.58 cal smooth bore accuracy with round ball ? - The Firearms Forum

02-23-2003, 04:50 PM

celtdesign
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(12/26/02 10:50:02 am)
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Hi All

I need some help before I go and purchase a .58 cal smooth bore shotgun muzzle loading.

The gun I am thinking of buying is a (PARKERHSLE 1861 ENFIELD CARBINE .58 cal Shotgun muzzle loading)
The reason for purchasing this as a shotgun is our LAW here in the UK does not allow us to have this kind of calibre rifled out side the shooting range for hunting.
So I thought of using .58 cal round balls through the smooth bore but first I need to know a few things.

1 – How accurate will it be (if I do my part)?
2 – what range am I talking about to hunt 50-yard 75-yard 100 yard? for (FOX HUNTING) wild dogs
3 – What range would you guys Zero at?
4 – What kind of groupings should I expect and at what range?
5 – Black powder is a pain to get here in the UK permits are needed plus inspections from fire officers so I will be using other powders for the job (no black powder) so what would you guys surgest ?

Thank you for your time if you reply I really appreciate it thanks

Mike

JackRyann
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I'd suggest a revolution.

--44 mag, when you're ready to get serious--

poncho10 · 04-12-2003, 04:07 PM

hey tlynn

just read your post about smoothbores..

I have been shooting a .20 gage {.60} smoothbore for
years. if you work up a proper load/ballsize combo
shots out to 100 yards are not uncommon.
i can keep mine on a 9in paper plate offhand consistantly.
if i stay in practice.

but then that is the fun of bp.
plus i use it for upland game and rabbits and such.

and it is a flinter, which just adds to the fun of it

good luck
poncho

astute observer · 04-13-2003, 08:54 PM

Yes, smoothbores will shoot better than most people would suppose. It just requires the shooter to take the same care in loading that you would with a rifle. It will also require a little experimentation to figure out an optimum load.

As for black powder substitutes, I guess if you have to use one....you have to use one. I personally dislike Pyrodex, just as dirty as BP and MORE corrosive. I have heard some good things about CleanShot, although I have not tried it.

02-23-2003, 04:50 PM	#1
Guest Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	.58 cal smooth bore accuracy with round ball ? celtdesign Member Posts: 2 (12/26/02 10:50:02 am) Reply \| Edit \| Del All .58 cal smooth bore accuracy with round ball ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi All I need some help before I go and purchase a .58 cal smooth bore shotgun muzzle loading. The gun I am thinking of buying is a (PARKERHSLE 1861 ENFIELD CARBINE .58 cal Shotgun muzzle loading) The reason for purchasing this as a shotgun is our LAW here in the UK does not allow us to have this kind of calibre rifled out side the shooting range for hunting. So I thought of using .58 cal round balls through the smooth bore but first I need to know a few things. 1 – How accurate will it be (if I do my part)? 2 – what range am I talking about to hunt 50-yard 75-yard 100 yard? for (FOX HUNTING) wild dogs 3 – What range would you guys Zero at? 4 – What kind of groupings should I expect and at what range? 5 – Black powder is a pain to get here in the UK permits are needed plus inspections from fire officers so I will be using other powders for the job (no black powder) so what would you guys surgest ? Thank you for your time if you reply I really appreciate it thanks Mike JackRyann V.I.P. Member Posts: 86 (12/26/02 3:57:53 pm) Reply \| Edit \| Del Re: .58 cal smooth bore accuracy with round ball ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'd suggest a revolution. --44 mag, when you're ready to get serious-- -->

04-12-2003, 04:07 PM	#2
poncho10 Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: iowa Posts: 29	smoothbore acuracy hey tlynn just read your post about smoothbores.. I have been shooting a .20 gage {.60} smoothbore for years. if you work up a proper load/ballsize combo shots out to 100 yards are not uncommon. i can keep mine on a 9in paper plate offhand consistantly. if i stay in practice. but then that is the fun of bp. plus i use it for upland game and rabbits and such. and it is a flinter, which just adds to the fun of it good luck poncho

04-13-2003, 08:54 PM	#3
astute observer Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 46	.58 smoothbore Yes, smoothbores will shoot better than most people would suppose. It just requires the shooter to take the same care in loading that you would with a rifle. It will also require a little experimentation to figure out an optimum load. As for black powder substitutes, I guess if you have to use one....you have to use one. I personally dislike Pyrodex, just as dirty as BP and MORE corrosive. I have heard some good things about CleanShot, although I have not tried it.