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I take issue with the idea that records in gun stores are not yet readily available to ATF on a daily basis. The local ATF rep can and does call any dealer at any time and come by to browse through his 4473s in connection with any investigation they wish. Therefore, those who think their privacy is safe except for full audits or some faraway time when the business closes are overestimating the level of privacy regarding their gun store purchases (in my opinion). ATF agents can and do go to the local gun stores to look for an individual name and identify any and all of his gun purchases via the 4473s on file -- as I understand current practices.
We'd like to think that any self-respecting gun store owner would rather burn his files than have them used to intimidate gun owners, but my experience is that as long as there is no "Red Dawn scenario," gun store owners are going to be more concerned with keeping their FFL than in assuring your privacy or mine is guaranteed against ATF abuses. The rationalization is, I suppose, that "hey, if they're interested in you I figured you might be a crook..."
More and more I rely on private paperless transactions to assure real privacy regarding my "core" personal defense guns. Indiana still has some of the saner gun rights laws in the country... so far.
But the antis are howling at the gates and running traveling "gun safety" roadshows through our state, taking anti-gun polls and claiming the results "prove Indiana is not a pro gun state," in order to try to a) scare the ignorant, and b) ram additional gun laws into the legislative process in Indiana. Most folks don't take these liberal activists seriously here yet, but will of course vote down, with extreme prejudice, any foolishness that should get a foothold in the legislature, when the time comes.
But even here in the conservative heartland, the dealers of my acquaintance are very cooperative with the local ATF's requests to view records whenever they are "asked" to do so. One wonders what the penalties might be for non-cooperation.
The Second Amendment does not exist
to protect the gun rights you like.
It exists to protect the gun rights you hate.
Last edited by offeror; 01-11-2005 at 12:33 AM..