Vetting... - The Firearms Forum

nmckenzie · 10-01-2012, 10:27 PM

I should probably know this from high school civics class, but that was fifty some odd years ago, so I'll ask the question. Who, exactly, vets a candidate for the Presidency of the United States? This question came up early in Obbie's tenure in the White House, and if memory serves me some news person actually asked the FBI. Their response was, in essence, that since O'b had already been elected to the Senate, and was already serving, essentially no one vetted him for his presidential bid. I found that a bit ridiculous, but then I'm just a retired country gunsmith, what do I know? Well, to be honest, I want to know. Let's suppose Mr. Whomever is a currently serving Senator or Congressman; does that mean he's got a free pass for a run at the highest office in the land without a formal vetting procedure by law enforcement, intel, credit rating agencies and the like? On the other hand, if Mr. Whomever is simply a successful businessman with enough intelligence and common sense to run the country, who then vets him for his run? Just wondering.

CampingJosh · 10-01-2012, 10:34 PM

No formal vetting required. It's traditionally been the role of commercial media to vet candidates for all political positions, but in recent years the commercial media has started to become more "commentary" and less reporting. And as much as Rush, Hannity, etc. complain about that, their success was the catalyst for the rest of the industry to follow suit.

45Auto · 10-01-2012, 10:45 PM

There are two political parties. They don't like each other. The vetting process has become extremely harsh in recent years with stories being invented at times.

nmckenzie · 10-01-2012, 10:55 PM

No formal vetting required. Well, I reckon that explains some of the turkeys we've ended up with on both the local and national levels. As to harsh stories (lies to us little people) being invented by rival political parties; to paraphrase Claude Rains in Casablanca, I'm shocked, SHOCKED! And if you believe that, I've got this bridge for sale, complete with toll rights...it's in Brooklyn.

carver · 10-02-2012, 08:03 AM

If you are eligible, running for president of the United States is different from actually winning the presidency. Every four years, scores of candidates file papers with the Federal Elections Commission, raise money and campaign during presidential primary campaigns. However, those candidates who build a national following have the chance to win the primary and general election campaigns. A real slim chance if you didn't raise enough money to satisfy your party constituents, or be in with them.

45Auto · 10-02-2012, 08:08 AM

Speaking of stories, why have those lazy Democrats not asked to see Mitt's birth records? How do we KNOW if Romney was born in the USA? He might have been born in Canada. After all, his parents were not born in the USA and his birth city (Detroit) is on the Canadian border!

carver · 10-02-2012, 08:17 AM

Precedence has now been set by the Demoncats! You no longer have to be a "Natural Born" citizen of the U.S. to be it's leader!

10-01-2012, 10:27 PM	#1
nmckenzie Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sitka, Alaska Posts: 1,921	Vetting... I should probably know this from high school civics class, but that was fifty some odd years ago, so I'll ask the question. Who, exactly, vets a candidate for the Presidency of the United States? This question came up early in Obbie's tenure in the White House, and if memory serves me some news person actually asked the FBI. Their response was, in essence, that since O'b had already been elected to the Senate, and was already serving, essentially no one vetted him for his presidential bid. I found that a bit ridiculous, but then I'm just a retired country gunsmith, what do I know? Well, to be honest, I want to know. Let's suppose Mr. Whomever is a currently serving Senator or Congressman; does that mean he's got a free pass for a run at the highest office in the land without a formal vetting procedure by law enforcement, intel, credit rating agencies and the like? On the other hand, if Mr. Whomever is simply a successful businessman with enough intelligence and common sense to run the country, who then vets him for his run? Just wondering. -->

10-01-2012, 10:34 PM	#2
CampingJosh TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 4,787	Re: Vetting... No formal vetting required. It's traditionally been the role of commercial media to vet candidates for all political positions, but in recent years the commercial media has started to become more "commentary" and less reporting. And as much as Rush, Hannity, etc. complain about that, their success was the catalyst for the rest of the industry to follow suit. __________________ Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice. Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.

10-01-2012, 10:45 PM	#3
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,116	Re: Vetting... There are two political parties. They don't like each other. The vetting process has become extremely harsh in recent years with stories being invented at times.

10-01-2012, 10:55 PM	#4
nmckenzie Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sitka, Alaska Posts: 1,921	Re: Vetting... No formal vetting required. Well, I reckon that explains some of the turkeys we've ended up with on both the local and national levels. As to harsh stories (lies to us little people) being invented by rival political parties; to paraphrase Claude Rains in Casablanca, I'm shocked, SHOCKED! And if you believe that, I've got this bridge for sale, complete with toll rights...it's in Brooklyn.

10-02-2012, 08:03 AM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,221	Re: Vetting... If you are eligible, running for president of the United States is different from actually winning the presidency. Every four years, scores of candidates file papers with the Federal Elections Commission, raise money and campaign during presidential primary campaigns. However, those candidates who build a national following have the chance to win the primary and general election campaigns. A real slim chance if you didn't raise enough money to satisfy your party constituents, or be in with them. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-02-2012, 08:08 AM	#6
45Auto Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,116	Re: Vetting... Speaking of stories, why have those lazy Democrats not asked to see Mitt's birth records? How do we KNOW if Romney was born in the USA? He might have been born in Canada. After all, his parents were not born in the USA and his birth city (Detroit) is on the Canadian border!

10-02-2012, 08:17 AM	#7
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,221	Re: Vetting... Precedence has now been set by the Demoncats! You no longer have to be a "Natural Born" citizen of the U.S. to be it's leader! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.