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bugman · 11-16-2003, 08:51 AM

I have a pistol marked on the left side: Pistole M. 37, Cal. 7,65 mm with a small bird shape and jhv over 41 with a serial # 3628
what is this?

Smokin Guns · 11-16-2003, 09:16 AM

Welcome to TFF bugman! I would need a lot more description. Can you post a picture of it?...

CountryGunsmith · 11-16-2003, 09:16 AM

It is a Frommer Model 1937, produced by the Frommer factory in Hungary in 1941 for Germany. A 50,000 piece contract was issued in 1941 for a 7.65mm (.32 ACP) version of the Frommer Model 1937 9mm Short (.380). Most of these contract guns were sent to the Luftwaffe, and the contract was eventually extended through 1944 with some 85.000 produced.

Looks like this, maybe?

bugman · 11-16-2003, 09:31 AM

it does look like that but cal. is spelled cal. on mine but kal. on everything I've looked at(like your picture) and mine is a .32

CountryGunsmith · 11-16-2003, 11:04 AM

There were several variations on the slide markings through the 4 years of manufacture of this contract. The guns manufactured for Germany were in .32 ACP (7.65mm).

gpostal · 11-16-2003, 05:00 PM

the man never ceases to amaze me

Smokin Guns · 11-16-2003, 05:45 PM

Yup! I'm with ya gpostal...he's good!!!...

11-16-2003, 08:51 AM	#1
bugman Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	Help what is it? I have a pistol marked on the left side: Pistole M. 37, Cal. 7,65 mm with a small bird shape and jhv over 41 with a serial # 3628 what is this? -->

11-16-2003, 09:16 AM	#2
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Welcome to TFF bugman! I would need a lot more description. Can you post a picture of it?... __________________

11-16-2003, 09:16 AM	#3
CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	It is a Frommer Model 1937, produced by the Frommer factory in Hungary in 1941 for Germany. A 50,000 piece contract was issued in 1941 for a 7.65mm (.32 ACP) version of the Frommer Model 1937 9mm Short (.380). Most of these contract guns were sent to the Luftwaffe, and the contract was eventually extended through 1944 with some 85.000 produced. Looks like this, maybe? Attached Images __________________ The autonomic nervous system provides for involuntary muscle function - the work of breathing, digestion, and so forth. On some folks, that's a pure waste of ingenuity.

11-16-2003, 09:31 AM	#4
bugman Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5	what is it? it does look like that but cal. is spelled cal. on mine but kal. on everything I've looked at(like your picture) and mine is a .32

11-16-2003, 11:04 AM	#5
CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	There were several variations on the slide markings through the 4 years of manufacture of this contract. The guns manufactured for Germany were in .32 ACP (7.65mm). __________________ The autonomic nervous system provides for involuntary muscle function - the work of breathing, digestion, and so forth. On some folks, that's a pure waste of ingenuity.

11-16-2003, 05:00 PM	#6
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	the man never ceases to amaze me

11-16-2003, 05:45 PM	#7
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Yup! I'm with ya gpostal...he's good!!!... __________________