shipping ammo - The Firearms Forum

topper · 12-26-2009, 09:52 AM

Can .22 rimfire ammo be bought over the internet and shipped DIRECTLY to the buyer without going through a FFL dealer? Sorry to ask this, but I just don't know.

pinecone70 · 12-26-2009, 09:55 AM

I think so, but it is probably HAZMAT with applicable shipping requirements. When I order surplus ammo, it arrives via FedEx.

Eddie N · 12-26-2009, 10:08 AM

I've bough on internet and it was shipped directly to me. They don't consider it hazmat, it comes marked orm-d. Shipping charges are what gets you, though. Better to buy in bulk if ordering on internet. It was delivered FedEx or UPS to me.

JohnTheCalifornian · 12-27-2009, 12:05 AM

If you buy on the internet, I suggest you go through Midway. They seem to have the best prices when it comes to shipping.

LDBennett · 12-27-2009, 06:23 AM

I order 22 ammo via the internet and the last bunch was from Midway. But that will end soon as the CA legislature, you know that liberal bunch of dummies in Sacramento who can't add the budget up so it comes out balanced, decided that handgun ammo was BAD. So they passed a law with several not so good "features":

1). all handgun ammo must be out of view of the customer

2). all ammo sales will be documented with name, address, and other details verified with ID

3). a finger print will be taken

4). you can only buy 50 rounds a month and unless there is a loop hole in the law I suppose that means no Internet sales (??)

5). if a handgun was ever made in a caliber then the law covers that caliber as well (think of all the rifle ammo that has been used in Thompson Contenders!)

Don't you feel safer now!

LDBennett

res45 · 12-27-2009, 07:04 AM

topper in the majority of states it's not a problem shipping ammo directly to your door. In my state of NC all that is required is that you be 21 years of age and email the vendor a scanned copy of your drivers license.

There is no HAZMAT fee to ship ammo that only applies to powder and primers for reloading,you can even ship primed brass with no HAZMAT fee.

Ammo is shipped via UPS or FEDX because the US postal service although they follow DOT regulations will not handle or ship powder,primers or loaded ammunition. I've bought ammo of all kinds off the net for many years and never had to pay any extra fee just standard shipping cost and it came right to my door.

http://www.adazonusa.com/howtoshipam...ammo-a-45.html

pinecone70 · 12-27-2009, 07:15 AM

I think it is HAZMAT, at least it is according to the FedEx website.....

Old Guy · 12-27-2009, 07:55 AM

I have bought a lot of ammo via the internet and have never had any problem with HAZMAT stuff. That usually only applies to primers and powder. If you state law allows the ammo to be shipped to you then just the shipping should apply.

Old Guy

pinecone70 · 12-27-2009, 08:09 AM

Everyone can draw their own conclusions from the black and white statement from FedEx. I imagine if anything should happen due to the non-disclosure of the contents, a person could get into a heap of trouble. We all know how packages are treated by shipping companies.

res45 · 12-27-2009, 09:06 AM

No Co. can ship firearms and ammo in the same package via FedX or UPS.

Graf and Sons FAQ

Hazardous Materials
Q: What is your hazardous material fee?

A: A hazardous materials fee (haz mat fee) of $22.50 is charged to any ground order containing powder, primers, fuse or gun cleaning liquids over 1 quart. This fee is per package with a max gross weight of 70 lbs/package. Smokeless powder and primers can be combined (up to 50 lbs) under 1 haz mat fee. Black powder requires a separate fee and cannot be combined with any other hazardous materials. Hazardous Materials require an adult signature for delivery. ID may be required at delivery for proof of age. See Terms and Conditions for more details.
Q: What is the minimum quantity of powder/primers I can order?

A: The minimum order of powder is 4 lbs. The minimum order for primers is 1,000 primers.
Q: Is the haz mat fee required for ammunition?

A: The haz mat fee does not apply to ammunition unless shipped via air ($32.50).

Willie · 12-27-2009, 09:39 AM

I order online all the time and the stuff comes to me no problems at all. It is marked as Ordinance however. UPS or Fed-ex just leaves it on my porch most times. Another point for Texas!

Gearheadpyro · 12-27-2009, 03:39 PM

Loaded ammunition can be shipped without a hazmat fee. Powder and Primers must have a hazmat fee. I've bought .22's from Cabelas a few times, straight to me, just shipping charges.

I think the loaded ammo can be shipped without a hazmat because if it is caught in a fire it just pops apart, and detonating one case will not set off the entire box. Primer's will likely set off the entire box if one should go, and that can be a powerful explosion. Similarly, powder jugs if caught on fire have a large amount of energy in them and can be dangerous when ignited.

TheGunClinger · 12-27-2009, 06:03 PM

In Fla. I always have to PAY THE hAZMAT FEE IF ORDERING POWDER OR PRIMERS AND IF i REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK i AM PRETTY SURE i PAID IT ON .223'S AS WELL. i NEVER (stupid caploks) bought .22's online as it is cheap enough here as to not want to pay shipping or hazmat. How many .22's are you talking about?

12-26-2009, 09:52 AM	#1
topper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: deep in the woods Posts: 748	shipping ammo Can .22 rimfire ammo be bought over the internet and shipped DIRECTLY to the buyer without going through a FFL dealer? Sorry to ask this, but I just don't know. -->

12-26-2009, 09:55 AM	#2
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: shipping ammo I think so, but it is probably HAZMAT with applicable shipping requirements. When I order surplus ammo, it arrives via FedEx. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

12-26-2009, 10:08 AM	#3
Eddie N Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Colorado Contributor Posts: 1,192	Re: shipping ammo I've bough on internet and it was shipped directly to me. They don't consider it hazmat, it comes marked orm-d. Shipping charges are what gets you, though. Better to buy in bulk if ordering on internet. It was delivered FedEx or UPS to me.

12-27-2009, 12:05 AM	#4
JohnTheCalifornian V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 433	Re: shipping ammo If you buy on the internet, I suggest you go through Midway. They seem to have the best prices when it comes to shipping. __________________ Im not a complete idiot.... parts are missing

12-27-2009, 06:23 AM	#5
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,718	Re: shipping ammo I order 22 ammo via the internet and the last bunch was from Midway. But that will end soon as the CA legislature, you know that liberal bunch of dummies in Sacramento who can't add the budget up so it comes out balanced, decided that handgun ammo was BAD. So they passed a law with several not so good "features": 1). all handgun ammo must be out of view of the customer 2). all ammo sales will be documented with name, address, and other details verified with ID 3). a finger print will be taken 4). you can only buy 50 rounds a month and unless there is a loop hole in the law I suppose that means no Internet sales (??) 5). if a handgun was ever made in a caliber then the law covers that caliber as well (think of all the rifle ammo that has been used in Thompson Contenders!) Don't you feel safer now! LDBennett

12-27-2009, 07:04 AM	#6
res45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 182	Re: shipping ammo topper in the majority of states it's not a problem shipping ammo directly to your door. In my state of NC all that is required is that you be 21 years of age and email the vendor a scanned copy of your drivers license. There is no HAZMAT fee to ship ammo that only applies to powder and primers for reloading,you can even ship primed brass with no HAZMAT fee. Ammo is shipped via UPS or FEDX because the US postal service although they follow DOT regulations will not handle or ship powder,primers or loaded ammunition. I've bought ammo of all kinds off the net for many years and never had to pay any extra fee just standard shipping cost and it came right to my door. http://www.adazonusa.com/howtoshipam...ammo-a-45.html Last edited by res45; 12-27-2009 at 07:09 AM..

12-27-2009, 07:15 AM	#7
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: shipping ammo I think it is HAZMAT, at least it is according to the FedEx website..... Attached Images __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

12-27-2009, 07:55 AM	#8
Old Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Beaufort County, NC Contributor Posts: 343	Re: shipping ammo I have bought a lot of ammo via the internet and have never had any problem with HAZMAT stuff. That usually only applies to primers and powder. If you state law allows the ammo to be shipped to you then just the shipping should apply. Old Guy

12-27-2009, 08:09 AM	#9
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: shipping ammo Everyone can draw their own conclusions from the black and white statement from FedEx. I imagine if anything should happen due to the non-disclosure of the contents, a person could get into a heap of trouble. We all know how packages are treated by shipping companies. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

12-27-2009, 09:06 AM	#10
res45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 182	Re: shipping ammo No Co. can ship firearms and ammo in the same package via FedX or UPS. Graf and Sons FAQ Hazardous Materials Q: What is your hazardous material fee? A: A hazardous materials fee (haz mat fee) of $22.50 is charged to any ground order containing powder, primers, fuse or gun cleaning liquids over 1 quart. This fee is per package with a max gross weight of 70 lbs/package. Smokeless powder and primers can be combined (up to 50 lbs) under 1 haz mat fee. Black powder requires a separate fee and cannot be combined with any other hazardous materials. Hazardous Materials require an adult signature for delivery. ID may be required at delivery for proof of age. See Terms and Conditions for more details. Q: What is the minimum quantity of powder/primers I can order? A: The minimum order of powder is 4 lbs. The minimum order for primers is 1,000 primers. Q: Is the haz mat fee required for ammunition? A: The haz mat fee does not apply to ammunition unless shipped via air ($32.50). Last edited by res45; 12-27-2009 at 09:15 AM..

12-27-2009, 09:39 AM	#11
Willie Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Galveston,TX Contributor Posts: 1,002	Re: shipping ammo I order online all the time and the stuff comes to me no problems at all. It is marked as Ordinance however. UPS or Fed-ex just leaves it on my porch most times. Another point for Texas! __________________ Willie West End Electric Galveston Electricians

12-27-2009, 03:39 PM	#12
Gearheadpyro V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 110	Re: shipping ammo Loaded ammunition can be shipped without a hazmat fee. Powder and Primers must have a hazmat fee. I've bought .22's from Cabelas a few times, straight to me, just shipping charges. I think the loaded ammo can be shipped without a hazmat because if it is caught in a fire it just pops apart, and detonating one case will not set off the entire box. Primer's will likely set off the entire box if one should go, and that can be a powerful explosion. Similarly, powder jugs if caught on fire have a large amount of energy in them and can be dangerous when ignited. __________________ www.southernmarksman.com Owner of & Chief Instructor for The Southern Marksman, LLC NRA Life Member, NRA CRSO, Multi-Discipline NRA Certified Instructor

12-27-2009, 06:03 PM	#13
TheGunClinger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SW Florida Contributor Posts: 2,386	Re: shipping ammo In Fla. I always have to PAY THE hAZMAT FEE IF ORDERING POWDER OR PRIMERS AND IF i REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK i AM PRETTY SURE i PAID IT ON .223'S AS WELL. i NEVER (stupid caploks) bought .22's online as it is cheap enough here as to not want to pay shipping or hazmat. How many .22's are you talking about? __________________ New England Patriots Rule Next year.