Webley British Bulldog? - The Firearms Forum

kalisgems · 01-25-2011, 09:50 PM

I was told this is a Webley British Bulldog. It is a weathered gun. I can only see a few proof marks on the revolver. Does anyone have a clue about this firearm. The number 17 is stamped on almost every part also.

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hrf · 01-25-2011, 10:20 PM

Absolutely NOT a Webley. The proof marks are German, and it's a typical pocket pistol probably dating 1890s to WW-1.

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=86010

Jim K · 01-26-2011, 12:34 PM

Those guns were made in large numbers, in several countries, and in numerous variations. In the U.S. there is a mild collector interest but they are usually treated as novelties. Value is generally less than the U.S. equivalent guns of the same period, but specimens in nice condition can bring over $100, with engraved or exceptional guns bringing more. Unfortunately, that gun, in that condition probably has no real value, except as an example of the type.

Jim

Jim Hauff · 01-26-2011, 04:20 PM

Typical European design with safety on left side of frame.

Jim K · 01-26-2011, 06:46 PM

I may be wrong, but I think the safety was only required on guns made (or sold?) in Germany.

Jim

hrf · 01-26-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim K

I may be wrong, but I think the safety was only required on guns made (or sold?) in Germany.

Jim

Jim, I've seen the identical safety on many Belgian proofed solid frame revolvers, and I doubt Germany imported them.

Jim K · 01-26-2011, 09:53 PM

No but a maker could well put them on all guns of a type being sold in Germany, even if some guns went elsewhere. I have seen Belgian made guns without them, where all German made guns seem to have them. Not really important as it does nothing for the value of the gun.

Jim

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01-25-2011, 10:20 PM	#2
hrf Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,308	Re: Webley British Bulldog? Absolutely NOT a Webley. The proof marks are German, and it's a typical pocket pistol probably dating 1890s to WW-1. http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=86010 Last edited by hrf; 01-26-2011 at 07:59 AM..

01-26-2011, 12:34 PM	#3
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Webley British Bulldog? Those guns were made in large numbers, in several countries, and in numerous variations. In the U.S. there is a mild collector interest but they are usually treated as novelties. Value is generally less than the U.S. equivalent guns of the same period, but specimens in nice condition can bring over $100, with engraved or exceptional guns bringing more. Unfortunately, that gun, in that condition probably has no real value, except as an example of the type. Jim

01-26-2011, 04:20 PM	#4
Jim Hauff Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 2,980	Re: Webley British Bulldog? Typical European design with safety on left side of frame. __________________ Jim Hauff ~ H&R Collector In Memory of Bill Goforth and Jim Ritchie

01-26-2011, 06:46 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Webley British Bulldog? I may be wrong, but I think the safety was only required on guns made (or sold?) in Germany. Jim

01-26-2011, 09:53 PM	#7
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Webley British Bulldog? No but a maker could well put them on all guns of a type being sold in Germany, even if some guns went elsewhere. I have seen Belgian made guns without them, where all German made guns seem to have them. Not really important as it does nothing for the value of the gun. Jim