.357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? - The Firearms Forum

user · 08-05-2012, 09:17 AM

So, here's the thing. I'm thinking I'll buy some more .357 ammo, but I run it through a Marlin lever action carbine as well as revolvers of 4" and 6" barrel length. So I'm looking at semijacketed hollow points and semijacketed lead soft (truncated) points.

Anything pointy can't be used in the tube-fed carbine, and I'm looking for the most general purpose compromise. Need to be able to shoot wolves, black bears, etc. as well as vicious soda cans. I figure the soft-point bullets will provide better penetration, but with a .357 is that really necessary (East of the Mississippi, where there are no really large animals)? I'm thinking, what's the point of punching holes clean through the average wolf or coyote?

Bullet weights and prices are identical for what I'm thinking about.

ozo · 08-05-2012, 09:36 AM

I see no difference between the two, especially for your application.
I also fire the same rounds thru revolvers and lever guns......
and all my components and load data are chosen accordingly.

JLA · 08-05-2012, 10:46 AM

I personally like the SP design. especially for the rifle. But either will perform to your expectations.

Old Grump · 08-05-2012, 10:59 AM

I shoot both because I have to get what I can get when I can get it but for SD purposes I use LSWC. However my choice for hunting is the SJSP or JSP. I have no empirical proof one is better than the other but they just seem to me that they would better penetrate then a hollow point. I never had an issue with any of them not working in any Marlin, Winchester or Henry gun.

skullfr · 08-05-2012, 12:00 PM

I only have a revolver but use Federal hydrashock 140 grn.I would see no difference in the choices you stated.

user · 08-05-2012, 05:49 PM

Thanks, that pretty much mirrors my expectations. I think I'll go with the hollow points, because it'll work better in those applications that require a defensive round, and not make any real difference otherwise. Overpenetration won't be of any benefit (no grizzlies in my part of the world).

JLA · 08-05-2012, 06:02 PM

Good thinkin..

08-05-2012, 09:17 AM	#1
user Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern piedmont of Va. and Middle of Nowhere, West Virginia Posts: 1,013	.357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? So, here's the thing. I'm thinking I'll buy some more .357 ammo, but I run it through a Marlin lever action carbine as well as revolvers of 4" and 6" barrel length. So I'm looking at semijacketed hollow points and semijacketed lead soft (truncated) points. Anything pointy can't be used in the tube-fed carbine, and I'm looking for the most general purpose compromise. Need to be able to shoot wolves, black bears, etc. as well as vicious soda cans. I figure the soft-point bullets will provide better penetration, but with a .357 is that really necessary (East of the Mississippi, where there are no really large animals)? I'm thinking, what's the point of punching holes clean through the average wolf or coyote? Bullet weights and prices are identical for what I'm thinking about. __________________ ===== Daniel L. Hawes - 540 347 2430 - HTTP://www.VirginiaLegalDefense.com By the way, nothing I say on this website as "user" should be taken as either advertising for attorney services or legal advice. Everyone having a question regarding the application of law to the facts of their situation should seek the advice of an attorney competent in the subject matter of the issues presented and licensed to practice in the relevant state. -->

08-05-2012, 09:36 AM	#2
ozo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 2,770	Re: .357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? I see no difference between the two, especially for your application. I also fire the same rounds thru revolvers and lever guns...... and all my components and load data are chosen accordingly. __________________ http://www.nranews.com/#/nranews, "ozo. you're off your rocker sir." -johnlives4christ http://www.prisonplanet.com/ -America,Bless GOD-

08-05-2012, 10:46 AM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,308	Re: .357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? I personally like the SP design. especially for the rifle. But either will perform to your expectations. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

08-05-2012, 10:59 AM	#4
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,286	Re: .357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? I shoot both because I have to get what I can get when I can get it but for SD purposes I use LSWC. However my choice for hunting is the SJSP or JSP. I have no empirical proof one is better than the other but they just seem to me that they would better penetrate then a hollow point. I never had an issue with any of them not working in any Marlin, Winchester or Henry gun. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

08-05-2012, 12:00 PM	#5
skullfr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 902	Re: .357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? I only have a revolver but use Federal hydrashock 140 grn.I would see no difference in the choices you stated. __________________ If Ya cant stand up stand out There is no atheist in a foxhole Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the Lord my strength,which teacheth my hand to war and my fingers to fight

08-05-2012, 05:49 PM	#6
user Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern piedmont of Va. and Middle of Nowhere, West Virginia Posts: 1,013	Re: .357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? Thanks, that pretty much mirrors my expectations. I think I'll go with the hollow points, because it'll work better in those applications that require a defensive round, and not make any real difference otherwise. Overpenetration won't be of any benefit (no grizzlies in my part of the world). __________________ ===== Daniel L. Hawes - 540 347 2430 - HTTP://www.VirginiaLegalDefense.com By the way, nothing I say on this website as "user" should be taken as either advertising for attorney services or legal advice. Everyone having a question regarding the application of law to the facts of their situation should seek the advice of an attorney competent in the subject matter of the issues presented and licensed to practice in the relevant state.

08-05-2012, 06:02 PM	#7
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,308	Re: .357 sjhp or sjsp? any advantage to either? Good thinkin.. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!