Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) - The Firearms Forum

Blankman8 · 01-30-2007, 11:47 AM

Hello everyone.

To best of my knowledge and the finer data I've grasped about this pistol... It was buried somewhere in area of Balkans.

Dare I say as someone who is completely weapon ignorant that this has any relation to WW1?

Anyway, could someone please explain to me, what sort of the gun/pistol is this?

Name, period, value of symbolic or more concrete value.

Thank you for you comments

Picture 1 (314kb) : http://tinyurl.com/2x6hk3

Picture 2 (141kb) : http://tinyurl.com/yo83eu

johnston3407 · 01-30-2007, 06:54 PM

I don't know what it might be, but there are others here that will.
Nice find though!

Ursus · 01-31-2007, 06:12 AM

It's a Gasser or a coppy of it. More info here:http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Gass80.htm. Probably a Sederl (Austrian made)

Alpo · 02-03-2007, 08:49 PM

I'm not sure what it is, but it is not even close to being that Gasser.

Gasser is a top-break. This one is solid frame. The Gasser picture shows a teardrop-shaped grip. The photo shows one similar to a S&W square butt. If it had an ejector rod, I would suspect a loading gate on the right side, similar to a Colt single action. Since it doesn't, I suspect that the cylinder pin unscrews to let the cylinder come out. It is obviously double action. That appears to be a safety underneath the hammer. It just LOOKS like it is French or Belgian.

Ursus · 02-03-2007, 11:53 PM

I'll have to re-check my facts

BIGBOOMER · 02-21-2007, 07:46 PM

Probably any definitive markings are long lost to the rust, but it appears to me to be a Belgian copy of a British RIC revolver. Belgium had quite a cottage industry of cheap handguns, hundreds if not thousands of small makers producing their own versions of popular designs. These varied in quality from "passable" to "iron mongery".
Best regards, BIGBOOMER

clmanges · 02-21-2007, 09:00 PM

Possibly a pre-Soviet- era Rust-ovich . . .
hee hee

berto64 · 02-21-2007, 11:17 PM

Could be an early Husqvarna revolver, just a guess.

The Rifleman · 02-22-2007, 10:19 AM

Get out a wire wheel and after you get the rust off - tell us what it says on the barrel.

If the letters are all backwards - you know it is russian.

If the words are in german, then you know it is german.

If the words are in english, it is probably from England.

The gun pretty much looks like some english contraption.

Worth about $.05 if scrap is going for about $200 a ton in your area.

You would have to know the area of where it was found.
Who found it.

Have documentation of who found it / where it was found.

Then you would have to research who made the pistol and when it was made and then when there was any skermishes in that particular country.

Since a lot of WW I was fought in trenches, and not on battle fields like before the civil war. It is most likely that some body lost it in one of their civil wars and not in WW I.

Dough boys often carried small arms from home with them when they went into battle and any one of them could have dropped it - if they were in that area during WW I.

But I don't remember my Grand PA telling me anything about them going that far. WW I only lasted but 535 days for the american troops.

Then again it could have been dropped by some chicken theif that was being chased by a farmer with a pitch fork.

Just because it was lost, doesn't mean that it was lost in battle.

If I had a nickle for every Barlow pocket knife that I lost when I was a kid, I would be a rich man.

To this day I do not know where they all went to.

If I lost one on our family trip to Gettysburgh, when I was a kid.

I wonder if anyone 20 years from now would dig it up and wonder if it belonged to someone from the 20th Maine.

01-30-2007, 11:47 AM	#1
Blankman8 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1	Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) Hello everyone. To best of my knowledge and the finer data I've grasped about this pistol... It was buried somewhere in area of Balkans. Dare I say as someone who is completely weapon ignorant that this has any relation to WW1? Anyway, could someone please explain to me, what sort of the gun/pistol is this? Name, period, value of symbolic or more concrete value. Thank you for you comments Picture 1 (314kb) : http://tinyurl.com/2x6hk3 Picture 2 (141kb) : http://tinyurl.com/yo83eu -->

01-30-2007, 06:54 PM	#2
johnston3407 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 592	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) I don't know what it might be, but there are others here that will. Nice find though!

01-31-2007, 06:12 AM	#3
Ursus Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Salvador, Central America. Posts: 1,030	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) It's a Gasser or a coppy of it. More info here:http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Gass80.htm. Probably a Sederl (Austrian made) __________________ SI VIS PACEM, PARABELLUM. Last edited by Ursus; 01-31-2007 at 06:14 AM..

02-03-2007, 08:49 PM	#4
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,662	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) I'm not sure what it is, but it is not even close to being that Gasser. Gasser is a top-break. This one is solid frame. The Gasser picture shows a teardrop-shaped grip. The photo shows one similar to a S&W square butt. If it had an ejector rod, I would suspect a loading gate on the right side, similar to a Colt single action. Since it doesn't, I suspect that the cylinder pin unscrews to let the cylinder come out. It is obviously double action. That appears to be a safety underneath the hammer. It just LOOKS like it is French or Belgian.

02-03-2007, 11:53 PM	#5
Ursus Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: El Salvador, Central America. Posts: 1,030	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) I'll have to re-check my facts __________________ SI VIS PACEM, PARABELLUM. Last edited by Ursus; 02-03-2007 at 11:56 PM..

02-21-2007, 07:46 PM	#6
BIGBOOMER V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 265	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) Probably any definitive markings are long lost to the rust, but it appears to me to be a Belgian copy of a British RIC revolver. Belgium had quite a cottage industry of cheap handguns, hundreds if not thousands of small makers producing their own versions of popular designs. These varied in quality from "passable" to "iron mongery". Best regards, BIGBOOMER __________________ Use Enough Gun. Do all your hunting BEFORE you shoot!

02-21-2007, 09:00 PM	#7
clmanges V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 203	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) Possibly a pre-Soviet- era Rust-ovich . . . hee hee __________________ Happiness is a warm gun

02-21-2007, 11:17 PM	#8
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) Could be an early Husqvarna revolver, just a guess. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

02-22-2007, 10:19 AM	#9
The Rifleman Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 135	Re: Pronounce this past for me please (pistol) Get out a wire wheel and after you get the rust off - tell us what it says on the barrel. If the letters are all backwards - you know it is russian. If the words are in german, then you know it is german. If the words are in english, it is probably from England. The gun pretty much looks like some english contraption. Worth about $.05 if scrap is going for about $200 a ton in your area. You would have to know the area of where it was found. Who found it. Have documentation of who found it / where it was found. Then you would have to research who made the pistol and when it was made and then when there was any skermishes in that particular country. Since a lot of WW I was fought in trenches, and not on battle fields like before the civil war. It is most likely that some body lost it in one of their civil wars and not in WW I. Dough boys often carried small arms from home with them when they went into battle and any one of them could have dropped it - if they were in that area during WW I. But I don't remember my Grand PA telling me anything about them going that far. WW I only lasted but 535 days for the american troops. Then again it could have been dropped by some chicken theif that was being chased by a farmer with a pitch fork. Just because it was lost, doesn't mean that it was lost in battle. If I had a nickle for every Barlow pocket knife that I lost when I was a kid, I would be a rich man. To this day I do not know where they all went to. If I lost one on our family trip to Gettysburgh, when I was a kid. I wonder if anyone 20 years from now would dig it up and wonder if it belonged to someone from the 20th Maine. Last edited by The Rifleman; 02-22-2007 at 10:22 AM..