Unmarked flint lock rifle - The Firearms Forum

bobbyhiroaki · 10-15-2010, 12:20 PM

This double barrel rifle is not marked and has a very nice, what appears to be hand carved, duck on the handle. You can tell by looking at the patina of the metal and wood that it is old. The rifle measures 52 inches and the barrel measures 35 inches. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

bobbyhiroaki · 10-15-2010, 12:22 PM

couple more photos......

flintlock · 10-15-2010, 12:29 PM

This is a percussion gun, not a flintlock. The back action locks, hooked breech, and general lines of what I can see of the stock, and the carving, suggest it was made in the middle 19th century, most likely in Europe. Can you see ant proof marks?

wonderwhippet · 10-15-2010, 01:03 PM

IMHO it's a shotgun, not a rifle.

Jim K · 10-15-2010, 08:17 PM

I think the shotgun is almost certainly Belgian and will likely have Belgian proof marks under the barrels. The brass plates appear to be an old repair job for a badly cracked stock.

I admit to not being "up" on the prices of percussion guns, but IMHO none of those three guns has any collector interest or any real value. The rifles appear to be late guns (probably c. 1855) and the shotgun is an inexpensive gun, probably Belgian. As noted, none are flintlock. They are the kind of "no name" guns that show up in antique shops at inflated prices and are sold to folks who imagine that they are valuable antiques. In other venues, with more knowledgeable buyers, they bring a couple of hundred dollars as decorators.

Jim

10-15-2010, 12:20 PM	#1
bobbyhiroaki Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 8	Unmarked flint lock rifle This double barrel rifle is not marked and has a very nice, what appears to be hand carved, duck on the handle. You can tell by looking at the patina of the metal and wood that it is old. The rifle measures 52 inches and the barrel measures 35 inches. Any info would be greatly appreciated, thank you. Attached Images -->

10-15-2010, 12:22 PM	#2
bobbyhiroaki Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 8	Re: Unmarked flint lock rifle couple more photos...... Attached Images

10-15-2010, 12:29 PM	#3
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 897	Re: Unmarked flint lock rifle This is a percussion gun, not a flintlock. The back action locks, hooked breech, and general lines of what I can see of the stock, and the carving, suggest it was made in the middle 19th century, most likely in Europe. Can you see ant proof marks?

10-15-2010, 01:03 PM	#4
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,586	Re: Unmarked flint lock rifle IMHO it's a shotgun, not a rifle.

10-15-2010, 08:17 PM	#5
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Unmarked flint lock rifle I think the shotgun is almost certainly Belgian and will likely have Belgian proof marks under the barrels. The brass plates appear to be an old repair job for a badly cracked stock. I admit to not being "up" on the prices of percussion guns, but IMHO none of those three guns has any collector interest or any real value. The rifles appear to be late guns (probably c. 1855) and the shotgun is an inexpensive gun, probably Belgian. As noted, none are flintlock. They are the kind of "no name" guns that show up in antique shops at inflated prices and are sold to folks who imagine that they are valuable antiques. In other venues, with more knowledgeable buyers, they bring a couple of hundred dollars as decorators. Jim