Anybody but ............ - The Firearms Forum

Haligan · 12-13-2011, 10:40 AM

Ok, I have to throw this out their, because I'm hearing this over and over and over. I've heard it on TV, I've heard from all my friends, and I've heard it over and over on TFF.

"Anybody but Dabamma."

"I don't care, who the Republicans nominate, he'll be better then Dabamma, anybody but dabamma."

Like I said over and over.

Here's your hypothetical situation. Ready
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Your President is Adolf Hitler.

The campaign battle cry is "Anybody but Hitler !"

You walk into the voting booth and your ballet reads.

J. Stalin

Or

B. Mussolini

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Ya, see my point, now granted you have the advantage of knowing history.
I contend that we must be carefull in not jumping from the devil we know to the devil we don't know. It's just food for thought. My contention is we CAN NOT let the media SELECT our next president.

By the way, RON PAUL for President 2012

Juker · 12-13-2011, 11:14 AM

I hear ya, my brother, I really do - but there can't possibly be anyone worse than what we're currently stuck with.

ofitg · 12-13-2011, 11:15 AM

Getting rid of Obama is only half of the equation. Electing somebody who is actually better is the other half of the equation - and I don't go along with the notion that Obama is some kind of unique demon - there's plenty more where he came from. The others may look different, they may talk different, they might have different kinds of tricks, but they would still take us to the same destination.

Still several months to go before the election. Time to get serious and try to select a candidate who will turn this bus around..... changing the music on the bus's stereo system is not enough.

Double Deuce · 12-13-2011, 11:23 AM

Actually it wouldnt matter who we elected if the system was set up like it should be with checks an balances, but unfortunatly those have been erroded so far that some branches of the government are to powerful and other branches let them get away with it.

Bobitis · 12-13-2011, 11:31 AM

Anybody but Obie in 2012.

Allen West in 2016.

carver · 12-13-2011, 11:35 AM

If we can keep the house, get rid of the present imposter in the White House, and get control of the Senate, we might be able to make some changes that will keep our heads above water for a while. Time is what we need!

DixieLandMan · 12-13-2011, 11:36 AM

ABO...Anybody But Obama (read: my vote is for whoever is on Republ-I-CAN ticket).

Double D · 12-13-2011, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Anybody but Obie in 2012.

Allen West in 2016.

+1

armoredman · 12-13-2011, 12:13 PM

I will make my voice heard in the primary for who I wish to oppose Dear Leader, then I will make the best choice from the actual opposing choices in November, but I will not vote for Newt or Mitt.

jedwil · 12-13-2011, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Anybody but Obie in 2012.

Allen West in 2016.

Allen West Now, it may be too late in 2016.

ofitg · 12-13-2011, 12:48 PM

I could see a write-in vote for Allen West, he's one of the best guys out there.

I agree, 2016 might be too late.... and it would be an extra four years for the snakes in DC to try and destroy West (morally, politically) while he's still a Congressman.

Popgunner · 12-13-2011, 12:51 PM

We conservatives have perfected the art of splitting our vote & wasting our voice by stamping our feet & voting for "write-in" candidates. I'll give props to the libs/Dems on that front. They're smart enough to consolidate their votes to make a real difference.

My favorite "conservative" is Mitt because I had experience with him when we had a horrible mess going on with the IOC here in Salt Lake for the 2002 winter olympics. We had the IOC members rent a big building and a fleet of new mercedes cars. The one official got drunk, raced his loaner mercedes into the building's parking garage & slid into several of the other parked Mercedes totaling them all. My buddy was managing the parking garage & called the police who were told to leave because all the IOC officials had diplomatic immunity. Similar situations were rampant during that time & Mitt was called in & used strong conservative management to change everything & save us from that horrible mess. I believe Mitt is totaly POTUS material. If Mitt doesn't get the Repub nomination I will not write his name in or vote for anyone as a statement. Maybe we need to start a third party with a real chance for their candidate to win but it's obvious to me that we're not anywhere close to that.

I will vote for the Republican candidate.

jacksonco · 12-13-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ofitg

I could see a write-in vote for Allen West, he's one of the best guys out there.

I agree, 2016 might be too late.... and it would be an extra four years for the snakes in DC to try and destroy West (morally, politically) while he's still a Congressman.

4 more years of Obama in the WH and we lose the Supreme Court to the Liberals.

bamajoey · 12-13-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonco

4 more years of Obama in the WH and we lose the Supreme Court to the Liberals.

If something was to happen to one of the current conservative judges, (heaven forbid) before the coming election, we are doomed.

Juker · 12-13-2011, 01:03 PM

Half the people in this country still support Obozo, which is proof positive that there's no reaching them. They are unreachable. They can't be reached. Cranial rectumitis will do that - it's dark in there. And those people won't be shopping at Lowe's, either, which suits me right down to the ground.

Obozo is losing support and hopefully that will continue. We know he's trying to import illegals and non-breeders to rock his vote, and there's a contingent of young Obots who've been bred to voting age since 2008. But the good news is, he's not GAINING support.

ofitg · 12-13-2011, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacksonco

4 more years of Obama in the WH and we lose the Supreme Court to the Liberals.

Put the wrong Republican into office, and the same thing will happen.

Right now we've got a couple of GOP hopefuls that I could hold my nose and vote for, and a couple others who are just "different-flavored Obamas".

Everybody has to search his own conscience and use his vote the best way he can. My conscience tells me not to vote for any candidate who has a history of undermining the Constitution and selling out our country's sovereignty.

Notice I did not refer to the promises they make? By their deeds ye shall know them.

hunterfisher · 12-13-2011, 06:41 PM

Whats the deadline for someone to join the presidential run? Right now, theres no one I would vote for. And I'm an, INDEPENDENT.

armedandsafe · 12-13-2011, 09:34 PM

We need to increase our strength in the House and take over the Senate. That is the BIG job. Getting Obama out will not mean much if we keep the same crooks in the lawmaking facilities.

If we put a Republican in for his first term, he will be looking to get re-elected for his second term, so will tread a little lightly at first. If we have control of Congress, we can control him, to a certain extent. Voting third party or staying home is a vote for what we have right now. If you wish to vote against what this country needs, that is your right in this country. It being a right does not make it the correct course of action. It is difficult for me to see that helping the socialists keep control of the country is the right thing to do.

Pops

H0tr0dder · 12-13-2011, 09:44 PM

Honestly, I want a republican president. WHY? Not because I'm a republican, but because then maybe these nut cases saying that's what we need will see, it doesn't matter. It's all the other yahoos both dem and repub in congress that need to go. Dem or repub president...makes no difference because congress I full of a$$hole crooks.

So saying "a republican will fix it" or " a democrat is the answer" is the dumbest thing you could hear during election time.

Songman · 12-13-2011, 11:02 PM

The point is - Obama is not the answer. He never was. Not one thing he has done has given any benefit to this country. Of course, I think that was his plan. I think he has been 100% successful at what he set out to do.

Also, the point is that it does matter. Because the parties have drawn lines. And I fall more into the lines drawn by the Republicans than by the Democrats. No, neither side is perfect, and no one man can do it all by himself. But putting a Conservative Republican in the White House is a step in the right direction. And we gotta start somewhere.

ofitg · 12-13-2011, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armedandsafe

We need to increase our strength in the House and take over the Senate. That is the BIG job. Getting Obama out will not mean much if we keep the same crooks in the lawmaking facilities.

If we put a Republican in for his first term, he will be looking to get re-elected for his second term, so will tread a little lightly at first. If we have control of Congress, we can control him, to a certain extent. Voting third party or staying home is a vote for what we have right now. If you wish to vote against what this country needs, that is your right in this country. It being a right does not make it the correct course of action. It is difficult for me to see that helping the socialists keep control of the country is the right thing to do.

Pops

Pops, I'm glad that you keep reminding everybody about the importance of focusing on Congress. Remember where SCOTUS Justice Souter came from? Put the wrong Republican into the White House, and it will happen again..... but if we had a solid majority of patriots in the Senate, they would kill the nomination.

Haligan · 12-14-2011, 08:27 PM

This is the sentiment I was trying to convey. I'm afraid Newt, Mitt, and Rick are pouring honey in our ears to try and decieve us. Once they get in, I'm afraid they'll follow the same agenda, only with "right-wing cover".

Brisk44 · 12-14-2011, 08:49 PM

As to the original three choices, At least mussolini got the trains to running on time.

And then had the good sense to die when the jig was up.

jedwil · 12-14-2011, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brisk44

As to the original three choices, At least mussolini got the trains to running on time.

And then had the good sense to die when the jig was up.

Don't think the guy had a choice about dieing when the jig was up.

Python · 12-15-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armedandsafe

We need to increase our strength in the House and take over the Senate. That is the BIG job. Getting Obama out will not mean much if we keep the same crooks in the lawmaking facilities.
Pops

That is an absolute.

12-13-2011, 10:40 AM	#1
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Anybody but ............ Ok, I have to throw this out their, because I'm hearing this over and over and over. I've heard it on TV, I've heard from all my friends, and I've heard it over and over on TFF. "Anybody but Dabamma." "I don't care, who the Republicans nominate, he'll be better then Dabamma, anybody but dabamma." Like I said over and over. Here's your hypothetical situation. Ready --------------------------------------------------- Your President is Adolf Hitler. The campaign battle cry is "Anybody but Hitler !" You walk into the voting booth and your ballet reads. J. Stalin Or B. Mussolini -------------------------------------------- Ya, see my point, now granted you have the advantage of knowing history. I contend that we must be carefull in not jumping from the devil we know to the devil we don't know. It's just food for thought. My contention is we CAN NOT let the media SELECT our next president. By the way, RON PAUL for President 2012 __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson -->

12-13-2011, 11:14 AM	#2
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Anybody but ............ I hear ya, my brother, I really do - but there can't possibly be anyone worse than what we're currently stuck with. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

12-13-2011, 11:15 AM	#3
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: Anybody but ............ Getting rid of Obama is only half of the equation. Electing somebody who is actually better is the other half of the equation - and I don't go along with the notion that Obama is some kind of unique demon - there's plenty more where he came from. The others may look different, they may talk different, they might have different kinds of tricks, but they would still take us to the same destination. Still several months to go before the election. Time to get serious and try to select a candidate who will turn this bus around..... changing the music on the bus's stereo system is not enough.

12-13-2011, 11:23 AM	#4
Double Deuce V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 313	Re: Anybody but ............ Actually it wouldnt matter who we elected if the system was set up like it should be with checks an balances, but unfortunatly those have been erroded so far that some branches of the government are to powerful and other branches let them get away with it.

12-13-2011, 11:31 AM	#5
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Anybody but ............ Anybody but Obie in 2012. Allen West in 2016. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

12-13-2011, 11:35 AM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,280	Re: Anybody but ............ If we can keep the house, get rid of the present imposter in the White House, and get control of the Senate, we might be able to make some changes that will keep our heads above water for a while. Time is what we need! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

12-13-2011, 11:36 AM	#7
DixieLandMan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 607	Re: Anybody but ............ ABO...Anybody But Obama (read: my vote is for whoever is on Republ-I-CAN ticket).

12-13-2011, 12:13 PM	#9
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,367	Re: Anybody but ............ I will make my voice heard in the primary for who I wish to oppose Dear Leader, then I will make the best choice from the actual opposing choices in November, but I will not vote for Newt or Mitt.

12-13-2011, 12:48 PM	#11
ofitg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,447	Re: Anybody but ............ I could see a write-in vote for Allen West, he's one of the best guys out there. I agree, 2016 might be too late.... and it would be an extra four years for the snakes in DC to try and destroy West (morally, politically) while he's still a Congressman.

12-13-2011, 12:51 PM	#12
Popgunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Contributor Posts: 1,764	Re: Anybody but ............ We conservatives have perfected the art of splitting our vote & wasting our voice by stamping our feet & voting for "write-in" candidates. I'll give props to the libs/Dems on that front. They're smart enough to consolidate their votes to make a real difference. My favorite "conservative" is Mitt because I had experience with him when we had a horrible mess going on with the IOC here in Salt Lake for the 2002 winter olympics. We had the IOC members rent a big building and a fleet of new mercedes cars. The one official got drunk, raced his loaner mercedes into the building's parking garage & slid into several of the other parked Mercedes totaling them all. My buddy was managing the parking garage & called the police who were told to leave because all the IOC officials had diplomatic immunity. Similar situations were rampant during that time & Mitt was called in & used strong conservative management to change everything & save us from that horrible mess. I believe Mitt is totaly POTUS material. If Mitt doesn't get the Repub nomination I will not write his name in or vote for anyone as a statement. Maybe we need to start a third party with a real chance for their candidate to win but it's obvious to me that we're not anywhere close to that. I will vote for the Republican candidate. Last edited by Popgunner; 12-13-2011 at 12:54 PM..

12-13-2011, 01:03 PM	#15
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Anybody but ............ Half the people in this country still support Obozo, which is proof positive that there's no reaching them. They are unreachable. They can't be reached. Cranial rectumitis will do that - it's dark in there. And those people won't be shopping at Lowe's, either, which suits me right down to the ground. Obozo is losing support and hopefully that will continue. We know he's trying to import illegals and non-breeders to rock his vote, and there's a contingent of young Obots who've been bred to voting age since 2008. But the good news is, he's not GAINING support. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

12-13-2011, 06:41 PM	#17
hunterfisher V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 271	Re: Anybody but ............ Whats the deadline for someone to join the presidential run? Right now, theres no one I would vote for. And I'm an, INDEPENDENT.

12-13-2011, 09:34 PM	#18
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: Anybody but ............ We need to increase our strength in the House and take over the Senate. That is the BIG job. Getting Obama out will not mean much if we keep the same crooks in the lawmaking facilities. If we put a Republican in for his first term, he will be looking to get re-elected for his second term, so will tread a little lightly at first. If we have control of Congress, we can control him, to a certain extent. Voting third party or staying home is a vote for what we have right now. If you wish to vote against what this country needs, that is your right in this country. It being a right does not make it the correct course of action. It is difficult for me to see that helping the socialists keep control of the country is the right thing to do. Pops

12-13-2011, 09:44 PM	#19
H0tr0dder V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 102	Re: Anybody but ............ Honestly, I want a republican president. WHY? Not because I'm a republican, but because then maybe these nut cases saying that's what we need will see, it doesn't matter. It's all the other yahoos both dem and repub in congress that need to go. Dem or repub president...makes no difference because congress I full of a$$hole crooks. So saying "a republican will fix it" or " a democrat is the answer" is the dumbest thing you could hear during election time.

12-13-2011, 11:02 PM	#20
Songman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston, TX Contributor Posts: 272	Re: Anybody but ............ The point is - Obama is not the answer. He never was. Not one thing he has done has given any benefit to this country. Of course, I think that was his plan. I think he has been 100% successful at what he set out to do. Also, the point is that it does matter. Because the parties have drawn lines. And I fall more into the lines drawn by the Republicans than by the Democrats. No, neither side is perfect, and no one man can do it all by himself. But putting a Conservative Republican in the White House is a step in the right direction. And we gotta start somewhere.

12-14-2011, 08:27 PM	#22
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Re: Anybody but ............ This is the sentiment I was trying to convey. I'm afraid Newt, Mitt, and Rick are pouring honey in our ears to try and decieve us. Once they get in, I'm afraid they'll follow the same agenda, only with "right-wing cover". __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Haligan; 12-14-2011 at 08:29 PM..

12-14-2011, 08:49 PM	#23
Brisk44 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,747	Re: Anybody but ............ As to the original three choices, At least mussolini got the trains to running on time. And then had the good sense to die when the jig was up.