Are they the same - The Firearms Forum

jim summers · 11-10-2011, 03:02 PM

I will be the first to say i don't know a lot about handgun ammo and rifle ammo, so here is my question.

Can you take a 44 magnum handgun round and use that same round in a 44magnum rifle, or say a 357 handgun round and use it in a 357 rifle. I haven't tried any of this i am just asking.

Old Grump · 11-10-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jim summers

I will be the first to say i don't know a lot about handgun ammo and rifle ammo, so here is my question.

Can you take a 44 magnum handgun round and use that same round in a 44magnum rifle, or say a 357 handgun round and use it in a 357 rifle. I haven't tried any of this i am just asking.

Short answer is yes. Others will soon be along to add all sorts of exceptions and caveats but yes anything you can load in your revolver will work in the carbine and rifles chambered for the same caliber.

RandyP · 11-10-2011, 03:13 PM

I use the same ammo/reloads in my 9mm pistol and carbine. Those with a chronograph will be able to verify a highers FPS out of the longer barrels but other than that I've not found any negatives.

I reload and 'could' try to custom tailor ammo for each, but it doesn't interest me. One less thing to have to special inventory - lol

Caneman · 11-10-2011, 03:21 PM

i think this is pretty interesting...

like someone said the short answer is yes, but from what i know you need a slower powder for the rifle, like H110, and a faster powder for the revolver, like Blue Dot... i have proven this with my .44 mag revolver, have yet to try it with a rifle... my dad has the rifle and someday i will test this out

gcalloway · 11-10-2011, 03:29 PM

The pistol ammo will work fine in the rifle. In the old west it was common to have a pistol and rifle of the same caliber so you only had to carry one ammo. Here is the only caveat I have is if you reload your own do not use max rifle loads in your pistol. Some of the older manuels actually stated "not for use in handguns other than Ruger"

jim summers · 11-10-2011, 03:58 PM

Thanks fellas
The reason i asked is that Indiana now allows deer hunters to use certain rifles to hunt deer along with the shotgun, handgun and muzzle loader and the two i mentioned here are a couple actually it has been in effect since 07

Alpo · 11-10-2011, 05:46 PM

Couple of things.

One is different bullet shapes may not feed in YOUR rifle. Some guns do not like SWC bullets. Some only have problems with SWCs with extremely long noses. Your revolver does not care about the bullet shape.

With tubular magazines, you should stay away from round-nosed bullets. It is a BAD idea. Sure, you'll have the folks saying "I've used RN bullets in my gun for years and ain't never had a problem". That's like the girl that says, "I ain't never used no birth control and I ain't pregnant". All that means is SHE ain't got caught. HIS gun hasn't blown up. Again, your revolver does not care if the bullet is round nosed.

If your gun is an autoloader, you should stick to jacketed bullets. Stay away from cast. Bits of lead and bullet lube can jam your gun. Your revolver does not care whether you shoot cast or jacketed.

So, yes, your 44 or 357 rifle can fire the same ammo as your 44 or 357 revolver, but feeding it through the magazine can be problematical.

For lever guns, I try SWCs. If there is any type of hiccup, I switch to RNF. For my Ruger 44 carbine, I stay with JSP.

vytoland · 11-10-2011, 06:02 PM

it wont make much difference

11-10-2011, 03:02 PM	#1
jim summers Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I reside in southern Indiana, you can almost step out of my back door and be setting on Patoka Lake Posts: 1,056	Are they the same I will be the first to say i don't know a lot about handgun ammo and rifle ammo, so here is my question. Can you take a 44 magnum handgun round and use that same round in a 44magnum rifle, or say a 357 handgun round and use it in a 357 rifle. I haven't tried any of this i am just asking. __________________ To Whom Much Is Given, Much Is Required. -->

11-10-2011, 03:13 PM	#3
RandyP V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 430	Re: Are they the same I use the same ammo/reloads in my 9mm pistol and carbine. Those with a chronograph will be able to verify a highers FPS out of the longer barrels but other than that I've not found any negatives. I reload and 'could' try to custom tailor ammo for each, but it doesn't interest me. One less thing to have to special inventory - lol __________________ Lee Anniversary and Lee Classic 4-Hole Turret, presently reloading .380, 7.62 Nagant (32-20), 9mm and 45ACP Last edited by RandyP; 11-10-2011 at 03:15 PM..

11-10-2011, 03:21 PM	#4
Caneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,271	Re: Are they the same i think this is pretty interesting... like someone said the short answer is yes, but from what i know you need a slower powder for the rifle, like H110, and a faster powder for the revolver, like Blue Dot... i have proven this with my .44 mag revolver, have yet to try it with a rifle... my dad has the rifle and someday i will test this out

11-10-2011, 03:29 PM	#5
gcalloway V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Atlanta Posts: 88	Re: Are they the same The pistol ammo will work fine in the rifle. In the old west it was common to have a pistol and rifle of the same caliber so you only had to carry one ammo. Here is the only caveat I have is if you reload your own do not use max rifle loads in your pistol. Some of the older manuels actually stated "not for use in handguns other than Ruger" __________________ Success: Before everything else, getting ready is the secret of success. - Henry Ford

11-10-2011, 03:58 PM	#6
jim summers Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I reside in southern Indiana, you can almost step out of my back door and be setting on Patoka Lake Posts: 1,056	Re: Are they the same Thanks fellas The reason i asked is that Indiana now allows deer hunters to use certain rifles to hunt deer along with the shotgun, handgun and muzzle loader and the two i mentioned here are a couple actually it has been in effect since 07 __________________ To Whom Much Is Given, Much Is Required.

11-10-2011, 05:46 PM	#7
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,662	Re: Are they the same Couple of things. One is different bullet shapes may not feed in YOUR rifle. Some guns do not like SWC bullets. Some only have problems with SWCs with extremely long noses. Your revolver does not care about the bullet shape. With tubular magazines, you should stay away from round-nosed bullets. It is a BAD idea. Sure, you'll have the folks saying "I've used RN bullets in my gun for years and ain't never had a problem". That's like the girl that says, "I ain't never used no birth control and I ain't pregnant". All that means is SHE ain't got caught. HIS gun hasn't blown up. Again, your revolver does not care if the bullet is round nosed. If your gun is an autoloader, you should stick to jacketed bullets. Stay away from cast. Bits of lead and bullet lube can jam your gun. Your revolver does not care whether you shoot cast or jacketed. So, yes, your 44 or 357 rifle can fire the same ammo as your 44 or 357 revolver, but feeding it through the magazine can be problematical. For lever guns, I try SWCs. If there is any type of hiccup, I switch to RNF. For my Ruger 44 carbine, I stay with JSP. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.