themselves. Once built, they have to be subsidized for eternity as the usage and artificially low fares (so the "less fortunate" can have access) means the tax payers will have to foot the true cost of the project. Another waste of money, but from this president, wasting money the signature of his administration.

[red14]

Well, Mussolini did make the rail system run on time in Italy. At least he is following in one of his hero's footsteps.

[Terry_P]

The "big dig" in Boston a $2.8 billion project the cost $14.6 billion by the time it was finished and the harbor tunnel has so many leaks they had to shut it down and try to patch it up after a ceiling collapse killed a woman. As Yogi said: Deja Vu all over again.

[bcj1755]

Originally Posted by Terry_P

Great idea run Canadian trains on Chinese steel tracks with the whole thing built by illegal Mexican labor. American stimulus.

That's probably the plan they have for this "project."

[lockednloaded45]

Originally Posted by Terry_P

Great idea run Canadian trains on Chinese steel tracks with the whole thing built by illegal Mexican labor. American stimulus.

My prediction too! All I can think is what a crock and bull!!

[22WRF]

How many tickets at what price to pay for the 8 billion, well maybe 20-25 billion with cost overruns.

[ARB]

The only problem I see with this idea, is the timing. Rail systems can work.

[graehaven]

The main trouble is that the American consumer (the typical American that is) likes the individuality and comfort and freedom of being in their own car. Rail doesn't offer this. It's part of our cultural identity. Americans are NOT going to switch to high speed rail as a mode of transportation, unless............




....for some "reason," gas becomes simply too expensive.


Still though, this is still a big power/money grab by government. Totally a socialist / marxist move.

[ARB]

Originally Posted by graehaven

The main trouble is that the American consumer (the typical American that is) likes the individuality and comfort and freedom of being in their own car. Rail doesn't offer this. It's part of our cultural identity. Americans are NOT going to switch to high speed rail as a mode of transportation, unless............




....for some "reason," gas becomes simply too expensive.


Still though, this is still a big power/money grab by government. Totally a socialist / marxist move.

While not completely disagreeing with you, I know that they do appeal to a lot of people as I rode one to work everyday in Denver. They were constantly expanding it because it was very popular for all walks of life. Not only did I not have to pay exhuberant parking fees, I didn't have to spend my mornings in gridlock. And, I had a tank full of gas on the weekends.

[22WRF]

While not completely disagreeing with you, I know that they do appeal to a lot of people as I rode one to work everyday in Denver

Don't confuse high-speed rail corridors with light rail. Oooooobaaahhhma is talking Bullet Trains emulating TGV in France, and the The Shinkansen in Japan

[ARB]

Originally Posted by 22WRF

Don't confuse high-speed rail corridors with light rail. Oooooobaaahhhma is talking Bullet Trains emulating TGV in France, and the The Shinkansen in Japan

Whoops!

[ponycar17]

Originally Posted by 22WRF

....The Shinkansen in Japan

While the Shinkansen is an awesome thing it's not something that America can afford now and certainly not something that would support the way most of us live.

You've got me reminiscing about those long 3 hour Shinkansen rides I took a few years back while working for a Japanese company. I actually miss it, strangely enough...

[22WRF]

Jobs for Americans

JR Tokai targets Florida bullet train deal

Full story: Free Republic
Central Japan Railway Co will join rivals in competing to develop a high-speed railway line in the U.S. state of Florida, as the former state-owned firm looks to sell its super-fast train systems overseas.

http://www.topix.com/business/railro...let-train-deal

[killbuck]

Originally Posted by lockednloaded45

My prediction too! All I can think is what a crock and bull!!

No...that's suppose to say "what a crock of pelosi".