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Mr. Nameless · 08-07-2009, 03:53 PM

Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed

The swine flu vaccine that is going to be tested have ingredients that has not been approved for use in the US but the testing is in full gear

Katheen Sebelius, The Secretary of U.S. Department of health and Human Services said that the first to be vaccinated should be your children, The list is now targeting the unborn with pregnant women.

But is a problem, the amount of death of children with regular flu doesn't make enough evidence to tell that swine flu will kill more children.

“Cure the Disease, Kill the Patient”

Less than 100 children in the U.S. die each year from seasonal flu viruses.[iv] If we use Australia’s math, a very rough estimate would be another 100 children could potentially die of swine flu in the United States in the coming year.

If children are the first target group in the U.S. per Sebelius, that means we’re about to inject around 75 million children with a fast tracked vaccine containing novel adjuvants, including dangerous squalene, to prevent perhaps 100 deaths.

I’m not overlooking the tragedy of the loss of even one child to an illness like the H1N1 flu virus. But there can be no argument that unnecessary mass injection of millions of children with a vaccine containing an adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases is a reckless, dangerous plan.

What people doesn't understand is that Flu vaccines also contain an arrange of other fatal ingredients that can also kill children and adults.

Flu vaccines can also contain a number of chemical toxins, including ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid) and even antibiotics like Neomycin and streptomycin.

Is the HIN1 vaccine any different? no it is not

Take notice of this people!!!!!

Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries.

Per Dr. Nass, there are only three vaccines in existence using an approved squalene adjuvant. None of the three are approved for use in the U.S.

So the big question What vaccine of swine flu we are getting that have Squalene approved? NONE.

The vaccine in trials HAVE squalene.

What Squalene does to Rats

Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time.

A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis.

What does to Humans

Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x]

The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP).

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...t-Exposed.aspx

Haligan · 08-07-2009, 04:58 PM

You obviously have a theory here Nameless,
Help me out, what are you trying to say?
Are you trying to tell me the Gubment doesn't have our best intrests at heart? I believe you.
Are you researching this topic to warn us not to take this vaccine or let our loved ones take it ?

bcj1755 · 08-07-2009, 05:40 PM

I wasn't planning on taking it anyhow. I never get a flu shot and I rarely catch the flu, maybe 5-6 time in 30 years.

I also thought it was fishy that they're all of a sudden pushing this swine flu vaccine on people. I read a story the other day that said this year, people getting flu shots will get three separate injections. THREE?! For a flu shot?! That sounds mighty strange to me. The first thought that ran through my head was, "What the hell is in these 'vaccines' that they're so desperate for people to take?"

22WRF · 08-07-2009, 05:44 PM

Those that try and force me will have to worry about the injection I give them

Haligan · 08-07-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 22WRF

Those that try and force me will have to worry about the injection I give them

LOL

Mr. Nameless · 08-07-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haligan

You obviously have a theory here Nameless,
Help me out, what are you trying to say?
Are you trying to tell me the Gubment doesn't have our best intrests at heart? I believe you.
Are you researching this topic to warn us not to take this vaccine or let our loved ones take it ?

Exactly.....

SpazFreak1911 · 08-07-2009, 10:21 PM

like i said in the last topic they has a scare in the 70's gave some crappy vaccine and it made some people paraplegics and killed some others this whole swine flu thing was just something the media can talk about more people die from the flu then this swine flu

Mr. Nameless · 08-07-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpazFreak1911

like i said in the last topic they has a scare in the 70's gave some crappy vaccine and it made some people paraplegics and killed some others this whole swine flu thing was just something the media can talk about more people die from the flu then this swine flu

You have no idea I got into arguements at stores with people that were so worried about the swine flu then I pointed this out and they called me liar.

Vladimir · 08-08-2009, 01:11 AM

It's not just the deaths that matter. Even though only ten children die per year from the flu, the strain it puts on our infrastructure is large. It is manageable of course. Now if you use the numbers you proposed, think about a strain on our economy/health system/infrastructure if all the sudden 10 times as many people got sick?

Mr. Nameless · 08-08-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

It's not just the deaths that matter. Even though only ten children die per year from the flu, the strain it puts on our infrastructure is large. It is manageable of course. Now if you use the numbers you proposed, think about a strain on our economy/health system/infrastructure if all the sudden 10 times as many people got sick?

I don't really know what to say to that.....

glocknut · 08-08-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 22WRF

Those that try and force me will have to worry about the injection I give them

+1

mike
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Rocket J Squirl · 08-08-2009, 02:27 AM

I knew some folks that were investigating the contaminated squaline a few years ago. Everyone in thier group died of cancer within 2 years of each other.

I have not had a shot since the first swine flu shots in the 1970s.

Please come to my door, and make me.

PharmrJohn · 08-08-2009, 04:05 AM

I get a flu shot every year. I got my pneumonia shot.....so I am good until age 65. I am going to get the Hep series here pretty quick (series of three). The new Zostivax shot (for shingles) is available now. I am getting that here soon as well when my new insurance kicks in. If the swine flu vaccine comes around, I will research it as I have the others and if it passes muster with the CDC and FDA (and I fully expect it to), I will not only get the shot, but have my wife and kids get it as well. But that is just me. I am keeping out of this debate and staying neutral as to what is best for you and your families, and you can understand why I am sure........

Now, I can provide a website that has reliable information that is actually designed for this topic.

I would encourage those interested in what is in the vaccines and how they work to refer to the the CDC website (www.cdc.gov) . I am sure any questions and concerns can be answered there. If I need information, this is where I go.

Folks.....be very, very careful where you get your information regarding this topic. Very careful. I cannot stress that enough. It is way too important. You will all make up your own minds as to what is valid for yourself and your family, based on beliefs and where you put your trust. Just make sure you are making an informed decision.

H1N1 is real. I joke about it turning us all into flesh eating zombies, but this strain of flu is nasty, and it's not done mutating. It will be around for awhile.

Big ugly · 08-08-2009, 05:29 AM

Its bad enough that they inject our children with vaccines that cuz autism now this. I had children's services called on me while my son was at Dayton Childrens Hospital cuz I did allow them to vaccinate a alredy sick child with a Drug that has been known to cuz autism. I dont fickin think so.

SpazFreak1911 · 08-08-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

It's not just the deaths that matter. Even though only ten children die per year from the flu, the strain it puts on our infrastructure is large. It is manageable of course. Now if you use the numbers you proposed, think about a strain on our economy/health system/infrastructure if all the sudden 10 times as many people got sick?

sir are you serious? there are 30,000-50,000 deaths from the common flu each year in the US and there are at least 500,000 deaths worldwide swine flu doesn't have anything on the common cold which is still very deadly

Rocket J Squirl · 08-08-2009, 12:28 PM

Quote:

What dont kill you, makes you stonger

Friedrich Nietzsche

Vladimir · 08-08-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SpazFreak1911

sir are you serious? there are 30,000-50,000 deaths from the common flu each year in the US and there are at least 500,000 deaths worldwide swine flu doesn't have anything on the common cold which is still very deadly

I was using numbers previously posted, whether the numbers were meant to be real or just to prove a point it doesn't really matter- the multiplication of 10 is what matters really.

I did think 10 sounded fishy though. Better e-mail the White House!

Terry_P · 08-08-2009, 03:00 PM

The younger people are first because us older f@rts have built more immunity to the swine flu from previous history with the disease. Like Pharmr I also get a flu shot each year. I have had the flu twice in my 62 years and that is enough.

Bobitis · 08-08-2009, 03:18 PM

As a child, my Mom would take us in every year for shots.
EVERY year, I got the flu.
This stopped when we got to our teens.
I've had the flu maybe 5 times in the last 30 years.

Sure, it has to do with exposure. Snot nosed kids in school spread germs.
In my case, maybe it was other kids that made me sick.
Maybe it was the shots.

I'm sitting on the sideline here.

Trouble 45-70 · 08-08-2009, 05:24 PM

I'm glad the shots are available but I don't want anyone telling me I have to take one. I will decide for my self. Wonder if we will not be allowed in stores in the near future if they succeed in forcing a National Health card with our medical record on it and we don't have our required shots.

Haligan · 08-09-2009, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket J Squirl

Friedrich Nietzsche

Yea, but he was kind of a nut though.

Rocket J Squirl · 08-09-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haligan

Yea, but he was kind of a nut though.

My type of scum

JLA · 08-09-2009, 12:16 PM

I have never had a flu vaccine and have only ever had the flu once, in 25 years. My sons. JR and Wes have never had any type of flu vaccine and they have yet to contract the flu, my daughter, Autumn had a flu vaccine when she was about to turn 2 and she contracted the flu within 3 days of recieving the flu shot. I dont trust artificial immunization. And the only ones my kids have ever had are the ones necessary to permit them to attend public schools. When I was a kid, i ate alot of dirt and am as healthy as a race horse, my kids eat more dirt than I ever did and they rarely get sick. I dont trust doctors, especially specialists, like pediatricians. They are money grubbers and I feel they like to keep your kids sick to make thier paychecks fatter... My advice, just take your vitamins and keep your system clean. Eat good wholesome foods and get plenty of exercise.

08-07-2009, 03:53 PM	#1
Mr. Nameless Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Coast of N.C. Posts: 1,264	Dirty little secret exposed. Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed The swine flu vaccine that is going to be tested have ingredients that has not been approved for use in the US but the testing is in full gear Katheen Sebelius, The Secretary of U.S. Department of health and Human Services said that the first to be vaccinated should be your children, The list is now targeting the unborn with pregnant women. But is a problem, the amount of death of children with regular flu doesn't make enough evidence to tell that swine flu will kill more children. “Cure the Disease, Kill the Patient” Less than 100 children in the U.S. die each year from seasonal flu viruses.[iv] If we use Australia’s math, a very rough estimate would be another 100 children could potentially die of swine flu in the United States in the coming year. If children are the first target group in the U.S. per Sebelius, that means we’re about to inject around 75 million children with a fast tracked vaccine containing novel adjuvants, including dangerous squalene, to prevent perhaps 100 deaths. I’m not overlooking the tragedy of the loss of even one child to an illness like the H1N1 flu virus. But there can be no argument that unnecessary mass injection of millions of children with a vaccine containing an adjuvant known to cause a host of debilitating autoimmune diseases is a reckless, dangerous plan. What people doesn't understand is that Flu vaccines also contain an arrange of other fatal ingredients that can also kill children and adults. Flu vaccines can also contain a number of chemical toxins, including ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid) and even antibiotics like Neomycin and streptomycin. Is the HIN1 vaccine any different? no it is not Take notice of this people!!!!! Novartis’s proprietary squalene adjuvant for their H1N1 vaccine is MF59. Glaxo’s is ASO3. MF59 has yet to be approved by the FDA for use in any U.S. vaccine, despite its history of use in other countries. Per Dr. Nass, there are only three vaccines in existence using an approved squalene adjuvant. None of the three are approved for use in the U.S. So the big question What vaccine of swine flu we are getting that have Squalene approved? NONE. The vaccine in trials HAVE squalene. What Squalene does to Rats Oil-based vaccination adjuvants like squalene have been proved to generate concentrated, unremitting immune responses over long periods of time. A 2000 study published in the American Journal of Pathology demonstrated a single injection of the adjuvant squalene into rats triggered “chronic, immune-mediated joint-specific inflammation,” also known as rheumatoid arthritis. What does to Humans Gulf War veterans with Gulf War Syndrome (GWS) received anthrax vaccines which contained squalene.[ix] MF59 (the Novartis squalene adjuvant) was an unapproved ingredient in experimental anthrax vaccines and has since been linked to the devastating autoimmune diseases suffered by countless Gulf War vets.[x] The Department of Defense made every attempt to deny that squalene was indeed an added contaminant in the anthrax vaccine administered to Persian Gulf war military personnel – deployed and non-deployed – as well as participants in the more recent Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP). http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...t-Exposed.aspx __________________ Signed ~BMP Two classifications of terrorist dead and not dead enough --> Last edited by Mr. Nameless; 08-07-2009 at 03:54 PM..

08-07-2009, 04:58 PM	#2
Haligan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FEMA Region II Posts: 1,900	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. You obviously have a theory here Nameless, Help me out, what are you trying to say? Are you trying to tell me the Gubment doesn't have our best intrests at heart? I believe you. Are you researching this topic to warn us not to take this vaccine or let our loved ones take it ? __________________ "He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falshoods and errors." - Thomas Jefferson

08-07-2009, 05:40 PM	#3
bcj1755 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A wretched hive of scum and villiany Posts: 4,357	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. I wasn't planning on taking it anyhow. I never get a flu shot and I rarely catch the flu, maybe 5-6 time in 30 years. I also thought it was fishy that they're all of a sudden pushing this swine flu vaccine on people. I read a story the other day that said this year, people getting flu shots will get three separate injections. THREE?! For a flu shot?! That sounds mighty strange to me. The first thought that ran through my head was, "What the hell is in these 'vaccines' that they're so desperate for people to take?" __________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - Cicero If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams

08-07-2009, 05:44 PM	#4
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,271	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. Those that try and force me will have to worry about the injection I give them __________________ NRA GOA CCRKBA Happiness is a warm barrel

08-07-2009, 10:21 PM	#7
SpazFreak1911 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New york city Posts: 357	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. like i said in the last topic they has a scare in the 70's gave some crappy vaccine and it made some people paraplegics and killed some others this whole swine flu thing was just something the media can talk about more people die from the flu then this swine flu

08-08-2009, 01:11 AM	#9
Vladimir Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Issaquah WA Posts: 3,558	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. It's not just the deaths that matter. Even though only ten children die per year from the flu, the strain it puts on our infrastructure is large. It is manageable of course. Now if you use the numbers you proposed, think about a strain on our economy/health system/infrastructure if all the sudden 10 times as many people got sick? __________________ -JVRR меня зовут Владимир или Джеймс. Я знаю только немного русский язык (я американец, но мой пра дедушка русски). STEAM (CSS, TF2, etc): Ask me! Xbox LIVE! GT: "Vlad is Rad" PS3 PSN: "Vlad_Is_Rad"

08-08-2009, 02:27 AM	#12
Rocket J Squirl Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 418	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. I knew some folks that were investigating the contaminated squaline a few years ago. Everyone in thier group died of cancer within 2 years of each other. I have not had a shot since the first swine flu shots in the 1970s. Please come to my door, and make me.

08-08-2009, 04:05 AM	#13
PharmrJohn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Western Washington Posts: 975	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. I get a flu shot every year. I got my pneumonia shot.....so I am good until age 65. I am going to get the Hep series here pretty quick (series of three). The new Zostivax shot (for shingles) is available now. I am getting that here soon as well when my new insurance kicks in. If the swine flu vaccine comes around, I will research it as I have the others and if it passes muster with the CDC and FDA (and I fully expect it to), I will not only get the shot, but have my wife and kids get it as well. But that is just me. I am keeping out of this debate and staying neutral as to what is best for you and your families, and you can understand why I am sure........ Now, I can provide a website that has reliable information that is actually designed for this topic. I would encourage those interested in what is in the vaccines and how they work to refer to the the CDC website (www.cdc.gov) . I am sure any questions and concerns can be answered there. If I need information, this is where I go. Folks.....be very, very careful where you get your information regarding this topic. Very careful. I cannot stress that enough. It is way too important. You will all make up your own minds as to what is valid for yourself and your family, based on beliefs and where you put your trust. Just make sure you are making an informed decision. H1N1 is real. I joke about it turning us all into flesh eating zombies, but this strain of flu is nasty, and it's not done mutating. It will be around for awhile.

08-08-2009, 05:29 AM	#14
Big ugly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Knoxville Tennessee Contributor Posts: 2,603	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. Its bad enough that they inject our children with vaccines that cuz autism now this. I had children's services called on me while my son was at Dayton Childrens Hospital cuz I did allow them to vaccinate a alredy sick child with a Drug that has been known to cuz autism. I dont fickin think so. __________________ "You say the Devil made do it with a smile. Raisin' hell and howlin at the moon. Well I'm gonna put your @$$ back in line. I'm gonna scare the Devil out of you." BlackBerry Smoke Song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R513dA4peMg Nothing is "proof" against a truly talented fool. Swanshot

08-08-2009, 03:00 PM	#18
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. The younger people are first because us older f@rts have built more immunity to the swine flu from previous history with the disease. Like Pharmr I also get a flu shot each year. I have had the flu twice in my 62 years and that is enough. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

08-08-2009, 03:18 PM	#19
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. As a child, my Mom would take us in every year for shots. EVERY year, I got the flu. This stopped when we got to our teens. I've had the flu maybe 5 times in the last 30 years. Sure, it has to do with exposure. Snot nosed kids in school spread germs. In my case, maybe it was other kids that made me sick. Maybe it was the shots. I'm sitting on the sideline here. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

08-08-2009, 05:24 PM	#20
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. I'm glad the shots are available but I don't want anyone telling me I have to take one. I will decide for my self. Wonder if we will not be allowed in stores in the near future if they succeed in forcing a National Health card with our medical record on it and we don't have our required shots.

08-09-2009, 12:16 PM	#23
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,407	Re: Dirty little secret exposed. I have never had a flu vaccine and have only ever had the flu once, in 25 years. My sons. JR and Wes have never had any type of flu vaccine and they have yet to contract the flu, my daughter, Autumn had a flu vaccine when she was about to turn 2 and she contracted the flu within 3 days of recieving the flu shot. I dont trust artificial immunization. And the only ones my kids have ever had are the ones necessary to permit them to attend public schools. When I was a kid, i ate alot of dirt and am as healthy as a race horse, my kids eat more dirt than I ever did and they rarely get sick. I dont trust doctors, especially specialists, like pediatricians. They are money grubbers and I feel they like to keep your kids sick to make thier paychecks fatter... My advice, just take your vitamins and keep your system clean. Eat good wholesome foods and get plenty of exercise. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!