"Waltzing Matilda"

[AL MOUNT]

I stumbeled across this interesting piece of Aussie history.

A song we all know, isn't quite what we thought it to be,

and did not originate in America.


Enjoy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waltzing_Matilda

[jack404]

thers been a few arguments over this one over time

it would be impossible to count how many US folkks come here and tell us about thers song and how we in Australia stole it

just one of many things patented in the US that we have to pay for now

as our patents and copyrights are never recognised by the US

thers another version out there goings like this

once a jolly lawyer
from somewhre near the rio grand
came to Australia to see what he could steal

when he saw it was a honest place
he stole the soul and heart of it
and put it up for saaaale

the rest gets a bit rude after that

but its common that US companies patent stuff and names like billabong
kangaroo, outback, so we have to pay fee's to use them

we even had to pay to use the term "sydney olympics" to a lawyer in chigago who worked for Oprah as he registered it before we where allowed too by ICAN and as cases from australia aint heard in the US except if we go there thers little many companies here can do

the US treats the taliban better in many ways

and try being a Aussie getting a visa

you have a easier time if your from somailia
but hey thats politics and business

[AL MOUNT]

Jack,

Many Americans forget that there was a contiegent of Aussies

in Vietnam helping us fight those little buggars.

I remind people of that every chance I get...


May the Meat ants devour everyone of yer Cane Toad tadpoles.....

[jack404]

Al i'da been in the main force myself if i was a tad older then

did not get to "play" until '74

but hey this aint the US people, we know ( or most do)

its business's and such

like George W and our "Free trade" deal

we cant send you meat or anythiung really but US companies can come here grow thier own send it to the US as Australian Prime and then go broke every few years and not pay taxes here but clain tax credits in the US

they are ripping you folks off as much as they rip us off here

we have oil and gas here

just we have to sell it to the US wholesale then buy it back retail

free trade allright free for george and his mates

they sit back laughing while 30 Million of thier own get put out of work and pay higher gas prices while the actual wholesale is going down via free trade just the middle men margins get bigger every year and we know who the middle man are

one day we'll get parity

until then theres a whole bunch of aussie still happy to host your visiting sailors and marines

i'm one and theres plenty of others

we remember the pacific in 43 44 and 45

so dont stress about the VN or business issues

we signed on for the long haul with the US people

not big business or politicians

cheers

jack

[Alpo]

"did not originate in America"? Who in the world would think this song is American?

A "swagman" by a "billabong", waiting for his "billie" to boil, carrying a "tucker bag", putting a "jumpbuck" in it, and being caught by the "stockman"? Oh yeah, those are all American terms. First time I heard that song, I had to get out a dictionary to figger out what they were talking about.

[JLA]

i watched a thing on the travel channel once about the ever growing population of roos in the land down under and something about changing the theme of their theme from waltzing to roasting... mmmmm, roo burgers

[Old Grump]

Don't know much about Australia but I always wanted to see Ayers Rock. Kangaroo meat is good on pizza and I got drunk in Honk Kong during a break from the party in South East Asia with an Irish merchant marine and an Australian sailor from the HMAS Hobart. Their sense of humor and capacity for Guinness was impressive and their hospitality were much appreciated at the time. I just wish I remembered the last half of the evening.

[jack404]

well if any of you get down this way i have 5 acres in Soujtn Australia that backs onto 1.5 Million acres of good hunting land thers a shack and water and a wood stove

here the veiw to the south over with Adelaide city in the distance



you all most welcome anytime

cheers

jack

[Lee C.]

Jack if you ever get the time to put up some more pictures of Australia. I sure would like to see them. My dad told me a long time ago I should go there as it was a hunters paradise. He fought in australia in WWII in the army he really liked it over there. Life is way to dam short you know it.

[jack404]

Lee, on the way

i've pic's of my last "walkabout" with some aboridginal mates

cheers jack

[Trouble 45-70]

Love the song and melody.

I have heard some rousing versions and melancholy versions in the movies. Simply beautiful no mater how it is presented. Here Dixie works the same way.

[Maximilian II]

A shack, water, and a wood stove.
A good man can bring anything else that he needs on his back and shoulders. Assuming the "guv'mint" lets him.
I want to go "there" for a while, sometime.
Even though I grew up in something like it. Different critters, you see.

Jack, I'd like to see the Aboriginals too. I know from (uncomfortable) personal experience that the "Abo's" aren't always looked upon with admiration by the typical Australian "Whitefella." I ain't got that problem. Those guys know good stuff.

[jack404]

posted here Max

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=75087

[Maximilian II]

Thanks!

[The_Rifleman]

When I first learned the song in school we were told it was an Australian song.

[Maximilian II]

I hate it when my nation makes me feel ashamed. I am not easily given to hate and do not react well to shame. I call that an attribute.
I also find it a motivator.

[jack404]

whats the feel shame about ?

thers scum bags everywhere that take advantage where they can , it would be nice if we could fix these things easily but with your laws the way they are i'd worry about my own butt ( if it was a US butt) see rooters post at
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=75145

[Maximilian II]

Jack, I AM worrying about my own butt!
If "They" will do it to our allies "They" will do it to US! Why? We voted them in, therefore we must approve of what they do. Period. A simple assumption of superiority due to a popularity contest known as the "vote."
Including the well meaning yet misguided SOB's that voted "them" in.

Crap I think I just made another "list." Oh well, add it to the collection.

[Hurryin' Hoosier]

I, for one, do not recall having ever heard that "Waltzing Matilda" was, in any way, an "American" song.

[jondar]

All I know about it is that it made a beautiful sound track for the old movie "On the Beach", from the novel by Nevil Shute. About Australia in the fictional nuclear holocaust. Great movie. I recorded it just for the sound track. I've never heard the song ever referred to as anything but Australian.

[17thfabn]

Originally Posted by Maximilian II

I hate it when my nation makes me feel ashamed. I am not easily given to hate and do not react well to shame. I call that an attribute.
I also find it a motivator.

I'm not ashamed of out nation, but it does make me mad the way some lawyers want to get their hand in every ones pockets.

[Hurryin' Hoosier]

Originally Posted by jondar

All I know about it is that it made a beautiful sound track for the old movie "On the Beach", from the novel by Nevil Shute. About Australia in the fictional nuclear holocaust. Great movie. I recorded it just for the sound track. I've never heard the song ever referred to as anything but Australian.

"On the Beach" is one of the first things I think of when I hear it, too. Great movie, and very poignant. (And I think I'll always have the hots for Ava Gardner!)

[CANNONBALL MCCOY]

i have known the song was Aussie since the 3rd grade. You Aussies are right about us tho we want to take credit for everything or be the best at everything. I would love to leave the U.S. and become an Aussie. Cheers Mates.